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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:32 AM
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SurveyUSA: * 8/16 approval rating at 41%
http://www.surveyusa.com/50StatePOTUS0805.htm

The state by state breakdown is even more devastating: Bush is above 50% in 7 states, tied in 2. Ohio is 37% approve, 63% disapprove...thanks a lot for getting smart 9 months too late, folks.

Sorted by state (if difficult to read, click on to link above). I am proud of my buddies in little Rhodie! I promise, Massa-BLUE-setts (#49) will try harder!

# State '04 ECV Approve Disapprove Approval
1 Idaho Bush 59% 36% 23%
2 Wyoming Bush 58% 38% 20%
3 Utah Bush 57% 38% 19%
4 Nebraska Bush 55% 42% 13%
5 Texas Bush 54% 43% 11%
6 Alabama Bush 52% 45% 7%
7 North Dakota Bush 51% 45% 6%
8 Montana Bush 50% 45% 5%
9 Oklahoma Bush 50% 46% 4%
10 Mississippi Bush 49% 47% 2%
11 Louisiana Bush 48% 48% 0%
11 North Carolina Bush 47% 47% 0%
13 Indiana Bush 48% 49% -1%
14 Alaska Bush 46% 49% -3%
15 Georgia Bush 47% 51% -4%
15 Kansas Bush 46% 50% -4%
17 Hawaii Kerry 43% 49% -6%
17 South Carolina Bush 45% 51% -6%
17 West Virginia Bush 45% 51% -6%
20 Arizona Bush 45% 52% -7%
20 South Dakota Bush 45% 52% -7%
22 Colorado Bush 45% 53% -8%
23 Florida Bush 44% 53% -9%
23 Tennessee Bush 43% 52% -9%
25 Virginia Bush 42% 52% -10%
26 Kentucky Bush 42% 53% -11%
27 Iowa Bush 42% 55% -13%
27 New Hampshire Kerry 42% 55% -13%
29 Wisconsin Kerry 41% 55% -14%
30 New Mexico Bush 41% 56% -15%
30 Oregon Kerry 41% 56% -15%
32 Arkansas Bush 40% 56% -16%
32 Pennsylvania Kerry 40% 56% -16%
34 Nevada Bush 40% 57% -17%
34 Washington Kerry 40% 57% -17%
36 Maine Kerry 40% 58% -18%
37 Illinois Kerry 38% 57% -19%
38 Michigan Kerry 38% 58% -20%
38 Minnesota Kerry 39% 59% -20%
38 Missouri Bush 38% 58% -20%
41 Ohio Bush 37% 60% -23%
42 New Jersey Kerry 35% 61% -26%
43 Maryland Kerry 34% 62% -28%
43 New York Kerry 34% 62% -28%
45 Connecticut Kerry 33% 62% -29%
46 California Kerry 32% 62% -30%
47 Vermont Kerry 33% 63% -30%
48 Delaware Kerry 32% 64% -32%
49 Massachusetts Kerry 32% 64% -32%
50 Rhode Island Kerry 29% 68% -39%
Weighted Average 41% 55% -14%

('Weighted Average' means each state is weighted proportionally to its share of USA population. For example,
California, the most populated state, is given 71 times the weight of WY the least populated state, in a weighted avg.)
Unweighted Average 43% 53% -10%  
('Unweighted Average' means each state is given equal weight; population density is not taken into account).
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:35 AM
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1. Ohio WAS smart! The election was DIEBOLD'D!
But I understand the frustration.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:46 AM
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10. Smirk's disapproval rating is higher in Ohio than in any other Bush state!
41 Ohio Bush 37% 60% -23%

Only nine other states disapprove more, and many states disapproving LESS are Kerry/blue states. (Tell me again how Smirk got the most votes in Ohio, please.)
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:13 PM
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27. How obvious is this? Yet our democratic leaders...
are not SCREAMING for a paper trail?

We are FUCKED!
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:37 AM
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2. BTW, so was Missouri!
My county's clerk "lost" two large boxes of votes and Bush won the county by a mere 178 votes out of over 75k voters.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:41 AM
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4. What county was that?
Greene?
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:20 PM
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19. Boone. n/t
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:18 PM
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29. The home of the flagship campus of the University of Missouri?
I wonder of those missing boxes were from certain precincts in Columbia, which I assume would be more inclined to go for Kerry than the rest of the county.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:49 PM
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30. I'm not sure who won what precinct.... but losing Kerry votes wouldn't....
surprise me in the least.
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:27 PM
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20. As a native Missourian, I was extremely disappointed in
Kerry's advisers decision to throw in the towel regarding the Show-Me-State. Had we persisted they might not have been able to steal it.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:38 AM
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3. He's not above 60 in any of them.
:wow:
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:42 AM
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5. This is refreshing
California (My home state, obviously) is the 5th most Democratic state in the country, that makes me smile.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:43 AM
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6. Who Wants To Bet That Gallup's Next Poll Has Bush Going Up A Point Or Two?
I know this poll isn't Gallup, but Gallup's MO is to buck the trend when it's really bad for Chimpy.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:43 AM
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7. I'm confused. Why is Kerry listed under Bush in some of these states?
I couldn't find an explanation. Maybe I didn't look hard enough, but it makes no sense to have Kerry in there in some states and not others. Besides, even though some of us feel he won the election why is he included in Bush poll numbers. :shrug:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:16 PM
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17. I think the table is just showing for whom (Kerry or Bush) the state's
electoral votes went in 2004, so that you can compare them with today's poll numbers for Bush.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:09 PM
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26. Ahhh....thanks! n/t
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:44 AM
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8. What's wrong with Idaho?
Is it filled with White Supremicists? Religious nuts? Inbreds?

Does eating too many potatoes destroy brain cells?
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:11 PM
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32. It is home to Aryan Nations
and to lots of people who still think they're living in the Wild West
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:44 AM
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9. North Carolina, Indiana, Georgia, SOUTH CAROLINA and W. Virginia?
all below 50% and a substantial, sometimes even larger unfavorable view of the pres?

All I can say is about time and I hope it is not too late.

With numbers like these, it can only get worse.

His Man-Date has faded from the lexicon of WH spinmeisters.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:46 AM
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11. and they dont even include dc~ we would beat even rhode island
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 11:47 AM by faithnotgreed
with the disapproval numbers

but thank you rhode island
you serve us well
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:19 PM
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18. Don't forget DC!
As we remember Poland!
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:33 PM
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21. thats right paine - and equally important i would say
wouldnt you

sheesh
no respect whatsoever
im surprised they even let us vote at all
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:49 PM
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23. DC and Massachusetts stood together in '72
:hug:
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:56 PM
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25. heres to massachusetts.... friends to the end eh
you never know when that will hit so im proud to call massachusetts our friend
we need all of them we can get
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:53 AM
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12. He's no longer worth wasting our time on....
We need to go after the Republican Party. Bring the Repub Senate and Congress down to his levels. That should be our goal.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:02 PM
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13. "The war with * is over"
Analagous to Frank Rich's column in the NYTimes Sunday:

Someone Tell the President the War Is Over

By FRANK RICH
Published: August 14, 2005
LIKE the Japanese soldier marooned on an island for years after V-J Day, President Bush may be the last person in the country to learn that for Americans, if not Iraqis, the war in Iraq is over. "We will stay the course," he insistently tells us from his Texas ranch. What do you mean we, white man?

A president can't stay the course when his own citizens (let alone his own allies) won't stay with him. The approval rate for Mr. Bush's handling of Iraq plunged to 34 percent in last weekend's Newsweek poll - a match for the 32 percent that approved L.B.J.'s handling of Vietnam in early March 1968. (The two presidents' overall approval ratings have also converged: 41 percent for Johnson then, 42 percent for Bush now.) On March 31, 1968, as L.B.J.'s ratings plummeted further, he announced he wouldn't seek re-election, commencing our long extrication from that quagmire.
........
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/14/opinion/14rich.html?n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fColumnists%2fFrank%20Rich

Ya gotta' register to read. The thesis is in the headline, though.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:05 PM
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14. Count up the Electoral Votes...
Even Giving the Tie to Bush (Montana & Oklahoma), the vote count stands as

Bush 73
Kerry 500
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:12 PM
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15. Missouri
Great to know my fellow citizens In Missouri are waking up here. Of
course we are losing soldiers In iraq from here,and Blunt Is hurting
Republicans since taking office. Now I sure hope Clare Mckasill runs
for the senate so Talent can be one of the first unemployed Republicans.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:12 PM
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16. and factoring theft and Diabolical Diabolds
Bush 303
Kerry 270
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:34 PM
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22. The electoral votes made me happy until I saw your take ...
which is sad and probably true. :cry:

I believe it happened in 2000 in FL, in 2002 in GA, & in 2004 in OH.

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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:55 PM
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24. To be fair, they didn't report an approval number for Sen. Kerry
or even ask if the respondents had voted for a presidential candidate in 2004 and would vote for Kerry this time around. It's not that kind of poll.

I'm not saying it couldn't possibly pan out that way, but we can't draw that conclusion from this data. I mean, look at some of the states you'd be allocating to the Senator from Massachussetts. Mississippi votes for Sen. Kerry? Not bloody likely. Georgia, the state that vote in a governor whose main platform was putting the Confederate naval jack back on the state flag? Indiana, a state that hasn't voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since... damn, since I don't know when, did they vote for FDR back in the '30s? Kansas, where evolution is getting edged out of the science classes?

I guess the upshot of this is, just because the people in "red states" disapprove of W doesn't mean they'll vote for a Democratic candidate or even that they would have done so in 2004 if they felt the same way then that they do now. The GOP is on shakey footing in a lot of these places, yes, but the Democrats haven't shown proficiency in taking advantage of the situation -- a desire to do so, yes; but not the kind of ruthless efficiency that we could expect from the republicans in inverse circumstances.
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RaulGroom Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:17 PM
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28. Ummm, something funny about this list
Missouri and Ohio are way out of whack. Almost makes you wonder if, maybe, somehow.... Nah, to think that I would have to be some crazy conspiracy guy. And as we all know I'm a serious-minded fellow. People in Ohio and Missouri must just be particularly fickle. Yeah, that's it. Particularly fickle.

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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:53 PM
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31. Damn - I knew the election was a year too early
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 02:00 PM by RamboLiberal
I predicted this when I called in to a radio show last year. He's 50% or above in only 9 Red States.

Alabama, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Wyoming. Even "What's the Matter with Kansas" has woke up and is spitting out the koolaid.

Wonder how many Repukes will distance themselves from him next year when running for reelection?
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