It's frightening to finally see how deep the rabbit hole goes isn't it?

[VIHMH5L50P]

“…here we have the biggest story in US history. Treason was perpetrated on this country by the White House…”
- Citizen Spook, 8/16/05 http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/

Wow, he didn’t break the story that is way under the radar in the internet but is amazingly being totally blacked out by the MSM, though he independently verified some of it’s parts as being factual and not rumour, and helped us navigate through the complex legalities and disinformation.

IMHO this IS the biggest story in U.S. history. It may be a bit hard to decipher if you don't go back to his preceding articles in this series (good reads and definitely worth it).

He shows what the special prosecutor has is a lot worse for Bush and co than anyone imagines. As we speak Bush and co are sweating bullets hoping we don’t find out and trying to figure out a way to put a stop to all the forces set in motion, and the MSM is helping them try to make sure we don’t find out (good doggie, total compliance folks!)

And who is this masked man from Chicago who calls himself “Citizen Spook”? He says he is a retired attorney writing anonymously (he wants to stay alive I think). He sure writes well and is quotable. Some examples:

“…This is war people. There are no civilians in an information war. You're either for the truth and the law, or your against it…”

“…Ever since this thing hit the news with gusto only equalled by Monica's dress, we have seen, heard and been witness to a main stream media and main stream blogosphere feeding frenzy of pundits politically analyzing the irrelevant IIPA. What a time they were having until Citizen Spook came along and outed their ruse…”

“…So why hasn't the main stream media and most of the blogosphere picked up on this story? BECAUSE THERE'S A MEDIA BLACKOUT IN PROGRESS I submit that you may begin to "out" everybody in the media and blogosphere based upon their decision to cover 18 USC 794 or not to cover it…”

“…It's frightening to finally see how deep the rabbit hole goes isn't it. This information, this law, this US Code, is not speculation or theory. This is the law and it's rock solid. Where is the press now? Where is the blogosphere? Where is the feeding frenzy? We had it for the IIPA, but for our very own US Code, it's gone, voila.

”…You knew the info is being controlled, but now you know that it's infected many of your favorite blogs and so called liberal journalists. We've given them a story here at Citizen Spook. Why aren't they running with it?...”

"...What are you going to do about it America? Make some noise, make a lot of noise. If you don't, you have nothing to complain about when they survive this and thereafter bring you tyranny beyond your vision..."

And finally at the end: “…coming soon: Citizen Spook on "Treasongate Deciphered", this will blow your mind…” (after the above that’s saying a lot!)

Here’s his whole latest article:
http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/
TUESDAY, AUGUST 16, 2005
TREASONGATE: Total Media BLACK OUT of 18 USC 794, Federal Espionage Statute
In my two part series, TREASONGATE: The Controlling Law,
Part 1 Part 2 I discussed the fact that the Intelligence Identities Protection Act is virtually irrelevant as to the Valerie Plame CIA leak investigation. I focussed on the applicability to this fact pattern of 18 USC 793 and 794, the espionage statutes of the United States Code.

Let's go back now, back to the beginning of this affair. Ever since this thing hit the news with gusto only equalled by Monica's dress, we have seen, heard and been witness to a main stream media and main stream blogosphere feeding frenzy of pundits politically analyzing the irrelevant IIPA. What a time they were having until Citizen Spook came along and outed their ruse.

And what timing that the AIPAC indictments should come out a few days after Citizen Spook published this anaylsis, (see TREASONGATE: The Controlling Law, Part 2: THE DEATH PENALTY, 18 USC 794 and the shift from GWOT to GSAVE ). Those indictments were based on 18 USC 793.

But more interesting and more juicy for the media is the simple application of 18 USC 794(b) which provided for the death penalty or life in prison for perpetraitors of espionage "in time of war".

We discussed the diplomatic policy shift from GWOT, global war on terrorism, to GSAVE, global struggle against violent extremism, and how that shift may be evidence of the Bush admin having worries about prosectuion under the controlling espionage laws.

We discussed that 794(b) is met under this fact pattern of the Plame affair since it only requires that the information communicated by the perp be "related to the public defense" and that the perp must intend for that info to be communicated to the "enemy". We distinguised between the term "enemy" and the term "foreign nation" because "enemy" is much broader and does include "the terrorists".

We also discussed that federal case law has held that giving the relevant info to the press is no different than giving it directly to a spy for purposes of the intent requirement of that law.

So why hasn't the main stream media and most of the blogosphere picked up on this story?

BECAUSE THERE'S A MEDIA BLACKOUT IN PROGRESS

I submit that you may begin to "out" everybody in the media and blogosphere based upon their decision to cover 18 USC 794 or not to cover it.

Those who don't cover it, are knowingly or unknowingly, aiding and abetting treason. Coverage of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act was exhaustive, from CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, the liberal blogs, the conservative blogs, etc. It was everywhere as the debate raged on about what was classified and who knew what at what time.

Crapola was fed to the masses. The IIPA is not the espionage act and does not lead to treason convictions. C'mon people, we have a little body of law which is called

THE UNITED STATES CODE!

Let's use it.

Many small web blogs did cover my report on 18 USC 794, and for that, we the people, owe them a debt of gratitude. The only main stream alternative web site which covered my report on 18 USC 794 and the death penalty was Jeff Rense. Rense had an entire section based upon TREASONGATE, which linked to four of my reports. That section has now been removed at rense.com. I dont know why, but I've written Jeff and asked him if there was a problem.

But here we have the biggest story in US history. Treason was perpetrated on this country by the White House. We know the memo listed Plame's ID as "secret" and that classification is prima facia proof of how important it was to national security. She was working on WMD. All of the requirements of 18 USC 794(b) have been met with much more convincing power than under the IIPA, so why has our very own United States Code been ignored.
It's frightening to finally see how deep the rabbit hole goes isn't it.
This information, this law, this US Code, is not speculation or theory. This is the law and it's rock solid.
Where is the press now?
Where is the blogosphere?
Where is the feeding frenzy?
We had it for the IIPA, but for our very own US Code, it's gone, voila.

You knew the info is being controlled, but now you know that it's infected many of your favorite blogs and so called liberal journalists. We've given them a story here at Citizen Spook. Why aren't they running with it?

It's a simple Code, much easier to explain to the people than the IIPA, but it's not as easy to spin and argue about. It's clear, the White House is guilty as sin under 18 USC 794 (and 793) and the penalty is frightening to them.

Take over the blogs.
Take over the comments.
Write letters to the editor.

Where are the big time liberal pundits who are supposed to be fighting against this administration?
Where is the Conyers Blog?
Where is Raw Story?
Where is The Brad Blog?
Where is Daily Kos?
Where is The Huffington Post?
Where is Air America Radio?
Yes, the rabbit hole is deep, but it ends right here.
If the same amount of energy that went into the analysis of the IIPA was applied to 18 USC 794, the White House would be in serious trouble and would be forced to change their plans. They wouldn't have the same time they have now, time to create intricate diversions, time to commit more treason.

America, you have the means to fight this information war and you have the means to demand the media step up and tell the people what laws have been broken. And in doing this you can make them squirm, and you can force their hand and make them act with less time to plan. By exposing the truth, you force them to move faster, to rush their plans and in doing that they are more prone to make a mistake.

Nobody does anything as thorough when they are rushing, compared to when they have time to plot. By ignoring discussion about 18 USC 794 and the death penalty or life in prison, the main stream media and blogosphere are aiding and abetting the enemy by giving it time and resources to plot further treason.

The IIPA discussion was a calculated ruse designed to distract you from the real controlling law, 18 USC 793 and 794.

What are you going to do about it America?

Make some noise, make a lot of noise. If you don't, you have nothing to complain about when they survive this and thereafter bring you tyranny beyond your vision.

What doesn't kill them (by this I mean the law) makes them stronger. They destroyed a network of USA intelligence operations, operations that must have been getting close to uncovering treason worse than the treason they committed by outing Plame and Brewster Jennings et als.

This is war people. There are no civilians in an information war. You're either for the truth and the law, or your against it.

by Citizen Spook

PLEASE REPOST and LINK
coming soon: Citizen Spook on "Treasongate Deciphered", this will blow your mind.

[Klimmer]

1. I've also been enjoying reading Citizenspook and learning . . .

He absolutely seems to know the law. I hope he is right about many things. I like his arguement about the power of "We the People." We are the 4th branch of government, and we need to exercise our authority in a legal and lawful manner.

We need to send these Neo-con bastards and the BCF/BFEE to prison and throw away the key.
(I don't believe in the death penalty. Life and death, that's for God to decide.)

[AlwaysDemocrat]

2. There is a media blackout on this issue

I keep wondering "What are they hiding" and "What have they done to our country?". It keeps me awake at night...

[VIHMH5L50P]

3. I'm just amazed how they manage to block all of it out

I thought we had lots of progressive press even in parts of the bigger MSM here or there, I mean at least dozens of pockets of truth out there, even in many big city newspapers. Apparently not, not even small town papers. Nobody mentions this story. This is a big country.

[wli]

4. the control is near-total... I suspect many "liberal" sites are planted

DU doesn't seem to be, at first anyway...

[VIHMH5L50P]

5. Without naming names I will say this...

There is no better way of controlling public opinion than by infiltrating the disseminators of information by talking their language really well, by pretending to be their very protector (on issues that don't matter).

And when it does matter, ridicule the truth by focusing on some aspect of it that is insignificant and blowing it out of proportion, then steering debate away from it.

Does this cost a lot of money? Yeah but they're not paying for it, we are. Our taxes fund a whole army of internet and media censors, a common stopover assignment in intelligence agencies.

The active principle at work is the one the Knight's Templars used to take over the Catholic Church around the time of the Crusades.

By swearing a fanatical devotion to becoming it's protectors, and doing it over a long time, they became the most trusted group, were gladly let in the doors of the Church, and once in it and with the power their function gave them, gained control over it.

What is it they say about history repeating itself?

[wli]

7. any chance of a private email discussion?

pgp/pgp -encrypted only. Thanks.

[VIHMH5L50P]

10. Sure

Let me get into my pgp program and review it, i never had a chance to use it. Will update this message soon.

[VIHMH5L50P]

16. if you're still there for an email

Sorry I took so long. One of my email addresses is: [e-mail]

Send me an email with your public pgp key, and I will respond with an encrypted email with my public key, then we can encrypt/decrypt email. Does this sound right? I'm looking forward to be finally using pgp.

I'm interested in your input.

[wli]

18. sent, thanks

[VIHMH5L50P]

22. got it, sent back reply

hope it works, playing around with the keys I think I got the hang of it.

[yodermon]

9. You think DU doesn't have infiltrators?

Step on over into the 9-11 forum, and just take yourself a look-see.

[VIHMH5L50P]

12. I didn't say one way or the other

though because it is so big that would not surprise me, in fact it would surprise me if it wasn't used as a tool by some, though to what extent I don't know. I will check the 911 forum, I've not seen it before. Not sure which view you suggest is present there.

[yodermon]

13. Here is the link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=125

As for who may be an "infiltrator" I won't say publically.

[gasperc]

42. Fuck spook, he links Wilson, Bush and Plame working together

go to the web link and read for yourself. and you won't find the relevant statue anywhere on the site.

this sounds like bullshit

<snip>
"Joe Wilson is in cahoots with the Bush Administration along with David
Corn, Bob Novak and Valerie Plame Wilson, a cast of spooks who have
only just been outed with the writing of this article. They've
carefully scripted this entire affair to shield themselves from
prosecution for monolithic treasons against US citizens and our
military. Treasongate, Rovegate, Leakgate, whatever you want to call
it, is, in reality, an intricate version of hide and seek where the
"perpetraitors" have been controlling both sides of the game."

[Gay Green]

6. But what appears to be a media blackout

Could really be the eye of the perfect storm as the MSM keeps eyes on the vigil on Prairie Chapel Road, thus distracting * & Co. from both their plots to nuke Iran and to shut up Fitzgerald.

If this is true, come September, the BA2 with -w- in tow will traverse the OTHER eyewall of the storm and encounter the fiercest winds they've ever encountered yet. And could be blown away as a result.

[Burried News]

8. No question they are blocking it out. It is troubling OLD news.

But I think the dailykos alone got 3.8 million hits last week. The media is whistling in the dark. The test will be the vigils and demonstrations. If they are very large without media coverage the guys holding shares of ABC et.al. will be asking serious questions and proposing early retirement for Michael Eisner.

[suziedemocrat]

11. This is over my head - anyone have the Readers Digest version?

Is he saying all the pundits are talking about the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, when they should be talking about 18 USC 794(b)? And they are doing this because they know the Valerie Plume leak does not actually violate the IIPA, but it does violate 18 USC 794(b) - which carries the death penalty? Is he saying the IIPA is a red herring or FUD?

(FUD - Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt, a sales or marketing strategy of disseminating negative but vague or inaccurate information on a competitor's product. The term originated to describe misinformation tactics in the computer software industry and has since been used more broadly.)

It would be so ironic if Bush faced the death penalty after so many were executed in Texas when he was Governor.

[VIHMH5L50P]

15. You've got it totally right.

The relevant governing law in this matter (is about Bush), and based on what sources say persons who've provided evidence to the grand jury say Fitzgerald is pursuing, is about several key statutes of the USC including in areas concerning treason, which if guilt is proven on, calls for a maximum penalty of death.

Needless to say no President would be charged with treason lightly and unless the evidence was thoroughly checked and solid, so the fact it is even being discussed tends to indicate there is something to it. One more thing on this, I think if a President is guilty of such a an unspeakable thing, there is no doubt a death penalty would be applied.

And Fitzgerald's investigation is NOT about applying the IIPA which is vaguely written, is hard to enforce anyway, which is the falsehood the press keeps repeating.

But under the grand jury rules Fitzgerald is not free to speak about these matters until indictments are issued, so he cannot admit or deny the stories about the IIPA.

Incidentally Fitzgerald in effect has no boss, reports to nobody, can get unlimited budget, and can investigate anything he wants without getting the Attorney General's approval (like used to be the case).

In the beginning he was given tremendous and unlimited irrevocable legal authority to go wherever the facts led based on his own best judgment, when he started the investigation, has equal status to the Attorney General in this case only, so he reports to nobody but the President (but since Bush is the one being investigated he cannot supervise or fire him, or even look at what he is doing, as it would form a legal conflict of interest).

It's a big screw-up that Bush's people got him in thanks to his own public insistence that the investigation be set up totally right, but they are between a rock and a hard place. It must have never occurred to them that Fitzgerald would do his job right.

And it is being reported that the investigation has branched out greatly, way beyond the Valerie Plame issue, which is huge on it's own. It isn't about just Bush any longer, but about many many more BIG names, practically a layer of the highest in government, including the other branches of it.

Even two justices of the SC are reported
http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/S_284_S/Overthrow%20series/bush.htm
to be implicated in efforts to illegally pressure other justices in the 2k election decision (Scalia and Renquist), all from evidence trails and witnesses somehow originating from the Plame scandal. Profiteering on 911 based on alleged foreknowledge, and enrichment from the war in the M.E. entered into under fraudulent reasons, are said to be part of the most serious treason charges.

That's why Citizenspook says it's the biggest story in U.S. history,and that nobody knows it is because of a total media blackout which I had no idea was even possible, not to that extent.

Yet much of the press knows all this (like Judith Miller) and is reporting only about the IIPA, an utter falsehood, and conveniently serves to totally protect Bush.

If the story on Bush wasn't as big as it is, just the fact the press is covering this all up so efficiently is so incriminating for the press, it would itself deserve to be the biggest story in most of our lives.

Think of the implications, it would literally mean there is proof there no free press at all, that the government controls it fully, and that it is not a (at least relatively) free country as we all thought; just for starters. It's mind-boggling.

But I encourage you to look at Citizenspook's article from about two weeks ago
http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005/08/treasongate-controlling-law-part-2.html
on your question for the detailed legal aspects.

[suziedemocrat]

29. WOW!! Thanks I'll read it!

I"ve had my hopes up so many times before that all the Bush uginess would be exposed (election fraud, gannongate) only to watch the stories die before they ever gain traction. It's very hard to keep getting my hopes up. But hopefully this time is different!!

Fitzgerald sounds like an Irish name - and some Irish can be fearless when they think they are doing the right thing.

[LibertyorDeath]

14. Duer dbeach pointed me to Citizen Spook a while back

The MSM is totally complicit in all of this

The foundation for this has been put in place

"thereafter bring you tyranny beyond your vision..."

Welcome VIHMH5L50P you appreciate CS you may like this also

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/


http://p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10

From one of the best DUers around Octafish

Know Your Bush Family Evil Empire

http://knowyourbfee.blogspot.com/2005/06/know-your-bfee-master-log.html

[Beam Me Up]

17. Either there is the rule of law or there is not.

Our nation has been hijacked by a pack of criminals. Of course corruption is not anything new but the scope of what is taking place right now is, indeed, breathtaking. The question is, can the rule of law be brought to bear against these hijackers? This is WAY beyond Watergate. This is right up there with what might have happened had there been a REAL investigation into the assassination of JFK or had there been a REAL investigation into the events that led up to and actualized 9/11. If I'm getting this right, what we are up against here is A DEFINING MOMENT IN HISTORY. Both the aforementioned assassination and so called 'terrorist' event WERE defining moments for our nation. Both of them were brought about, I believe, by the same unseen hand wiggling the fingers within the glove of the national security state.

And so, here we are. And, since the press is not only NOT going to be of help but is ACTUALLY WORKING AGAINST US, the question is, can WE get enough people informed about the significance of this to FORCE the DOJ and the criminal courts to do what they are there to do: INFORCE THE FUCKING LAW!

MURDER IS ILLEGAL. TREASON IS ILLEGAL. INFORCE HE FUCKING LAW--may the heavens fall!

[Karenina]

41. The "rule of law"

has been subjected to quite a thrashing of late... :kick:

[dbeach]

19. late for this party..Oh well

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4369340

CS ROCKS

accordin to him Fitz CANNOT be removed from case and this law is our law to protect the citizens from the tyranny

CS has blog with few comments..he is low key dude BUT wants his stuff out there


Free boogey boarding lessons if bush/cheny get indicted!!

MM devours loosh..
stay focued . eyes on the prize.

if bush gets caught or if the big players in royalty say enough ..his demise will be faster than beach sand from
Hurricaine Irene . BIG IF!!

[Stand and Fight]

20. Have to kick this so I can bookmark and read tomorrow. n/t

[barbaraann]

21. Drat!

Does this mean that I have to make another donation to DU this cycle because it is one of the few places the truth about this can be found? :o

[VIHMH5L50P]

23. If this thread finds its way into any real media out there

Then it will be proof that DU "is one of the few places the truth about this can be found" and I will personally make a donation and urge others to do the same.

So far this truth is here, at least it appears to be, but I always get suspicious when such an explosive topic should generate such few comments.

And I find myself asking, "can any magic buttons be pressed making this thread visible to only a select few including myself to reassure me all is ok?" (that was my paranoid side doing the asking, but it's been right before so I don't automatically reject it)

[barbaraann]

24. It's on the "Greatest" list.

Let's hope there are ripples from the pebble.

[NoFederales]

39. Many of us are highly suspicious regarding the lack of "light" being shed

on this topic. Some of our silence may be from fearful exposure for being different, some, perhaps, for lack of hope that anything meaningful can (or will) be done. The mental damage of propaganda being waged on us is profoundly disturbing, which is why the use of propaganda is such a horrid act. The art of persuasion as practised by the unscrupulous should be a death penalty offense. The results of such unscrupulous damage is longlasting, its roots so seemingly archetypical as to be unassailable; it changes the victim, perhaps rendering rationality as inaccessible while strengthening the emotional components that would have us fearful and in flight or fight mode till we are exhausted and ineffectual.

Is this the state that many Americans are in? I don't know. It takes a strong personality to resist powerful persuasion, and I think 100% immunity is impossible because we are biologically "wired" to our "community" and sense of being is wrapped up with our fellow beings. Is bashing a "freeper" useful in this context? is it time wasted on distraction?

I am fearful for the longterm fallout AFTER these Bushit assholes are gone; the damage they have wrought has to be carefully handled so that "lay explanations" can permeate the population. Our citizens are not fundamentally stupid--many have been deceived and will need careful help in understanding what has happened to them if the truth, or portions thereof, is ever revealed. Bill Moyers has likened our current events as similar to that turmoil of the 1850's; violent conflict with our neighbors is something that must be avoided and if we insist on hammering our opposition with blanket curses, perhaps we will deserve the civil war again.

The Bush cabal is a cancer. It cannot be lived with, it must be excised. How do we do this without killing the patient?

NoFederales

[VIHMH5L50P]

40. EXCELLENT PHILOSOPHICAL AND INCISIVE POST!

Quoting: "...The art of persuasion as practised by the unscrupulous ..." and "...the results of such unscrupulous damage is longlasting, its roots so seemingly archetypical as to be unassailable; it changes the victim, perhaps rendering rationality as inaccessible while strengthening the emotional components that would have us fearful and in flight or fight mode till we are exhausted and ineffectual..." WOW! This is not just deep but it is accurate.

I know because I see the same thing. This "art of persuasion" is applied to totally confuse us so we collectively in essence wind up as oblivious to reality as schitzophrenics are (though in a milder different way, but still just as seriously departed from reality), in order to turn us into helpless basket cases in order to rule us like sheep, and yes that is a crime against humanity whether anybody enforces it or not because it is done deliberately and passed down in the family traditions of the ruling elite.

Another point: "perhaps rendering rationality as inaccessible while strengthening the emotional components that would have us fearful." Hits the nail on the head.

We all remember as children fear would come to us automatically when we thought we were lost, and that is a principle in human nature at play, in being so artfully deceived as we are (which is no accident), we are lost all the time, and afraid.

And not coincidentally, fear also paralyzes us. In fact, fear is the chains that enslave us even though we live in our own homes and we don't know we're enslaved (but still are). Deceit is what puts the chains around our wrists and ankles, and we then always go where we are told though we often come to believe it was our own idea.

Artful deceit has always been the tool of the ruling class to enslave us! It is consciously done and organized, and we succumb to it collectively generation after generation, millenea after millenea.

The few of us who get glimpses of this reality are traumatized even more from seeing how intense and all-pervasive the evil of that conniving deceit is, and since we're a minority, we get labeled as weirdo's even by those on our side who don't see what we see.

But all of us even the greatly deceived, which is the vast majority of us, can clearly sense that much is wrong around us, and in that we are not deceived.

And that is why we come to DU or go to some bar, we're going around on the verge of insanity from instinctive rage and some of us begin to curse irrationally, we all react in our own way, and it's not just us in DU but most of America.

We're not angry at just trivial things, no, these are major life and death things, it's like they declare war on every one of us at birth, as they are constantly creating and enforcing this anti-human environment that is either killing us young, torturing us in a slow death, and raping us just about every day we do live.

"...Our citizens are not fundamentally stupid--many have been deceived..." Exactly, that is the problem. People are not stupid but act stupid because they are fed a diet of deceit all their lives and are fat with pot bellies of it. This is what deception does.

I don't agree on all your points. When you state that "violent conflict with our neighbors is something that must be avoided and if we insist on hammering our opposition with blanket curses, perhaps we will deserve the civil war again."

I love peace too, probably as much as you, but war is often thrust on us, like a big forest fire that suddenly shows up on the horizon. I'm talking about the inevitable civil war that you seem to imply we will deserve if we don't change things. You're right, we will deserve it.

We will deserve it in a sense, because we in our wimpy mental state failed to stop the causes of it as they built up for so long, yet we couldn't easily stop them because we were victims too, manipulated into fear and servitude with sophisticated tools we didn't know about.

War is like a natural force, like a tsunami, you and I may not like it and wish we could stop it, but when it comes all we can do is run like hell and hope you make it up a hill before the water buries us, and few make it there.

The only way to stop some of those forces is by forcibly stopping them now, like all of us being strong enough to get the story about Fitzgerald out there in the press.

Yet either through mass ignorance brought on by the mass deceit or refusal to do what it takes to make things happen now due to some of us allowing our love of peace to refuse to action which might stop future war, which is to fight for peace now, just like throughout history nothing was done and the forces of evil and violence become huge, and at some point explode. Then few of us will escape that tsunami.

I disagree our state of mind is being written into our DNA. I think we do as humans have free will and tremendous ability, and can break free though it's not easy.

The key is to get rid of fear and deception. The key is to make a decision to refuse to live in fear, even if you have to die for it, and the moment you do say that and mean it, suddenly you are free and strong. But it sounds hard doesn't it, even almost impossible.

Not really. It's in the spirit of Patrick Henry when he said "give me liberty or give me death." But notice that all the most skillful propaganda and education teaches us to be afraid, that that is a natural cool thing, that whoever isn't is not for real, etc.? Well that's part of that "artful deception."

You have to take a long time to deprogram yourself of all that and program yourself to not be afraid to die tommorrow if necessary, not be afraid to lose your job or your house or anything because what really matters is dignity, honor, freedom, etc.

If everyone did that, the Bush crime family would all be in jail in a week.

[NoFederales]

45. Perhaps others such as I have been influenced by the American myth

of rugged individualism and self-sufficiency. I call it a myth because it has been held up and trivialized over the years. But even our intellectuals uphold existential, or self-actualizing ideals so I am not ashamed for clinging to such notions. In fact, we need people to behave strongly as individuals because it models responsibility. If ever a society existed in need of upholding citizen responsibility it is the Americans. Not everyone can execute the so-called self actualing ideals equally. But certainly those who CAN bear a greater burden to lead, to be vocal, to act, to model the democratic ideals of our republic.

We don't expect narcissists to go about humming "He ain't heavy, he's my brother. . . " but the cynical extremists out there do have a penchant for disguising themselves to deceive others in such beguiling fashion. And this is partly why our job is so difficult in thwarting these evil Bush-like misanthropes. So what if mortgages get called in, pensions get robbed, and the homeless are carted away so that we don't have to see them, jobs are lost as are democratic freemdoms, all for a charlatan's lark, and a host of other obscene things. These truly are dark times and I wonder at the blindness of so many who fail to see what is right there in plain view.

I am very grateful for the many posters at DU who touch base here. In between the gritty forays in our respective communities, we remember how valuable our society is, how it needs to be put back on a path of decency, and so we remind each other here. I don't know if there is a genetic basis for communal groupings, but standing for a healthy and free democratic society had better be a priority.

NoFederales

[SlowDownFast]

25. Recommended/Nominated.

Every day that goes by that I look for measures of truth and sanity from members of congress and mainstream media regarding TRAITORGATE and IRAQUAGMIRE and am disappointed, I know that this country is losing hope of recovering from this evil...

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

26. Does the media blackout extend past this now?

Why has nobody in the blogosphere, or any media source gotten publically outraged about this document?

http://www.answers.com/topic/2004-u-s-presidential-election-controversy-voting-machines

The proof in there is mountains worth, and not one reporter, not even Rawstory has gone in and completely disseminated it and investigated how our voting is done. Why does our country not talk about this?

[Quakerfriend]

27. Yes, where is RawStory on this?

or Wayne Madsen?

[WePurrsevere]

28. Finally things suspected yet hidden are coming into the light...

These Neo-Con facist traitors admittedly are very good but slowly and surely drop by drop the truth comes out and ripples outward. The Corp Media is strong BUT the Internet is an amazing tool and with it "We the people" and TRUTH will ulitimately persevere IF we keep plugging at it... keep the ripples moving outward... break through the darkness with the strength of the light of truth.

May all things hidden be revealed to ALL. May the light of the TRUTH shine brightly on these cockroaches and vampires of humanity.

[Lerkfish]

30. kick

:kick:

[Beam Me Up]

31. Have to give this one a kick. GREAT BLOG: citizenspook.blogspot.com

Read it. Spread the word. FAST. Our future may very well depend on us understanding applicable law in this case. The CON (Corporate Owned News) media will not help us -- and, in fact will work against us. It is UP TO US to spread the word and educate ourselves and one another about these important matters. Our future and the future of our nation depends upon it.

[Al-CIAda]

32. .

[FogerRox]

33. My understanding about potential

Treason charges-- can only be applied when war is declared, as congress did in 1941.
If I am correct, then talk about charges of Treason are moot.

[VIHMH5L50P]

36. NO - and CS (Citizen Spook) comes to the rescue again:

FIRST in his 8/5/05 blog HE CITES THE RELEVANT DEATH PENALTY STATUTE:
(http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005/08/treasongate-controlling-law-part-2.html)

US CODE TITLE 18 PART I—CRIMES CHAPTER 37—ESPIONAGE AND CENSORSHIP
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18.html

§ 794. Gathering or delivering defense information to aid foreign government

(b) Whoever, in time of war, with intent that the same shall be communicated to the enemy, collects, records, publishes, or communicates, or attempts to elicit any information with respect to the movement, numbers, description, condition, or disposition of any of the Armed Forces, ships, aircraft, or war materials of the United States, or with respect to the plans or conduct, or supposed plans or conduct of any naval or military operations, or with respect to any works or measures undertaken for or connected with, or intended for the fortification or defense of any place, or any other information relating to the public defense, which might be useful to the enemy, shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

SECOND, HE PROVIDES THE RELEVANT LEGAL ANALYSIS:

“…finally we come to the statement from 794(b), "in time of war." 794(b) only kicks in if we are in "a time of war." According to the vote by Congress authorizing the war in Iraq, and the Bush administration's words and actions in projecting that war, we are certainly in a time of war at least as far back as March 19, 2003, when we invaded Iraq, but according to the President, war was declared by the enemy on September 11, 2001.

THIRD, HE ALERTS US TO CLEVER BUSH MANIPULATIONS TO SAVE HIS ASS:

In light of this, "in time of war" requirement from 794(b), it's extremely interesting to note the strange public relations circus emanating from Washington regarding the proposed acronym "GSAVE" which has apparently taken over for "GWOT".

GSAVE = Global Struggle Against Violent Extremism

GWOT = Global War Against Terror

Could it be that the Bush administration will start spinning that we were not in a time of war when Rove and others in the Bush administration outed Plame and her team so as to prepare a defense to coming indictments under 794(b) by Patrick Fitzgerald's grand jury?

If we are in a time of war, those involved with outing Valerie Plame and her network are eligible to be prosecuted under 794(b) and therefore are subject to the death penalty.

[Al-CIAda]

34. .

[nashville_brook]

35. mmm - tasty

this is a good question: why the sudden shift from "global war on terrorism" TO "global struggle against violent extremism"?



when is a war not a war?



is this murder?



might the shift be evidence of the Bush admin having worries about prosectuion under the controlling espionage laws.



wouldn't he love to know?



wouldn't they?

this ain't treason.



this is.



We know the memo listed Plame's ID as "secret" and that classification is prima facia proof of how important it was to national security. She was working on WMD. All of the requirements of 18 USC 794(b) have been met.



he who smelt it dealt it.

[Independent_Liberal]

37. Kick!

[Beam Me Up]

38. ditto that

:kick:

[Al-CIAda]

43. .

[merkins]

44. ...Sparkplug Socket Rag... (NT)

KICKED

[starmaker]

46. kick n/t

[BeHereNow]

47. WOW and Welcome to DU-

The CS blog is quite a read-
What he is proposing goes hand in hand
with Charles Shaw's work called,
"The Gatekeepers of the Left"
on the Newstopia site.

I have personally witnessed this technique of
controlling/manipulating both sides of an issue
my own backyard- at my daughters school.

I uncovered some REALLY illegal actions and confronted
the powers that be in the district administration- I had documents
and everything- went to the newspaper trying to get an
investivgator journalist to examine what I had. NO response.
I was later told by an attorney that the reason was, they were
ALL in it together, all the way up to top city officials and
corporate insiders. HUGE amounts of money were being
hidden and transferred to who knows where.
I finally walked away from it because there did not
appear to be ONE entity that was not involved in the scam.
INCLUDING the agencies charged with monitoring/investigating the
abuse of taxpayer funds.

I think the most STRIKING part of CS's piece is the
Vanity Fair photo aspect.
IF the Wilson's were truly concerned about the
danger posed by the outing, then WHY on earth would
Valerie allow her picture to be plastered on a magazine???

Wouldn't EVERYONE she had ever worked
with as an agent IMMEDIATELY be identified and
assoicated with her?

I have to say that alone is HIGHLY suspect and
I have to say I thought so at the time too.

BHN

[NancyG]

48. Is this Tin Hat stuff?

I hate to get excited only to find the thinking's way out there. I want Bush in chains.