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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:38 AM
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"You Don't Speak for Me, Cindy" rightwing caravan headed to Crawford
emailing from 'Move America Forward':


Subject: MUST SEE VIDEO: Pro-Troop Caravan

You've all got to see this:

http://www.news10.net/storyfull1.asp?id=12639

After you read the story, scroll down to the bottom of the page and click that "VIDEO" button to watch the video of the story.

Deborah Johns - the northern California Marine Mom - is a hero who gives us hope to present a positive alternative to the likes of Cindy Sheehan who seem determined to undermine American resolve to win the war against terrorism.

Watch the video and pass this along to others. It will inspire them! Can you imagine if the "You Don't Speak for Me, Cindy" caravan could attract hundreds upon hundreds of vehicles. What a great story it will have become!!!

SERIOUSLY... Watch the video link. It will make you proud that there are such wonderful Americans fighting the good fight:

http://www.news10.net/storyfull1.asp?id=12639


*** If there is no way you can make it to join our caravan or to be at the giant Pro-Troop rally on Saturday, August 27th (in Crawford, Texas) then PLEASE... support us with a financial contribution.

You cannot imagine how expensive it is for us with vehicle rentals, gas, lodging, alone.

And later today we will be showing you the new TV ad that Melanie Morgan and Deborah Johns produced that advertises this "You Don't Speak for Me, Cindy" Tour and pro-troop rally.

We are going to push back and show that Americans will not lose their resolve and withdraw their support for the mission our brave men and women are serving in.

We urgently need your help by either joining our caravan along the route OR showing up for the rally in Crawford, Texas on Saturday afternoon, August 27. You can find the caracan schedule and route -- where you can join us for part or all of the trip -- at http://www.MoveAmericaForward.org

Contribute online here:

http://www.MoveAmericaForward.org/Contribution

Or mail in a contribution to:

Move America Forward
ATTN: Pro-Troop Crawford Trip
P.O. Box 1497
Sacramento, CA 95812
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:41 AM
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1. Oh, I love this line:
"You cannot imagine how expensive it is for us with vehicle rentals, gas, lodging, alone."

No? You don't think so?

Expensive??? Gas???

My oh my, who would have thought!!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:44 AM
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5. Rentals? They don't have their own SUVs?
They don't want to put the mileage on theirs, I guess. :eyes:
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:34 AM
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14. not to mention gas......
.........paying for the gas!!! These days you have to have a 6 figure salary to afford to buy gas!
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:47 AM
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16. Had to register on MAF to actually see their agenda
These so-called people are just plain fucking evil.
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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:57 PM
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45. I guess it never occurred to them to sleep in a tent like the ones at Camp
Casey are doing.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:41 AM
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2. No, she doesn't speak for you
She speaks for herself. Lots of non-assholes happen to agree with her.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:42 AM
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3. When are they gonna STOP???
Of COURSE she doesn't speak for these moon unit zombies. Did she EVER say ANYWHERE that she represents ALL families of American soldiers? Get this right, this is the last time it'll be said: she stands as one mother among MANY who want the President to come clean on this debacle, that's it.

I'm just SICK of these people, GAWD!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:43 AM
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4. Arrghhh!!!!
Deborah Johns - the northern California Marine Mom - is a hero who gives us hope to present a positive alternative to the likes of Cindy Sheehan who seem determined to undermine American resolve to win the war against terrorism.

When will these idiots get it through their heads--you can't "win the war against terrorism" by blowing people up? That just makes MORE terrorists.

The way to spread freedom and (real) American values is by showing them a better carrot, not a bigger stick.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:45 AM
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6. Know who Move America Forward REALLY is??
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 12:50 AM by Carolab
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Move_America_Forward

Move America Forward is a right-wing political advocacy group founded and headed by California Republicans and staff members of the public relations firm Russo Marsh and Rogers, which has strong ties to the Republican Party.

According to its website, "Move America Forward (www.MoveAmericaForward.org) is a non-partisan, not-for-profit organization committed to supporting America's efforts to defeat terrorism and supporting the brave men and women of our Armed Forces." <1> (http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=AboutUs)

According to PR Week, Move America Forward's "vice chairmen are conservative radio talk show co-host Melanie Morgan and National Tax Limitation Committee founder Lew Uhler."<2> (http://www.odwyerpr.com/members/0615moore.htm)

Table of contents
1 Russo Marsh and Rogers

2 MAF targets "Fahrenheit 9/11" but fails

3 Website registration

4 Douglas Lorenz and the Republican Liberty Caucus

5 Move America Forward's articles of incorporation

6 SourceWatch Resources

7 External Links

Russo Marsh and Rogers
Move America Forward's website address was initially registered to Russo Marsh and Rogers, but after the registration information was reported, the details were quickly changed to exclude any mention of RM+R <3> (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/moveamericaforward.html). Move America Forward operates out of the same offices as RM+R and calls to the two organizations are answered by the same receptionist, according to several reports. <4> (http://www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/000202.html)

In the 2001/02 electoral cycle, Russo Marsh and Rogers received $2,475,223 in payments from Republican politicians, and no payments at all from Democrat politicans. <5> (http://www.SourceWatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Russo_Marsh_and_Rogers#Politicians_who_have_been_customers_of_Russo_Marsh_and_Rogers_or_its_predecessors) Move America Forward was launched in June 2004.

Furthermore, although the MAF site describes Sal Russo as the group's "chief strategist," it makes no mention of his involvement in RM+R <6> (http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=AboutUs).

(more at the link above)

On edit: They are the group that tried to keep Fahrenheit 9-11 out of the theaters...and failed.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:00 AM
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13. Hmmmm...sounds like a POLITICAL AGENDA to me.
Peace.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:42 AM
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15. this is like the Swift Boat Vets.........
so if they have all of this money from Republicans, why are they asking for donations for their trip to Crawford?

Also, if they have such a credible voice, how come we haven't heard from them before now? It's funny how these guys come crawling out of the woodwork after Cindy gets so much attention!!
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:22 AM
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20. Melanie Morgan Is The Radio Head Who Received The Email
From the "rest of Casey's family." Interesting these folks are in the same pot. Fuckers. Brown shirted Thugs. Fascist Goons. Self Loathing Fucktards.

Stay cool in Crawford folks these people are out to do some damage.
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:14 AM
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38. help me...
i am heading to Crawford bright and early Sat. morn with
my 17yo son and can't wait to be there....
help me think of some signs for tomorrow.... something more
pointed than just Against the War.....
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:01 AM
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40. All Opposition to Her is Just Fake Republican Party Smear
All you have to do is notice the fact that "Move America Forward" is supposed to remind you of "MoveOn," and confuse you, and "You Don't Speak for Me, Cindy" is supposed to remind you of "Howard Dean Speaks for Me," and confuse you--tarnishing all names involved, to realize it is yet another official Republican Party slander campaign. Why "just so happen" to pick both of those phrases?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:48 AM
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7. And she may not be there for them to dump on
I hope they'll learn some tiny lesson from this. Not that they have the capacity for it. I think they'll only get a longer shovel and keep digging themselves deeper in their slimy trench.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:49 AM
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8. See my post about counter-protests and media coverage of them (link)
When the media finds counter-protesters (e.g. "mother of slain troop supports war")

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4383993&mesg_id=4383993
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:50 AM
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9. Thankfully the Constitution does not limit free speech to intelligence.
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 12:51 AM by countmyvote4real
The actions from the "other" side are just getting dumber and dumber. Go for it, "morans."
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:53 AM
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10. I hope that the PR firm working with Camp Casey is on to this.
They need to figure out how to EXPOSE these shills for who they really are.
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forintegrity Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:57 AM
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11. Cool! Bringing another kind of war to Crawford!
Maybe * will be given a taste of what he's avoided all his life! And how convenient...right at his doorstep!

Gotta love it.

Wonder how much she's (Deborah Johns) getting paid by the repukes to do this? Must be they're pissed they haven't been getting enough attention lately! They must really hate that Cindy has been in the spotlight worldwide and for so long, too! That must really suck for them!

Go CINDY!
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:52 AM
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18. haha.......bring the war to Bush!
I hadn't thought of it that way.........that seems like justice to me!!

You can tell the Republicans are really ticked that Cindy's getting so much attention...........it shows in the things they say about her!

The only thing they ever say about Bush is he's riding his bike or he has to get on with his life.........what a moron!!

And I heard Cheney made a statement about this today too. Wow! Things are really bad when Cheney comes out of hiding!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:25 AM
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43. Exactly what I was thinking...
The more people who show up in Smirk's front yard, the better...
From either side. Let's hound the media to continue covering it.
That way, there will be national coverage for when the Repukes
get violent. Sad to say, it's bound to happen. It's in their nature.

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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:58 AM
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12. Perhaps most Americans...
...will see this for what it is, just another slick marketing campaign meant to make us buy shit and promise not to complain about the smell.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:51 AM
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17. Will someone please tell that woman white hosiery is for NURSES.
It's on the video.

It's a uniform thing not a fashion item. And nurses really don't wear them anymore.

And ladies, if you still have them....it is time to let them go.

And on a less trivial note:

This woman is pretending that Cindy Sheehan doesn't support the troops which is a blatant lie, and that sending our children and spouses to war for a lie means we just keep sending more to die for a poorly planned, grossly undermanned war. She doesn't want another "Vietnam". Well, we have a worse situation in the Middle East, far worse than Vietnam. This isn't about glory and honor for the United States, it is about greed, corruption and hubris.



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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:04 AM
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22. OMG IT IS A PET PEEVE OF MINE
*DISGUSTING*
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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:11 AM
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19. And it will get unfettered access to the roads.
And even better press coverage.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:52 AM
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21. Well, I'm sure their "caravan" tour will be as successful as their attempt
to promote the "anti Fahrenheit 9/11 movie" (I forget the name - it was produced by Disney) as an alternative to the success of Michael Moore's movie...

The movie and its turnout was such a dud that after a few weeks it wasn't even being shown anymore....

:rofl:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:06 AM
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23. wasn't it Fahrenhype 911? It was absolute TRASH
it featured the likes of ANN COULTER for crissakes
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:31 AM
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24. why does this remind me of florida 2000?
considering whose sponsering this three ring circus -- this reminds me of the slobs that ''stormed'' the recount in florida?

i hope these jerks show up at a venue someday where it will be appropriate to actually confront them.

that being said -- it's a free country -- and they can protest where they want -- too bad they can't be more original -- oh yeah that would be oxyMORANic.
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Dynasty_At_Passes Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:32 AM
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25. Are these the same people who chanted the phrase "We don't care"?
?
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:48 AM
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26. BAWHAHA,gas is so expensive Freepers can't make it to the bash Cindy rally
Awwww,isn't that to damn bad? You voted for that ass twice and now you can't even travel to support Bush get-together???

Unbelievably funny....
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:51 AM
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27. Wait,don't tell me..No citizen OUTRAGE about them blocking traffic?
Cindy's group is now on private land,Freepers will be in the ditch where Cindy and her group were ordered to stay. Gee,wonder how much outrage there will be in the community to have them moved out because of traffic problems?
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:52 AM
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28. This could erupt
into something nasty.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:55 AM
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29. "support for the mission" vs. "support the troops"
It's funny how Bush supporters say "support the troops" when they mean "support the mission" or, more specifically, "support Bush's Folly".
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 07:14 AM
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30. Listen to them complain about the expense..
.... as though the tab isn't being paid by "someone" else.
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 07:28 AM
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31. hope they called the crawford area porta-potty people.....
strangers coming to a real strange land.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 07:38 AM
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32. Great Opportunity for Recruiters
Rather than pestering 16 year olds in highschool, here's a whole caravan (well they should be able to round up a dozen or more gung-ho, war-mongers) just itching for war!! Alert all Recruiters!!!

I hope there will be a welcoming committee in Crawford waiting for them with enlistment forms etc.

I wonder will their great leader emerge from hiding to greet them? Has anyone seen him lately?
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 07:51 AM
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33. Cockroaches.
n/t
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:33 AM
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34. Yet another PERSONAL attack ad by the RW Rethugs.
Anyone who must find themselves SUPPORTING AN ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL invasion and occupation and passing it off as "war" is really a lost soul. There is no "war" with Iraq. Saddam's military didn't even really fight. We invaded and now occupy and are fighting a RESISTANCE.
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:49 AM
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35. "if God took my son home..."
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 08:50 AM by lakeguy
God didn't take your son lady, W did.

On a side note, looks like someone decided to do her makeup for her as of late.
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The Sleeper Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:02 AM
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36. "You don't speak for me Cindy....
...because killing Iraqi civilians helps keep us free !!"
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:04 AM
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37. LODGING?? Pull up a ditch, honey!!
:rofl:

NGU.


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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:52 AM
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39. but DeborahJjohns son isn't DEAD!!!! bush didn't KILL her son YET!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:16 AM
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41. Right Wing Caravan? So... 3 Cars??
Maybe 4? Most FReepers have more cars than that on their front lawn.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:18 AM
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42. the right wing doesn't speak for me
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:26 AM
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44. Where is the part where she ever claimed to be speaking for anyone
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 11:30 AM by JimmyJazz
but herself? They are stoooooopid idjits.
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