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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:13 AM
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The War of 2006
The pain of November 2004 is fading and the energy that we thought we could never muster again is building. The mid-term election of 2006 is our last best hope for redemption. Every seat in congress is up for grabs and incumbency is not a virtue. This election must be a referendum on the war in Iraq, the biggest mistake of George Bush’s mistake-prone presidency.

The first step toward recovery is to make sure that we find and support the best qualified candidates who do not have the blood of all those lost in Iraq on their hands. We need to look at the candidates for all the house seats through a different prism. Ask not what they can do for your district but what they did to the world. I never caught on to Dennis Kucinich as a potential president but I would damn sure rather have someone just like him representing me than the Bush acolyte we keep sending back to the congressional hog trough.

Check this list and decide if you need a new face in Washington. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml
Some of these folks will need a ride home too.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:18 AM
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1. As I said on another thread
I'd sooner vote for Daffy Duck or Marvin the Martian before I'd cast a vote for Maria Cantwell OR Patty Murray this time around.

Many of the incumbent Democrats are not only smeared with the blood from Iraq, but from such treacherous bills as the Energy Bill, CAFTA, and the Bankruptcy "reform" legislation.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:22 AM
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3. I'm totally with you
Cantwell and Murray have NO excuses, they are not weak democrats trying to survive in a red state.

I had a buddy back in the day who told me I'd regret supporting Cantwell. Boy was he right.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:30 AM
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4. Yep...
Not part of the solution means they're part of the problem.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:34 AM
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5. damn I had to check to make sure I didn't write that!
Both Cantwell and Murray are DINOs.

I refuse to vote for a Republican -- with a "D" beside her name.

I will not be voting for Cantwell.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:53 AM
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6. I was surprised to see the low approval rating
for Patty Murray in the SUSA Senate poll but from what I'm reading here, she must not be as popular as she used to be. A lot of Dems are feeling the same way about Diane Feinstein here.
While I respect your opinion and agree with most of it, what are the chances of another Dem challenging either one of them that can win, or, more likely, losing the seat to a republican? Just asking.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 07:57 AM
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13. That's actually one of my concerns...
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 07:57 AM by Mythsaje
and a reason why these people keep getting re-elected even though their records are suspicious. What's the alternative?
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:46 PM
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17. A real conundrum
I'm glad you didn't misunderstand my post. I'm in the same spot, as I said. I don't always agree with Feinstein but she still shares my core beliefs on the environment, for example. She worked tirelessly to save the northern redwoods. Would a republican do that? No!
In my opinion, better two Dem Senators to get a greater percentage of what you DO agree with rather than a repug who would be part of that lock-step mindset.

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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:57 AM
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7. yeah, but what is our alternative in WA. Another Dino Rossi wannabe?
We need a couple of Jim McDermotts to run for the Senate.
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progressive_realist Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:55 AM
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10. What's up with the Patty Murray bashing?
She did not vote for the Iraq War Resolution. She is a good, liberal Senator. Seriously. She voted no on the energy and bankruptcy bills. What more do you want from her? Perhaps you should actually pay attention to the voting records of your Senators and Representatives before you condemn them.

Besides, she's not up for re-election this year. Save your venom for Cantwell. And even Cantwell is better than Rossi. Unless you have a better candidate in mind? The only Democratic alternative to Cantwell that I can see is Ron Sims, and he would have a tough time getting elected to any statewide office. He didn't do so well in the governor's race this last year, did he?
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 07:54 AM
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12. One acronym. CAFTA...
If they're not actively working against EVERYTHING this bunch of crooks are doing, they're history.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:13 AM
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14. CAFTA was one of my primary bitches
but she also voted yes on the Bankruptcy Bill. She also voted yes on telecomm deregulation.

On the positive side, the Christian Coalition hates her. But they're stupid, so I'm not certain how much of a recommendation this is.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:37 PM
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18. So where is the fucking FARM TEAM of progressives in WA state?
We need progressives running for office at all state and local levels. Otherwise there isn't anyone with the street cred to run against Cantwell. With a Rethug, you get all of her bad votes plus getting more screwing from energy deregulation, which at least she is fighting against.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:18 AM
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2. scream it, get it on the MSM: Diebold! Diebold! Diebold!
The elections are rigged and we need above all to get integrity restored.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:05 AM
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8. echo...echo...echo...
I hear you..if the Democrats cant neutralize Deibold..Its a losing battle...BTW, next year we here in NYS must go e-vote.We're about 60/40 dem statewide..80/20 dems in nyc..Should Hillary lose her Senate seat massive riots will break out..Those damn Diabolical Deibold machines are our greatest enemy...
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:05 AM
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9. DU is an echo chamber, but we need to MOBILIZE
This can't be just another echo within the confines of DU. This needs to be a call to action for DU'ers to get their flabby honky butts on the boards of elections and get black people's votes counted by any means necessary.

And not just black people's votes (even though they're being purged in a grossly discriminatory manner). Everyone's votes. It has to be real, even if we don't like the results (though we sort of know the results are in our favor anyway).
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Dynasty_At_Passes Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:01 AM
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11. My whole point here is I don't see this about political parties.
I'm all for electing honest politicians into office, by any means neccesary and I mean just honest ones.

The biggest problem is there does not seem to be enough attention paid to this document and the hordes of legal cases surrounding it.

http://www.answers.com/topic/2004-u-s-presidential-election-controversy-voting-machines

From what I have witnessed in this proof, most of these voting machines should not even be allowed in state elections or county elections. They are illegal because the certification process did not take place to begin with. Instead it was championed by someone called NASED, who went along and certified them anyway despite known legal security holes and tampering. What I'm getting at, is there should be no reason any politician is silent over this.

It makes me wonder if alot of them out there are in office honestly, and who is for real and who is fake, just hitting like a ton of bricks. The proof is not being followed up on.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:57 AM
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15. Isn't it Howard Dean's responsibility to oversee that each district
has a democratic running that is a REAL democrat? Serious question, I really don't know. If it isn't his responsibility, who's is it, the public?
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The Sleeper Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:12 AM
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16. Agreed, demindistress....
But there's more than one way to skin a cat.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:48 PM
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19. Sleeper check out this larceny
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=388692

This is what concerns me....read some of those horror stories..

get back to me, thanks
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