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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:23 PM
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Cleland: ‘Bush’s Iraq Plan For Victory is Not Working
Bush to Begin 5 Day “Stay the Course” Tour, Max Cleland: ‘Bush’s Iraq Plan For Victory is Not Working’
August 20th, 2005

As George W. Bush prepares to begin a five-day push to “tell Americans why he thinks U.S. troops must continue the fight in Iraq,” former Senator Max Cleland of Georgia delivered the Democratic Radio Address this morning.

Bush, challenged but not bowed by the protestors who continue the vigil outside of his Texas ranch in Cindy Sheehan’s stead, once again invoked “the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in his radio address” today. It has been proven that there is no direct connection between 9/11 and the Iraq war, but that still does not stop Bush from continuing to attempt to invoke fear into Americans.



The Democratic Radio Address — Max Cleland: ‘Bush’s Iraq Plan For Victory is Not Working’

“Good morning. I’m former Senator Max Cleland.

“My fellow Americans. My friends. I’m a veteran of the Vietnam War. Having left three limbs on that battlefield, I’ve seen the toll that war can take on our troops and on our country. We are now engaged in another war — a war in Iraq. However, the Bush Administration’s plan for victory is not working.

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:26 PM
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1. There is no plan for victory, only for occupation at the expense
of small town american sons and daughters and Iraqi's starved into corruption. Its all a farce, from start to finish, its one lie after another.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:09 PM
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2. Great speech from Cleland!
He nails it and Bush.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:28 PM
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3. What can Max mean?
Bush proclaimed victory on the aircraft carrier, I seem to recall.

Oh ye of little faith. What we have been witnesssing all this time is just a bunch of disaffected Baathist dead-enders firing catapults and pea-shooters.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:57 PM
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4. Um, don't decent people WANT it to NOT work?
I mean, it's only war crimes and transnational theft and privatization (piratization) of Iraqi resources, but maybe we don't want that 'strategy' to succeed?

It really bothers me when even good Dems like Cleland criticize 'the plan not working', 'not achieving success', 'not completing the mission'. Excuse me, but the 'mission' is FUCKING ILLEGAL, people.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:22 PM
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5. Kerry: What we need is an "intelligent design" for the Iraq policy.
Cleland and Kerry are still swinging away at Bush. I wish the 24/7 news services would cover their remarks more indepth.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:34 PM
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7. They'd need to turn up missing for the MSM to cover anything they say....
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:48 PM
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13. Kerry has been getting a lot of coverage recently
Too bad the MSM didn't pay attention months ago.
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Muddy Waters Guitar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:31 PM
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6. It was designed for failure
and now we're witnessing the effects.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:14 PM
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8. WTF does victory mean when it is an illegal occupation to steal oil???
Is victory that we steal all their oil? What is he talking about??? THIS is why most people think Democrats don't make any sense....they don't!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:35 PM
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9. When Iraq is subdued and another Colony of Amerika...
the Bush Regime will declare Victory.

The Hand-Over That Wasn't: Illegal Orders give the US a Lock on Iraq's Economy
by Antonia Juhasz

Officially, the U.S. occupation of Iraq ended on June 28, 2004. But in reality, the United States is still in charge: Not only do 138,000 troops remain to control the streets, but the "100 Orders" of L. Paul Bremer III remain to control the economy.

These little noticed orders enacted by Bremer, the now-departed head of the now-defunct Coalition Provisional Authority, go to the heart of Bush administration plans in Iraq. They lock in sweeping advantages to American firms, ensuring long-term U.S. economic advantage while guaranteeing few, if any, benefits to the Iraqi people.

The Bremer orders control every aspect of Iraqi life - from the use of car horns to the privatization of state-owned enterprises. Order No. 39 alone does no less than "transition from a … centrally planned economy to a market economy" virtually overnight and by U.S. fiat.

Although many thought that the "end" of the occupation would also mean the end of the orders, on his last day in Iraq Bremer simply transferred authority for the orders to Prime Minister Iyad Allawi - a 30-year exile with close ties to the CIA and British intelligence.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0805-07.htm
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:43 PM
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10. Goes along with every other "plan" he's had since 2000
Thank GOD even the most dense,stupid,flaming RW'ers saw through his SS reform sham.
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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:49 PM
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11. well the plan *for victory* isnt working but that doesnt mean
there isn't a plan.

Remember those old quiz shows on teevee when you won the prize and got a 10 minute 'shopping spree' in the department store? You got to keep everything you could stuff into a basket in 10 minutes.

Cheney's *plan* is to prolong the shopping spree as long as possible. Each new non-bid contract or Lockheed-Martin VP going into the DOD raises these bastards' bank account balance by another order of magnitude.

It is incorrect to say that there is no plan.

The plan is to loot, pillage and rake off for as long as possible.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:04 PM
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12. Halliburton and Carlyle Group would disagree with him
For them and all the oil men in the Administration it is working perfectly.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:36 PM
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14. That's true...
Haliburton supports the machine.
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