Deprogramming Deminazis and Crafting the Crux

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When Rush Limbaugh started in a local market in the mid-Eighties, young people who might have known better listened to him and said he was "funny." To this day, he pulls the "it's entertainment" handle when he needs to, when he gets cornered by truth.

Somewhere along the line, between Sacramento (same market that spawned Don Imus and John Gibson) and syndication, a legion of Dittoheads and Limbaugh himself began taking Rush seriously.

Generations have grown up post-Rush and post-"Feminazi." Somehow, lots of young people who might have known better don't realize how Rush's fabricated constructs have impacted and infiltrated their own worldviews.

Some of them are Democrats and Progressives and DUers. Let's help them toward a better understanding of history and reality regarding women/human rights issues.

How does someone end up with this sort of attitude regarding abortion?:

"Bingo! It's purely a wedge issue. Just like same-sex marriage
It affects very few people."

And where I would say that all the "legal and rare" rhetoric would be energy better directed to addressing economic injustice and preventing poverty, this poster continues:

"It's time to focus on what's important for America:
Healthcare, Education, Poverty, Deficit reduction"

...AS IF women's reproductive health rights are incidental and irrelevant.

IT "AFFECTS VERY FEW PEOPLE"? Clearly, this person grew up in a mall, in a post-Limbot world, after the Reaganesque destruction of our sense of ourselves as a NATION with a social contract. He needs help from wise and informed DUers who can provide some context and guidance.

THE WHOLE GAME OF REPUBLICAN WEDGE ISSUES IS ABOUT RIGID GENDER ROLES AND KEEPING THE STATUS QUO-- INCLUDING TURNING THE CLOCK BACK ON RECENT DECADES' SOCIAL PROGRESS.

Motivation of The Powers That Be for attacks on:

Gay Marriage: (keep status quo gender power roles intact and rigid)

Women's Rights: (keep status quo gender power roles intact and rigid)

Reproductive Privacy Rights: (keep status quo gender power roles intact and rigid)

All of the Above: divide and conquer-- disrupt and distract the opposition

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We need to cut to the chase. Divergent groups need to unify the message and the efforts. We need Democratic leaders to quit acting as apologists for our right to our human rights. The Democratic Party needs to get a clue and EMBRACE human rights issues, including women's rights issues, and recognize that this is the only way for the Party to remain politically viable. If Democrats want to woo Republicans, why don't they JOIN THEM?

The Independent and Undecided and reasonable Republicans WILL support human rights and women's rights. All this blustering about "framing" and pandering to the pseudo-religious busy-body bigot brigades is a WASTE OF VALUABLE TIME.

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Too many discussions here are with folks who have grown up without any sense of Context or of History. Will we find a way to clarify the issues, craft the crux and deprogram Deminazis, so that Progressives can quit wasting time and energy; so the work can be done to reinvigorate a viable and relevant Democratic Party?


Thanks Swamp Rat

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1. the power to choose involves all women

because we never know when we, or our sisters or daughters might need it. Family planning is one tool to help people get out of poverty-being able to choose the number of children you have has a direct impact on the family in the amount of money available for health care and education. And definately NO women should ever be FORCED to carry the product of a crime (rape) to term unless she chooses to.

I won't ever force an abortion on anyone, but I will demand that it always be an option.

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2. and men; citizens united in a nation of peace and prosperity

(one can still dream)

We are suffering from the Reagan years mantra Greed-is-God mentality of I Got Mine-- Outta My Way Sucker!

Somehow folks have fallen for the notion that they have no vested interest in the health and welfare and education of fellow citizens BUT they have a vested interest in intruding into the most personal aspects of their lives. :crazy:

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3. Maybe start with deprogramming

Crafting the crux too ambitious?

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4. Can we please agree that it is VERY SIMPLE?

Women have a Constitutional right to sovereignty over their own bodies and to privacy regarding their health care.

Do Dems/DUers really think this way?

"The issue here involves balancing the rights of a pregnant woman against the rights of her fetus. Most Democrats (myself included) feel that the rights of the pregnant woman are more important, and most Republicans feel more strongly about the rights of the fetus (relative to the rights of the woman, compared with Democrats)."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2022073&mesg_id=2022367

Who decided that a pregnant woman and her fetus are commodities to be divvied up by strangers? is that crazy or what? Until that child is born, it is PART OF THE WOMAN'S BODY.

Even if the RW invents reality to suit its own agenda, can the Left stay grounded in physical reality, PLEASE?

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5. Oh what the hell

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