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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:22 PM
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Diebold Hires Top Dem for PR blitz
Let me know what you think...


http://www.insidebayarea.com/localnews/ci_2958901


Diebold hires top Dem for PR blitz
Former party chairman make the case for voting to California
By Ian Hoffman, STAFF WRITER

With a phone call and a retainer, Diebold CEO Walden O'Dell has launched former Democratic National Committee chairman Joe Andrew on a 50-state ambassadorship for electronic voting.
O'Dell said he ``wanted to reframe some of the issues,'' Andrew said.

His first stop: California, the nation's largest market for voting machines and the place where Diebold's fortunes as the largest supplier of electronic-voting machines in the nation could be made or broken.

``Even if you have tremendous success every place else,'' said Andrew, ``if you can't sell technology in California, you're in trouble.''

The rest of the voting industry is selling technology here. Millions in federal dollars sit ready for counties to put at least one high-tech, handicapped-accessible voting machine in every polling place by January.

But in California, Diebold can't sell its touchscreen voting machine, the AccuVote TSx, nor can counties that bought thousands of the machines in 2003 used them in elections.

More than $30 million worth of TSx machines sit in three counties' warehouses, unapproved for actual voting. More than $15 million worth of earlier-generation Diebold touchscreens in Alameda, Los Angeles and Plumas counties cannot be used after January.

Andrew said computer scientists and e-voting activists are standing in the way of a promising technology, an ATM-like voting computer with such a low error rate that more votes count. And that, said Andrew, should work to the benefit of Democrats.

The tour pairs Andrew with former Republican congressional aide Melissa McKay, now working for the public-relations firm, Ogilvy PR. But California and its Democrats were clearly Andrew's show.

Diebold's new charm offensive for Democrats strikes some as a public-relations gambit, a segue from mishaps and mistakes in its voting business to the uncontroversial notion of making more votes count for the elderly, minorities and disabled voters.

``This is a new tactic, a new solution for a company that, unlike other electronic-voting companies, has a continuing public-relations problem, certainly in California,'' said Dan Seligson, editor of Electionline.org, a nonpartisan clearinghouse for voting-reform information.

``It's not based on nothing,'' Seligson said. ``It's based on the problems they've had.''

In three years in California, Diebold voting devices have awarded thousands of votes to the wrong candidates and broken down in two large counties during a presidential primary. Two successive state election chiefs, a Democrat and a Republican, both have rejected the TSx.

Former Secretary of State Kevin Shelley suggested criminal prosecution, citing misleading statements by Diebold Election Systems executives and ``reprehensible'' tactics. The state joined a false-claims suit against the company and won a $2.5 million settlement.

Last month, Secretary of State Bruce McPherson cited poor performance in state testing, with paper jams and software crashes in 28 percent of machines used in a mock election.

But Andrew isn't traveling the nation to talk about that or even to talk much about Diebold. So why is a ranking Democratic operative who was convinced Republicans ``stole'' the 2000 election working for Diebold and O'Dell, a battlestate fund-raiser for Bush-Cheney 2004?

It is Andrew's message that paperless electronic voting is good for Democrats - and his connections in Democratic circles.
``Joseph's a smart guy and has a lot of contacts out there,'' said Kimball Brace, president of Election Data Services, a Washington-based consultant on elections.

Andrew is tapping reliable Democratic constituents - civil-rights groups, minority groups such as the NAACP and the National Association of Latino Elected Officials and such disability groups as the Council for the Blind.

They rallied in 2001 under the umbrella of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights to rid the nation of reviled punchcard voting, and Andrew worked pro-bono as their lawyer. He delivered bipartisan support for the Help America Vote Act. Behind the act was the presumption that electronic voting was salvation from the dimpled and hanging chad and from having to resort to the Supreme Court to decide the presidency.

But Congress delayed 16 crucial months in setting up a new federal agency to oversee and enforce standards for the new voting equipment. By 2003, the debate over voting equipment shifted from civil-rights groups and their lawyers to computer scientists who argued that electronic voting was too vulnerable to breakdowns, errors and fraud, at least without any backup paper record of the vote.

So far, they've been winning. Despite resistance from Diebold and some other e-voting suppliers, lawmakers in 25 states have passed laws requiring a paper backup, for review by voters and in most cases recounts by elections officials. Fourteen other states and the District of Columbia are debating such a requirement.

While Ohio, Mississippi and Utah are considering large purchases of touchscreens, sales of paper-based optical scanning machines so far are outpacing sales of electronic-voting machines since the 2004 election.

In California at least, Andrew sees civil-rights leaders abdicating from a worthy cause. ``The great irony is, it's the progressives - my side of the aisle - who are against electronic voting but have the most to benefit from it.''

The odd couple of Diebold and Andrew have ``their work cut out for them,'' said Kim Alexander, president of nonprofit California Voter Foundation.

She acknowledges that electronic voting has plenty going for it, such larger type for elderly voters, ballot displays in multiple languages and an audio ballot for visually impaired voters.

``But the way it's been implemented has been irresponsible and reckless,'' Alexander said. ``What we've seen all across the country are numerous examples of glitches and problems. I wish that Diebold would put it's effort into making better equipment and making its paper trail work, rather than a PR campaign.''

Contact Ian Hoffman at ihoffman@anqnewspapers.com

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:25 PM
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1. No paper trail = no point.
Diebold should have known better from the start.

Which means they shouldn't BE in banking... or were put up to making paperless machines.

Everyone knows that, in banking, you WANT a paper trail for every conceivable action. It is therefore surprising they chose not to include one for voting machines. Of course, money means more than the voters...
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jurassicpork Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:30 PM
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2. If these Diebold
people get in California, all hope is lost. There's a reason why Bush wants these fraud boxes in all 50 states. The Democrats will never win an election ever again. The local election officials don't even know how to run these machines, and Diebold will happily supply the people needed to whomeever needs their "assistance."

Reject the money, I say. Let's get back to using paper ballots, something with a paper trail, some framework for accountability.

And let's investigate this Joe Andrew guy and see whether or not he's been turned.

JP
http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:31 PM
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3. Leaves very bad taste in the mouth. Diebold owner dedicated himself
to getting bush elected. nuff said.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:32 PM
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4. Kick!
How much did Diebold have to pay this traitor to betray democracy?
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:35 PM
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5. hmmm...they can get atms and electronic banking down good,
but have trouble with electronic voting? :shrug:

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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:49 PM
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6. More Lipstick for the Pig, right?
That should pretty much sum it up... Call it Diebold's "Karen Hughes" strategy.
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LouisianaLiberal Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:00 PM
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7. Dance with the Devil...
So the idea of the "noble lie" is no longer restricted to Republicans if the money is right.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:02 PM
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8. If THIS doesn't raise little red flags all over the place, nothing will
Andrews, a former DNC Chair and the founder of Indiana's DLC is trying to sell the Democratic Party on machines that have NO VOTER VERIFIED PAPER BALLOT and can't do a recount? ... machines with proprietary secret software that has been problem plagued at best, and fraud plagued at worst...

Oh Yeah.. Those machines sound like JUST what the Democrats need
:sarcasm::sarcasm: :sarcasm:

JEEbus I hope they laugh him out of town.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:41 PM
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9. I wonder how many locations Diebold paid off to go with them?
I mean.. we know about the case in Ohio where they (Diebold) actually got caught --- but the news articles all say that the elections official who took the $10,000 was suspended...

Doesn't say that Diebold was ever repremanded. We happened to find out about that case because it made news.. but I wonder how many times they've been able to pay off elections officials to choose them that we don't hear about??

BTW... Dumb question- How do you pronounce Diebold anyway?

I always thought it was "DIE-bold", but Big Eddie pronounces it "Dee-bold" on his show.. :shrug: :crazy:
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:14 AM
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10. all I can say at the moment
:puke:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:25 PM
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:33 AM
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12. PLEASE write your Dem elected officials and the DNC about this!
August 24, 2005

Representative Adam Smith
3600 Port of Tacoma Road, Suite 106
Tacoma, Washington 98424

Dear Rep. Smith:

I was appalled to learn this week that former Democratic National Committee chairman Joe Andrew is now shilling for Diebold, whose CEO last year promised to deliver Ohio for Bush. (http://www.insidebayarea.com/localnews/ci_2958901 ) Joe Andrew is currently an advisor to the New Democratic Network (NDN). Simon Rosenberg, one of the candidates for chair of the DNC this last January, is the president of NDN. When you had Mr. Rosenberg visit Renton earlier this year for the progressive gathering, I was very impressed by his discussion of framing issues. I wonder, though, if he actually understands that framing issues better won’t mean jack if votes continue to be stolen from Democratic candidates with unauditable electronic voting machines.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Citizens_Request_Recount_IN_SAN_DIEGO_MAYO_0818.html This URL has information about a parallel voting project recently carried out by a non-partisan election reform group in San Diego, CA, which demonstrated a clear shift of 4% of the votes by the Diebold GEMS central tabulator to Republican candidates for mayor. Judy Alter initiated this project after her experiences in the New Mexico recount after the 2004 presidential election. In Santa Fe, Alter detected a shift of third-party candidate votes into the Bush/Cheney column.

"That pattern has now been identified in eight states," Alter told Raw Story in an exclusive interview, adding that numerous other indications of electronic fraud have been found. "This is why I'm leading Study California Ballots, because we have to actually count," added Alter.

There is no way of telling exactly how widespread this pattern was in 2000 and 2004, since private companies refuse to allow their software to be examined on the grounds that it is a trade secret. Why in the name of God is a Democrat running around the country advocating that we use election systems which consistently cheat on behalf of Republicans?

If you have any influence with Mr. Rosenberg, can’t you get him to do something about Joe Andrew? This situation is absolutely intolerable.

Sincerely,


Other folks who need to know--

http://www.ndn.org/about/contact.html

Mailing Address:
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003
Main Phone Number:
202-863-8000



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