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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:37 AM
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TBN on the Military: "Christ-Centered Duty" with automatic weapons
Force Ministries: 'Kill for Christ' Cult by TBN
by URI DOWBENKO

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=104&contentid=2601



Force Ministries, with links to the TBN website, promotes "Imparting Faith in Christ" -- through the barrel of a gun.

The splash page of Force Ministries shows "Mission: Christ Centered Duty" with grim faced American servicemen in camo, toting automatic weapons. They claim to be "missionaries to military bases."

"Equipping military personnel for Christ centered duty" is the tagline of Force Ministries.

"Christ centered duty"?



http://www.forceministries.com/
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:40 AM
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1. HOLY SHIT!
That is one of the most screwed up things I have seen...Is this for real?
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:42 AM
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2. It's real. Check out the URL at the bottom of my post.
The people behind it are Paul and Jan Crouch, founders of the Trinity Broadcast Network:



:spray:
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:44 AM
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4. Yeah, I just found the link!
http://www.forceministries.com/

Unbelievable. The site doesn't flat out say anything too crusade like, but the implication is so there. Way, way, out there.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:49 AM
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5. There are all kinds of disturbing little details on that site...
...FORCE Bible Studies?



:scared:
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:03 AM
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7. Oh yeah, way, way, way, way. I'm diggin up facts. Crazy things appearing!
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 05:17 AM by lvx35
Where these guys are from...insane. From their site:

We are a participating member of the Morning Star International family

About MSI:

VCM is an evangelical Christian group. They are linked to the American movement of the same name, effectively an offshoot of the U.S.-based Maranatha/Morning Star Church. The aim of VCM as a group is to infiltrate student campuses around the world. They start a club at any given university and fill out its members with the few fundamentalists that exist through statistical inevitability on any campus; once the club is formed, the on-campus missionary work begins. As the group begins to gather force, it nominates some of its members to run for student government, then pours in all its monetary and human resources into winning their members positions of power within university. Its tactics have been described as “aggressive” and “cult-like.”

And here: (Morning Star International Appears to be also known as Every Nation. http://ministries.everynation.org/default.asp)

Bethel World Outreach Center is a member of the Every Nation family of churches, which is part of "The New Order of the Latter Rain." The "New Order" is a cult movement that covertly believes its leaders are the collective reincarnation of Jesus Christ.

And also, the author here refers to this militant stuff.

The “Joel’s Army” idea might well explain why Christian Reconstructionists appear to have influence with Every Nation (particularly George Grant, a non-member who has taught at Every Nation’s Victory Leadership Institute); it also chimes with warfare/Crusade rhetoric I've seen in some MSI/Every Nation materials.

source of the last two things:
http://blogs.salon.com/0003494/2005/07/28.html

Now we all know who the reconstructionists are:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm

Most Christians interpret this verse as meaning that God gave mankind dominion over the animal kingdom. Dominion theologians believe that that this verse commands Christians to bring all societies, around the world, under the rule of the Word of God.

Christian world domination...And the top members think of themselves as the reincarnations of Christ collectivized. THESE GUYS ARE SCARY!!!!

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:43 AM
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3. Scarey man..scarey
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:54 AM
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6. It's well past time to start revoking the
tax exempt status of organizations such as this. A church this ain't.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:10 AM
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8. This is what happened at the AF Academy. It legitimizes killing. n/t
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:14 AM
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9. This HAS to be an ironic web site
You know, like Landover Baptist Church; a bunch of wise-acres put the web site up to show us just how scary Christians could be.

It HAS to be.

Right?

--p!
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:16 AM
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11. No, they are real, check it out.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 05:19 AM by lvx35
Read about their parent group on dailykos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/3/11267/6129

Or see my post above. Real, and crazy! I am shocked as well!!!

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:16 AM
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10. These folks creep me out.
Seriously.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:33 AM
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12. This is not good.
What would Jesus say? :sarcasm: (I seriously doubt that he approved of the Crusades either!)

No, this is not good. It is a perversion of Jesus' message.



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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:55 AM
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13. What an interesting group of pro-lifers..... smashing.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:04 AM
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14. Thats fkn scary shit
Sendin souls to Jeebus - the American Way!
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:13 AM
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15. In Germany circa 1933
they were called brownshirts.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:36 AM
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16. "Christian Right's Infiltration of the Military"
...The next chapter of this story begins with Lt. Gen. William G. “Jerry” Boykin, the Pentagon’s senior military intelligence official. He graduated from Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University with a bachelor’s degree in education in 1971. That same year, he was commissioned in the U.S. Army, where he rose through the ranks to Commanding General of the U.S. Army Special Forces Command (Airborne) Fort Bragg, N.C. and then in June 2003 to the present to Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence at the Pentagon.<19>

There is no question that Lt. Gen. Boykin is a brave soldier, and he is undoubtedly a personable man. But in searching through data available on the web, it appears that while the general has spent thirty three years in the military, he has had very little formal military education with the exception of a year at the Army War College in 1990-1991.<20>

Boykin became the focus of media reports when he spoke about his involvement in the war on terrorism at twenty-three Baptist and Pentecostal churches across the country, accompanied by two military aides. According to a 10-month internal investigation conducted by the defense department’s deputy inspector general for investigations and reported by the Washington Post, Boykin received reimbursement for his travel costs from one of the sponsoring church groups and failed to report that fact. He wore his uniform and gave the impression that he was representing the military. <21>

The investigation confirmed that Boykin said that the U.S. military is recruiting a spiritual army that will draw strength from a greater power to defeat its enemy.<22> In fact, he told the First Baptist Church of Broken Arrow, Okla. on June 30, 2002, “What I’m here to do today is to recruit you to be warriors of God’s kingdom.”<23>

If you can bear it, the whole article, which includes Katherine Yurica's Oct 2004 report "Gen. Boykin’s “Kingdom Warriors” On the Road to Abu Ghraib and Beyond", and her look at FORCEMINISTRIES.COM, is here.... Christian Right's Infiltration of the Military

Frankly, I'm not surprised. As far as I'm concerned at this point, the entire US Right has declared war on the only people in this country who would defend their freedom to think this way -- us.

When there are only two people left in America, and they're Republicans, they will no doubt find just cause to murder each other.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:56 AM
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17. And I thought Marx was the one rolling in his grave
Hell, violent revolution is elemental to communism: Lenin, Stalin and Mao could not have perverted Marx's ethos that severely.

But Christ was a pacifist, averse to violence on all levels. "Force ministries"? WTF?
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:06 AM
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18. Look Freeps...Christ's army will now drag your chicken asses...
down to the recruiter station soon, and gang save you.

This is the stinking decaying rot of the RW which is now officially in it's insane out of control spiral.

Yes Freepitos...this is what you signed on for.

See you at church...err, induction center.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:29 AM
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19. The freeps would wet themselves if left alone with these guys...
This is all of their empty "Show 'em your CATTLE, W" rhetoric, taken to its sickest extreme.
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