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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:46 AM
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Nader: Democrats made me feel like a (n-word)
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 09:06 AM by quaoar
I found a mention of this in the latest edition of Harper's Index. I looked it up and found he said this in June. I did a search and couldn't find where it had ever been posted here, so if this is old news, sorry about that.

According to the rest of the story, Nader said he was using the word in the same way that the Black Panthers used it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/319830p-273490c.html

If Ralph Nader doesn't stop dropping the N-bomb, Al Sharpton is going to wash out his mouth with soap.

"Nader is not a racist by any stretch of the imagination," Sharpton told me yesterday. "He has a good track record. But he ought to be sensitive that he does not sanitize that word."

Speaking Wednesday night at a Washington fund-raiser to retire the debt from his 2004 presidential campaign, Nader complained that Democratic Party powerbrokers had kept him off the ballot in such Southern states as Georgia and Virginia - which reminded him of the oppressive Jim Crow laws that denied African-Americans equal rights.

"I felt like a (n-word)," remarked the 70-year-old white multimillionaire graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Law School.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:47 AM
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1. yet another reason Nader is the classiest guy around!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:52 AM
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2. Really?
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 09:08 AM by Totally Committed
:nopity:

On edit: I hate that word.

On second edit: This has me seething, so I am wondering, how do the African-American DU-ers feel about his use of this word?
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:59 AM
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3. He really has no clue at all.
Does he?

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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:08 AM
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4. Nader makes me sick
:puke: What an opportunistic idiot...and by making these comments, he is an idiot.

He needs to just go away.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:52 PM
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22. If you don't put that energy into ousting the DLC - there's going to be
another third party - in 2008.

I guarantee you - and I will be turning in my DP registration and go Independent -

Right now, I'm looking at Bernie Sanders to run for President since the Dems can't seem to come with anyone other than the same ole tired list of DLC betrayers and losers over and over again.



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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:01 PM
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23. Deserting the party will show those DLC bastards, all right!
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 05:03 PM by blondeatlast
:sarcasm:

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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:06 PM
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24. If the DLC isn't OUSTED from the Party - We will be FORCED to run a THIRD
Party candidate!

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spaniard Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:32 PM
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26. do it
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 05:33 PM by spaniard
Felate the GOP
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:41 PM
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27. No force about it, there will be a third party candidate, there always is.
I despise the DLC, I want them gone, but if the true progressives leave the party, the DLC takes over quite easily.

I find that unnacceptable, that's all.

I'm gonna stay in and take them on.
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:08 AM
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5. Poor ol' Ralph...he's the political equivalent of Orson Welles
a boy genius turned into a pathetic clown, frantically waving his arms and screaming, "Hey! Look at me! I used to be somebody! I used to be a contender! Over here, somebody...anybody...?" What a tragedy. If he could just have subordinated his ego to his talents, he might have accomplished wonderful things.



:+
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:13 AM
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6. The sad thing is,
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 09:29 AM by Totally Committed
He used to be one of the most brilliant minds in this country. Now he is just a political suicide that we saw happen right on front of our eyes.

A tragedy? You bet. And, he did it to himself. Rampant ego, just for the sake of rampant ego is always a tragedy, especially on this scale. Two words to contemplate: President Gore
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:00 AM
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9. I know. He could have put his energy into, for example...
...expanding health care coverage, or some other worthy cause. Prior to 2000, he would have had the moral authority and could have sought out political allies, for it is only by building up the issue and winning allies that anything would get done (the other side already has its apparatus in place).

Instead Nader has chosen a rather odd, neither-fish-nor-fowl stance, in which he critizes, with justification, what is going on in this country, but also bends over backwards to alienate many of his natural allies. He's done a great deal to split the progressive vote and moderates who might gravitate that way. Any way you look at it, he's not helping and is indeed harming those he purports to care for.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 12:01 PM
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15. You nailed it. That's what makes his incessant need for approval
so pathetic.

He turns his back on the American people for his own ends, thaen retreats to a lonely corner screaming "over here!"
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:23 PM
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16. He'll soon follow up with the R word
Rosebud
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:25 PM
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17. oh, fuck that. Welles made tons of interesting films post-Kane.
whereas Nader? Not so much.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:26 PM
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25. "We'll sell no whine before it's time"
And could someone please tell the Scissor Sisters that The Captain and Tenille called-- they want their act back.

:rofl:

Patti Smith: "Rock 'n roll nader"
Yoko Ono: "Woman is the nader of the world"

Poor Ralph.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:14 AM
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7. We hurt his feelings?
He hurt our country! Kiss mine, Nader.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:14 AM
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8. he really is
clueless.


twit.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:08 AM
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10. stuck in 1975 for the rest of his life

Pretty sad, really.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:46 AM
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11. Maybe he meant "Nut"
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:51 AM
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12. He doesnt qualify for any of the meanings of the word, good or bad.
He is hardly a victim of oppression, any "suffering" he has endured has been a result of his own stupidity and arrogance. He is hardly the epitome of cool or youthful rebellion.

He is just a sad, tired old man who is clueless when it comes to politics. A man whom Grover Norquist used and discarded for political purposes. That doesn't make him any kind of N word. It makes him an T word.

A Tool.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:53 AM
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13. Nader is the a-word. n/t
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:58 AM
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14. Hmmmmmmmmmm... I remember, he got his money from Right wing
nuts to get on the ballots and now, he is trying to blame Democrats? Court threw him off the ballots because he was doing many illegal tricks.
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Alva Goldbook Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:40 PM
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18. Nader rocks
Nader's uncompromising and I like that. He needed to say it. he should have been able to working within the DNC framework, but they didn't allow him to.

We should all recognize that had Teddy Rooveselt not started the Bull Moose Party we wouldn't have had FDR and the New Deal. We NOW must recognize that if it wasn't for Nader and the Greens the Democrats would be a party of Republican lite. In many ways they still are, which shows they still have yet to learn the lesson.

Us leftists have to stop criticizing the fringe. If we hadn't attacked Nader he would have joined us, and all his supporters would have gladly come along. What we need to be criticizing is the DLC dinos, and blame them for the Republican majority that they caused.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:34 PM
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21. I had enormous respect for Nader pre-2004; even waivered in my GE vote in
2000.

Then he took Republican money (yes, I know he took Dem money too) and ran around screaming the DEMS were what was wrong with america.

There is no way you can convince me that he would have "joined" us; his rhetoric pointed entirely the other way.

He was once a truly admirable man speaking truth to power. Now he's a whiny loser. I've got no time for him anymore unless he owns up to his mistakes and attacks the real enemy instead of his perceived ones.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:47 PM
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19. 5 years of Bush and he's still whining about the Dems? This is so tired.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 03:49 PM by terrya
I've admired Nader...but this broken record is getting fucking old.

To see the evil of the past 5 years and just spend your time nattering on and on about any mistreatment from the Democrats is just very sad.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:21 PM
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20. Nader and Bush have the same problem...
Neither will admit to ever being wrong. Nader was wrong about the Corvair...and hasnt been right since.

Nader is close friends with Grover Norquist. Accepted money from the GOP. Was responsible for the Florida 2000 debacle.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:44 PM
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28. How the fuck would he know?
I have respect for Nader and his accomplishments, but he's a fucking idiot for saying that.
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