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carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:08 PM
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Gas Violence: It's starting......
http://www.nbc12.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WWBT%2FMGArticle%2FWBT_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031784534481

"Gas attendant attacked by angry customer"

A gas station attendant at a Lorton, Virginia Shell Station was attacked after an angry customer didn’t want to pay his fuel bill. Mohammed Butte asked the suspect to pay the $10 he owed for gas, when the man slashed him with a knife.

“He ran behind me and he said ‘I’m not paying’ and he have a knife, but I didn't see a knife and he just slashed my arm,” Butte said.

Butte suffered a two-inch-long wound to the forearm.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:12 PM
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1. Someone got killed earlier today when
a car tried to drive away without paying for 52 dollars worth of gas.
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:15 PM
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3. Can I ask in what state this happen in?
This is just sick. Thank You Bush the Nazi for destroying our Nation.
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The Great Escape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:09 AM
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14. Alabama (link)
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:33 AM
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26. I would point you to Pogo
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
Get your bicycle out, you're going to need it.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:06 AM
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13. can you post that story.
And I think HBO had a fake documentary on a scenario like this.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:13 PM
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2. MY EYES!!!!
Arrrrrrrrggg ye blinded me!!!!!!!!!!

Gyre
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:16 PM
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4. There are no words...
except for maybe, how long before the guns come out?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:17 PM
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5. awful awful
:-(
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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:23 PM
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6. lol, probably freepers
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:43 PM
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7. I went to the gas station today,
We had someone drive away, a cop posted at the station, and a line cause the computers were down at the pump, cause they can't even fricking believe the price!!!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:48 PM
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8. We are an addicted people. Take away the smack, and you get crazy
desperate crap.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:53 PM
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9. Oh, I think this is only the beginning.
This is just the prelude to the oncoming storm.

Expect to read more of this. Lots more. I"m much more concerned about people who need to heat their homes with heating oil, than I am about gas.

Our society is going through massive changes right now, and there will always be a certain portion that doesn't handle it very well.

The key to surviving is: adapt, think ahead, adapt some more and conserve.
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Llewlladdwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:11 PM
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10. On the other hand....
The guy attacked the attendant over a lousy ten bucks. Do you really think high gas prices had anything to do with this?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:53 AM
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28. Could've been the guy had been under other stresses and
the ten bucks was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Of course, this wouldn't excuse the guy for attacking the station attendant.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:31 PM
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11. Usually the violence is contained to the getting-it-away- from-developing
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 11:54 PM by 1932
naitons end of the pipeline.

How novel to pump a little of that violence out to the corner gas station along with the gas.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:53 PM
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12. So what's the point here?
If gas prices were lower and it was only $6 in gas instead of $10, then the guy wouldn't have pulled a knife?
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:39 AM
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16. The gas station attendent was ME
Maybe that had something to do with it ~

The other sad case happened when a customer drove out of the station without paying his $52 bill. The attendant chased him and was dragged by the car, then run over by an SUV and killed! :cry:

This Bush family are merchants of death. They are surrounded by agents of death ~ since Bush got into office, there has been nothing but bad, sad news for so many people ~ all over the world!! When is someone going to take the reins of this country and start the indictments before it's too late, if it isn't already!

www.pinsforpatriots.com
www.bendermandefense.com
www.talknation.org
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:22 AM
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15. Virginia and Alabama. hmmmmm....
Which Southern State will be next?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:51 AM
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29. This is why I ride my bike now.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:39 AM
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17. Hmmm...
Didn't Chris Rock predict this on the Bill Maher season opening? Seems he wasn't too far off! :)
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:46 AM
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18. People were irrational about the gas prices in 1990-91 when Poppy did it.
That's when gas broke $1 for the first time, and we all thought THAT was ridiculous. And it was. I was on the other side of the counter at the Am/Pm for that war, and I swear to God, that in the minds of most of those people, it wasn't George Bush, or Saddam Hussein, or the Arco Corporate Gods who were to blame for the price gouging. It was me.

Because I was there, so I was convenient for their wrath. And heard every last bit of it.

And this was before the whole mean spirited deep hatred developed among some people in this country. Before Limbaugh. Before FAUX. Before McVeigh. Before a lying media told you to hate and be paranoid. It's no wonder it has now reached the level of actual violence.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:47 AM
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19. Just awful. I remember when gas caps didn't even lock. The long lines
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 01:56 AM by Nothing Without Hope
for gas that suddenly appeared during the shortages many years ago changed that. People were despearate for gas, didn't want to spend time waiting in the lines, and siphoned it out. Now gas is valuable for a different reason - cash value - and violence is definitely to be expected. Not a good time to be a gas station attendent, but the Big Oil cronies of the Bush cartel are doing very, very well.

(I've added a great photoshopped photo below - IMO it's worth waiting a few extra seconds for it to load.)

"Arbusto" was the name of one of the companies Bush ran into the ground, "Arbusto Energy" - arbusto is "bush" in Spanish. So the "El Busto" on the gas pumps in the photoshopped photo is a hit. He's got his cigarette there with the gas, ready to blow everything up, par for the course. If the gas hose was where the red rag is, it would be naughty but appropriate. I love the Ethyl and Lucy. Maybe some readers here are too young to know about the "Honeymooners" TV show that's from, or even the "Put a Tiger in your tank" old gas ads that are referred to, modified to fit Bush, on the pumps.

http://www.allhatnocattle.net.nyud.net:8090/ethyl_lucy.jpg
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:59 AM
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21. Great picture! n/t
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:58 AM
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20. not to worry we have our best men on the case
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:52 AM
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30. That was fun entertaining mel, not rightwing nut job mel we have now.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:42 AM
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22. $10. ??????
A knifing over $10. has more to do with being unbalanced than "gas violence".
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:23 AM
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23. yet no msm on it??
I watched the news expecting to hear "record gas prices spawn violence, economy is starting to buckle under the pressure" :shrug: Never going to happen, is it?
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:27 AM
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25. Check out NYT
online - Two items in the sunday edition.
On the editorial page we have:

Foolishness on Fuel
Senator Dianne Feinstein offered an amendment to strengthen fuel economy standards for S.U.V.'s, minivans and pickups. When James Talent, a Missouri Republican, opposed the amendment with an argument about potential lost jobs, he drew a sharp response from Pete Domenici, the committee chairman. What's really costing jobs, Mr. Domenici said, is Detroit's failure to make the fuel-efficient cars that can compete on world markets.

Mr. Domenici then voted against Ms. Feinstein's amendment. So did most of his colleagues.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/opinion/21sun2.html?th&emc=th

And in the magazine we have:

The Breaking Point
By PETER MAASS
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/magazine/21OIL.html?pagewanted=1
The United States and China are counting on the Saudis to satisfy our growing thirst for oil. The Saudis say they can supply all our needs. Critics say that that is becoming impossible. They just might turn out to be right.
<snip>
In the political and corporate realms of the oil world, there are few incentives to be forthright. Executives of major oil companies have been reluctant to raise alarms; the mere mention of scarce supplies could alienate the governments that hand out lucrative exploration contracts and also send a message to investors that oil companies, though wildly profitable at the moment, have a Malthusian long-term future. Fortunately, that attitude seems to be beginning to change. Chevron's ''easy oil is over'' advertising campaign is an indication that even the boosters of an oil-drenched future are not as bullish as they once were.

Politicians remain in the dark. During the 2004 presidential campaign, which occurred as gas prices were rising to record levels, the debate on energy policy was all but nonexistent. The Bush campaign produced an advertisement that concluded: ''Some people have wacky ideas. Like taxing gasoline more so people drive less. That's John Kerry.'' Although many environmentalists would have been delighted if Kerry had proposed that during the campaign, in fact the ad was referring to a 50-cents-a-gallon tax that Kerry supported 11 years ago as part of a package of measures to reduce the deficit. (The gas tax never made it to a vote in the Senate.) Kerry made no mention of taxing gasoline during the campaign; his proposal for doing something about high gas prices was to pressure OPEC to increase supplies.

Husseini, for one, doesn't buy that approach. ''Everybody is looking at the producers to pull the chestnuts out of the fire, as if it's our job to fix everybody's problems,'' he told me. ''It's not our problem to tell a democratically elected government that you have to do something about your runaway consumers. If your government can't do the job, you can't expect other governments to do it for them.'' Back in the 70's, President Carter called for the moral equivalent of war to reduce our dependence on foreign oil; he was not re-elected. Since then, few politicians have spoken of an energy crisis or suggested that major policy changes are necessary to avert one. The energy bill signed earlier this month by President Bush did not even raise fuel-efficiency standards for passenger cars. When a crisis comes -- whether in a year or 2 or 10 -- it will be all the more painful because we will have done little or nothing to prepare for it.

<end>

The Maas article is quietly scary.
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bpyatt Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:40 AM
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24. I think a lot of this is the media
Picking up stories they otherwise wouldn't have reported. I'm sure there may be a slight elevation in crimes at gas stations, I don't think it's completely out of wack.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:36 AM
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27. Do you have any bleach?
I think I need to clean my brain after seeing that image.
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