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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:09 PM
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Gerecht of AEI said women's rights in Iraq didn't matter

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/08/21.html#a4553

I thought Women's rights mattered?

Apparently not to Gerecht (from the American Enterprise Institute who appeared on MTP today.

Video-WMP

Blondesense tipped me off to this clip: "Gerecht pointed out that women didn't have the right to vote in the US in 1900, and if Iraqi democracy looked like US democracy circa 1900 everyone would be thrilled. Then he said that women's social rights in Iraq is not really that important.”

Update-Atrios says: There you go. "Democracy"* an end in itself, no matter what it means for the rights of women and minorities....read on

James Wolcott says: The Shame Game... So those who think this war isn't worth fighting are shameful because of their craven indifference to women's rights while one of the leading neocon architects of the very war that Simon champions--and not just any architect, but a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and the Director of the Middle East Initiative for the Project for the New American Century--isn't that concerned that a new Iraq constitution might roll back and restrict women's freedoms, subjecting them to Islamic law....read on

Un poeta loco says: It would come as no surprise to anyone – in fact most people would agree – that the Bush administration has started to backpedal as quickly as possible on the definition of success in Iraq.
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witnessing the war against women

up yours Gerecht
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ironman202 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:13 PM
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1. whats good for the iraqis
might be good for us, right? Goodly women don't paint their faces...
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:13 PM
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2. Rationalizing has become a full time job for these idiots.
"Blondesense tipped me off to this clip: "Gerecht pointed out that women didn't have the right to vote in the US in 1900, and if Iraqi democracy looked like US democracy circa 1900 everyone would be thrilled. Then he said that women's social rights in Iraq is not really that important.”"
Their new campaign slogan should be: "Moving America Forward into the 12th Century."
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:15 PM
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3. I see he's using the ancient Greek definition of 'Democracy'
ie., Only land-owning males get a voice.

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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:30 PM
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4. And if the rest of the world were the same was as it was then...
That would be a plausible comparison. But it's not.

Voting rights for both sexes are commonly accepted now, as they were not back then, and so, this argument is a farce at best. A complete lie at the worse. I know which way I lean.

And then we think about the horrific life the women in Iraq lead. Look at the "freedom" we've brought these "people". If they're male, that is.

The only real people are male. Don't cha know.

The entire war falls on it's face. The women needed "freedom" much more than the men did, if you think about it, men aren't slaves to women as their women are to men. Virtual slaves, with no freedom to pick another religion that would allow them to live as they choose.

They have no choice. Our nation does not care. Our nation likes it's gender roles in nice, neat categories.

Girls think silly things and wear pastel colors because you KNOW they don't have a serious thought in their heads. Gender toys, gender tools, pink and purple and isn't it pretty? Now shut up and cook dinner.

Girl power, because you know, as a child is the last time you believe you HAVE or should have any power. At all. It's not feminine. Women are not powerful. Or at least...not the pretty ones. Right Rush?

Our nation is not so different. And getting closer all the time. It's on the agenda, it's just a matter of time.

Now go shave your legs. and arms. Or eveyrthing but that very important showy stuff on top of your head. Everything else must go.

Oh the bitter angry things I think, when I look at women around me, too busy playing barbie-doll dress up to worry about where the gas comes from they pump into the suv. Those most successful of women among us, those with money and influence, those who ought to be doing so much more, stepford wives now, stepford wives all. With nice hair and nails, which they pay dearly for, in money, in time, in health (cosmetics are NOT healthy ladies, think lead face paint...), and in the end, in how we look at ourselves.

Women hate war. Neocons hate women. End of story.
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