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nirvana3240 Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:19 PM
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What Bill Clinton DID, and Could Not Do, About Terrorism.
From my blog, http://teenageenthusiast.blogspot.com:

Lets play a game. You tell me who said the following quotes.

"Terrorism is the major threat to the security of Americans."

"Terrorism has become an equal opportunity destroyer with no respect for borders."

"America must act and lead. Nowhere, is that responsibility more clear or more urgent than in the struggle against terrorism. "

"Terrorism is the enemy of our generation."

Hmm.... who was it? George W. Bush? Donald Rumsfeld? Some strong willed Republican congressman?



Bzzzz. Wrong. It was Bill Clinton. Yes, Bill Clinton. But more interesting is the time frame in which these were said. No, he didn't say them in a speech, trying to act macho after September 11th. Those words are from the mid-90's. Way back then, he recognized the looming threat of terrorism.

In Fahrenheit 9/11, Michael Moore talked about how September 11th could have been prevented and how all the signs were missed by the Bush administration....yadda yadda yadda, you know the story. But when confronted with that, Republicans predictably defer the blame and say how Bush was only in office a short time, while Clinton was in the White House for 8 years. Many of them often complained during the last election, and still do, that "Democrats are weak on security", "They can't protect you, Clinton was in office for so long and didn't do anything about terrorism".... etc. Dick Cheney said Clinton's war on terror was, "totally ineffective". And one conservative blogger said, "Americans will remember Clinton's failed policies as the cause of 9/11". But lets do a fact check for a second. Is there any validity to those claims? Did George W. Bush's predecessor neglect the security of Americans? Was protecting the nation from terrorism not high enough on President Clinton's list? History says other wise.

The truth is that Bill Clinton did an incredibly large amount in regards to advancing America's defense against terror. He indeed did far more than any President before him on the topic. This is just a short list of his more notable legislative initiatives against terrorism:


* In 1995, before the Oklahoma City bombing, Bill Clinton sent anti-terrorism legislation to the congress which after the attack, was beefed up even more. The legislation asked for one thousand more anti-terrorism officials; a new counter terrorism center under the authority of the FBI; approval to use military experts to help fight terrorism (which was at the time not allowed in issues considered to be domestic in nature); the authority to conduct surveillance on terrorists as they move, so multiple court orders are not needed; and increased penalties for knowingly providing terrorists with weapons which are used against federal employees and their families. The bill was held up in congress for a large amount of time as his opponents were reluctant to pass it.

*In June 1995, he signed "Presidential Decision Directive 39" which allocated responsibilities among various government agencies for preventing and dealing with attacks.

* He made terrorism a key top of the 1996 G-7 summit. At the meeting, he proposed steps which the international community could use to better combat terrorism, 40 of which were agreed to. Among them, speeding up the prosecution of terrorists, limiting their access to high tech equipment as much as possible, and increasing efforts to seize their resources.

*In late May of 1997, Clinton outlined an approach to deter attacks from terrorist networks like Al-Qaeda, including steps to prevent and defend against assaults on power systems, water supplies, medical services, financial services, computer networks and to train more state and local officials to respond to biological attacks.

*He signed "Presidential Decision Directive 62" which created a 10-point counter-terrorism initiative and established the post for "National Coordinator For Counter-terrorism and infrastructure protection" which would be filled Richard Clarke.

* At Clinton's orders, cruise missiles were sent into Afghanistan, targeting a house where Bin Laden and other Al Qaeda figures were reportedly being held. Although Bin Laden was not killed, several people supposedly affiliated with Al Qaeda were. In the same set of military operations, he sent missiles to destroy a Sudanese chemical plant, which was successful.

*He also allocated an additional $300 million to the anti-terrorism budget in a single year. That was in addition to the $9 billion already requested. In the three years after the Oklahoma City bombing, he increased anti-terror funding a whopping 40%.

* And thanks in part to steps his administration did take, many terrorist attacks, including plots to blow up the Lincoln and Holland tunnels and multiple planes were prevented. Also thwarted were plans to detonate explosives during millennium celebrations, among others.


All of this is in addition to many small military operations and criminal prosecutions involving terrorists. That list is very incomplete. Clinton's anti-terror policies were at the time unprecedented. But with those accomplishments considered, George W. Bush did not fully grasp the magnitude of the threat in the months before 9/11 by a long shot, so how was Clinton supposed to do that all the way back in the 1990's? Given how much we knew, versus how much we did about groups like Al-Qaeda in the 90s, the steps Clinton took were extraordinary and very forward thinking. Republicans certainly did not see it coming. If you remember, George W. Bush's entire campaign in 2000 was based on the domestic front and worrying about things right here. And many people, but especially conservatives complained that "We can't be the world's police force"..... that's changed, hasn't it?

Lets face it though, Republicans would be saying these things no matter what. If Clinton went into Afghanistan, captured Osama, and September 11th still happened, "Clinton does not know how to run a war on terror." They would be criticizing him for anything less than completely stopping 9/11. Also, I'm not so sure that Clinton would have been able to go into Afghanistan anyway. I have no doubt that Republicans would have crucified him for it. The war in Bosnia and Kosovo was going on, you had the occasional flare up in tensions with Iraq, Pakistan & India were on the verge of nuclear war, North Korea was causing problems... They were complaining that the military was overstretched already, and that Clinton didn't know how to run any of it, can you imagine what would have happened if he opened up a war in Afghanistan? They would have gone head hunting. I can't reiterate enough, they themselves didn't realize the threat. The Republican controlled congress would not give Clinton the authority to go to war in Afghanistan, or anywhere else in pursuit of terrorists for that matter.... ever. As for overhauling the security and defense systems, neither the congressional, or public will was there to do the massive restructuring needed. It would have been much worse then trying to pull teeth. Why? No one understood the threat.

So when the Conservative congressmen and talk show hosts complain about how Clinton was supposedly weak on terror, just remember, hindsight is always perfect. And the Republicans of the 90's weren't exactly pushing very hard to increase our security. In fact, it could be said they were pushing against it.

You must read this:
http://www.usconsulate.org.hk/pas/pr/1996/0806b.htm


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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:22 PM
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1. Pretty clear to me
Clinton was trying to do something about terrorism, and Bush ignored it until 9/11.

Clinton built up an immense amount of respect for American among most Muslims by stopping the genocide in Bosnia, and Bush pissed that all away.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:20 PM
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16. Except for the ones that blew up the embassies in Kenya and
Tanzania. The guys that blew up the USS Cole weren't pleased with us either.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:24 PM
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2. Clinton said this and also warned the new Bush administration...
...about it and Bush chose to ignore the warnings until 9-11.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:25 PM
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3. great post. nt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:27 PM
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4. This is a very important point
which needs dissemination way beyond the DU.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:24 PM
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6. Enjoy your stay :)
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:31 AM
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8. Excellent post!
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nirvana3240 Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:55 PM
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17. no problem.
Just doin my job, sir.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:59 AM
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9. Excellent post!
Also, another way the Republicas (specifically the Bush administration) ignored the growing terrorism threat was by completely blowing off the findings of the Hart/Rudman commission when Bush first entered office in 2001-

http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/12/bush/
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:04 AM
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10. Excellent post! Thank you!
This sort of quality information is why I am a DUer. Thank you so much for posting it Nirvana3240.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:12 AM
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11. Clinton had to fight Terrorism throughout his two terms...
He had to fight right-wing-nut job "Christians" at Waco when Freeper-esque whackos murdered federal law enforcement officers, barricaded themselves in to a compund and then burned themselves (including children) to death.

He had to capture the Freeper's favorites, McVeigh and Nichols after they killed more then 180 in Oklahoma City to protest Waco and bring attention to their "smaller government, anti-Washington" demands (similar to the GOP campaign platform).

He had to deal with the Freeper's best friend, Eric Rudolph who bombed gay bars, abortion clinics and the (Globalistic) Olympic games.

All of this after Clinton investigated and captured the first World Ttrade center bombers, a plot planned and enabled in the first Bush admin and carried out only a few weeks after Clinton took office.

Clinton spent a lot of time fighting terrorists. The right wing has been supplying them for a long time.
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:08 PM
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12. Bush and 9/11
Clinton did an admirable job fighting terrorism while in office, the economy was booming, his poll ratings were high, and he could ride a bike without falling off. For these reasons and more, the Republicans hate (and hated) him.

One fact they can never change: the biggest terrorist event in our country happened on Bush's watch, and he was given fair warnings about it ahead of time. All the spin in the world won't change that fact.

This is why they hate Clinton, too. Clinton dealt effectively with terrorist threats and Bush didn't, it's as simple as that.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:18 PM
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13. That is a
GREAT POST. Thanks for putting all the info in one place. I'm sure there are other good summaries of this elsewhere as well. We need to find it all and share it.

"Bush was warned, he ignored it, and it happened on his watch" was exactly what i told my co-worker when he tried to hand me a Rush Limbaugh article about how 9/11 was all Clinton's fault.

I'm telling you, the stench is really beginning to get to me.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 03:10 PM
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14. VERY good one-sentence response.
"bush was warned, he ignored it, and it happened ON HIS WATCH."

Man, if there EVER was something we need to repeat, this is it.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:00 PM
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15. I tell them the Stolen Election caused 9/11
The simple truth is that President Clinton had help with terrorism.

The "multiple planes" plot was foiled because we were tipped off by Jordanian Intelligence.

The rest of the world saw that the Stolen Election took the (formerly) American People out of the loop. It has never been lost on them that US public opinion has been the greatest force for good on this planet for the past 100 years. Now that was no longer operable. That made us fair game.

Do you think other intelligence agencies were as eager to help the election thief (and appointed ruler) bushkid as they were the much-admired peacemaker (and elected leader), Bill Clinton??

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eauclaireliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:31 PM
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18. You are misguided (sarcasm)
The things Clinton did against terrorism didn't have a profit motive involved...therefore, it is not considered effective counter-terrorism measures.

This country has NEVER fought a war for reasons other than making a buck.

WWII? Get real. The U.S. didn't get involved until AFTER we were hit by the Japs, and the European movements were nothing more than protection of white German and Austrian industrialists. Think of anti-semitic fucks like Henry Ford, but who hadn't made it to America (Let's not forget Prescott Bush's business holdings in Europe).

Korea? Nothing makes a man like Joe-Drunk McCarthy a hotshot like a war against evil commies. Its always good to have a safe hiding spot when you want to spy on Russia. "What? Human rights for South Koreans? Who gives a fuck? We have anti-communist propoganda to concentrate on; it's essential for the defense industry."

Vietnam? Poppie fields. Heroin is big bucks. It helps when appropriation committees won't cough up $500 Million for a metric wingnut.

Central America? "Hey, Mr. Noriega is keepin' us from all that cocaine folks...gotta get rid of that commie sonofabitch."

Gulf War? "Hey, Mr. Hussein is keepin' us from all that awl folks...gotta get rid of that commie sonofabitch."

Opearion Iraqi Liberation? "Hey, Mr. ____________ is keepin' us from all that awl folks...gotta get rid of that commie sonofabitch."

No profit motive, all you have is a destroyed aspirin factory.

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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:03 PM
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19. may i borrow this? be happy to attribute it. tia eom
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nirvana3240 Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 10:48 PM
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20. Looks like conservatives have stolen our thread...
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