Picture the most right wing person you know...

[Nightjock]

Someone who voted for bush twice.

Someone who has argued in favor of the Iraq war everytime you spoke to them. (Despite you citing various facts about how bush lied to get us into it)

Someone who thinks most Dems are"whining, taxing, do nothing pu----s"

Someone who thinks our borders should be closed and says all illegal immigrants should be immediatly deported.


For me, his name is Paul.

He called me this morning and said "If bush says 'Stay the course' one more time I'm going to shoot myself! We have to get the fuck out now. I swear if it was election day today, I would stay home."

That is an exact quote! Paul is (was) the biggest, most blind rightwinger I ever met in my life. I never, EVER thought I would hear him say that.

You are toast bush! If you lost Paul, you are losing everyone except your immedaite family!

You lying, fuckwad, murdering scumbag!

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Great story, thx!

[NewJeffCT]

2. I joined DU in October of 2003

and, I'm guessing that every day from Oct of 2003 to election day 2004, I heard stories about big time, true-blue, right wing Republicans deciding to vote for Kerry.

However, when it came down to "crunch" time, they ended up voting Bush because Kerry has been so effectively demonized as a weak on defense, flip-flopping political opportunist.

[satya]

9. Or maybe they did..have you read Mark Crispin Miller & the Conyers report?

...not to mention the research by our own DU Elections forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203

None dare call it stolen - Ohio, the election, and America's servile press
by Mark Crispin Miller, summarized by Mary Anne Saucier, Columbus, Ohio
July 24, 2005

While commentators, prompted by Republicans, claimed Bush won the 2004 election through the votes of a silent majority concerned with “family values,” Mark Crispin Miller writes that when voters were asked to state, “in their own words the most important factor in their vote,”only 14 percent named “moral values.” He details how the press (except for Keith Olbermann on MSNBC) ignored “the strange details of the election—except, that is, to ridicule all efforts to discuss them…It was as if they were reporting from inside a forest fire without acknowledging the fire, except to keep insisting that there was no fire.”

Then he lists the copious evidence pointing to a stolen election, easily available on the web or in paperback, from Michigan Representative John Conyers’ report, Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio. More than dirty tricks, it covers “the run-up to the election, the election itself, and the post-election cover-up,” listing “specific violations of the U.S. and Ohio constitutions, the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act of 1968, the National Voter Registration Act, and the Help America Vote Act.”

The Conyers report details the disenfranchisement of Democrats through “intentional misconduct and illegal behavior, much of it involving Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, the co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio.”

Complete summary here:
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1383

The Conyers Report: What Went Wrong in Ohio

[tavalon]

29. Or maybe they did

and Diebold just helped them back to where they "should" have been.

[dogday]

3. Way To Go Paul!

Better late than never.... Now you understand that * is a waste product....

[StudentOfDarrow]

4. Paul made the right choice.

In January or so, a friend of mine who is EXTREMELY conservative said to me that she is afraid Bush is going to draft her sixteen year old son. People are starting to finally get it.

[KyndCulture]

5. For me it's my boyfriends mother...

unless the "gays and abortion thing" goes away she will NEVER say this...

[Not Me]

6. IT's amazing that there is still 36% who support him.

nt

[Mich Otter]

7. I'll nominate this message

[LetsGoMurphys]

8. My cousin

After voting for Bush and being quite vocal has changed his registration to democrat.

[vickitulsa]

10. For me it's my mother

who is 82 and a Christian, so she has stuck by him as he talked the talk of a Christian. What she is finally seeing -- and this even though her memory and mind are not what they used to be -- is that he has lied, and now he's lying to cover up for his previous lies!

My dad would have been more skeptical about GWB, but he died in 1999, so Mom did not feel his influence on her thinking as she has all her life preceding. She bought into W's deceptions wholesale, and IMO mostly because after 9/11 her lifelong patriotic stance as a WWII vet's wife and one who was an actual Rosie Riveter hardened into something I rarely have seen in my mom: aggression.

Now as she sees so many American soldiers becoming casualties of a war she can no longer understand, she has completely turned around in her estimation of GWB. It was just a few months ago that I saw she was beginning to doubt him, but since then she has whirled around and taken a stand so strongly AGAINST him I'm amazed!

Listen up, W! If my mother is now against you, you have lost one of the most trusting, earnest souls who ever once backed you!

And what's most surprising is that I didn't even "work on" my mom to get her to see the light. She came to these conclusions on her own.

~VV

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[spuddonna]

21. Yay for your mom! :)

I feel bad for a lot of these people because I feel like the 2000/2004 elections were two of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on our country. A lot of people fell for the con hook, line and sinker...

My biggest worry is now that the weasels have been discovered, what will they do to keep power? :(

[ihaveaquestion]

11. Too bad the election was in November! n/t

[La Coliniere]

12. Hope there's a

Domino Effect of sorts.

[gasperc]

13. 180,000 stayed home in the Ohio second

It was kept out of the MSM but the real story IS that only 120,000 people showed up in the special election. It is true that special elections have terrible turnout.

BUT, and a very big BUT here, this race had national attention. Both sides spent millions and people in the second needed to be living under a rock to miss the election.

Yet, 180,000 people that voted in 2004 stayed home in August. That's like 65% of the total from Nov. If just 10% of GOP voters stay home in Nov. 06, I can't imagine a scenario where they cling to enough seats to hold the majority.

[whatever4]

14. Too cool!! Thanks for sharing that nm

[sepia_steel]

15. I'm picturing him

and he hasn't budged. In fact he left early yesterday. He was irritated when it was pointed to to him that an Islamic Constitution would mean women in Iraq would have no rights. "Freedom and progress for everyone!" I yelled, smiling. He couldn't counter, so he walked out. *snark*

This guy is incapable of separating what's going on from BIBLE PROPHESY. It's the only viewpoint he sees it from. He believes that we basically have higher moral standards than other countries and that we have the right to invade other countries and change them. God has given us devine right ot weild swrods for him, or something like that. A "Christian" who admits to being "borderline white supremacist". Bush is a man of God. ETC ETC ETC

WHY?!?! do people lap this shit up like such mindless lemmings?

FEAR. And *we're* the p*ssies?

[merbex]

16. Getting him to stay home is as good as a vote for our guy

I wish a lot of repugs felt like this if they feel they can't abandon the Repug Party

[AmBlue]

17. Just yesterday....

I flipped over to see what the AM Radio reich wing spew du jour was and was SHOCKED to hear talk jock Steve Austin (WBZZ Radio 1010) St. Petersburg, Florida.... (nobody noteworthy, but STILL...) saying LIVE, on the radio: "I'm one of the most rabid, right-wing guys out there, and if Bush has lost me, he's in trouble." He was griping about oil prices and the war. I almost cried. It's happening, folks.

[LetsGoMurphys]

19. MIchael Smerconish is wavering as well.

Albeit he is not as crazy as most of the right wing radio nut jobs. I think what is bothering these people the most is the harsh reality that we may have created a theocracy.

[flygal]

18. recommended

My mom had a "Paul" convert - a regular customer - came in her store saying * is ruining this country b/c of his social security plan and Iraq is a mess.

36% - and sinking.

[Pachamama]

20. Your friend doesn't live in Michigan by any chance? The most right wing

person I know is named Paul too and he lives in Michigan....

He says the exact things that your Paul says....and the biggest, most blind rightwinger I ever met....

Hmmm....

[GreenPartyVoter]

22. :^)

[deutsey]

23. For me, his name is Larry.

Told me a couple weeks ago that he took down his Bush/Cheney bumpersticker in his cubicle.

For him, he said CAFTA finally turned him against Bush...says Bush is only out for the wealthy corporate elites. However, when another anti-Bush friend and I started pointing out all the crap Bush has wrought (Iraq, chief among them), Larry didn't disagree with us.

:evilgrin:

[Robeysays]

24. thats miles, in my book.

still really blind working on it though. he is 18 and i asked him to join up with me, you know (if you join i'll join), said no... yellow college republican.

[Scout1071]

25. For me, her name is Grandma.

And she has come around big-time.

[CrispyQ]

26. For me it's my mom.

She voted for boosh both times & at Christmas was still a boosh lover. Then the whole Terry Shiavo spectacle happened & she said she is very pissed at all the religion he is letting into government. I couldn't hold my tongue. I reminded her that he courted them during his campaign & why is she surprised? She said she would probably never vote again. Good, Mom, stay home! Your vote is killing our country!

[StudentOfDarrow]

27. Nominated. nt

[hippiegranny]

28. feel good post of the day!

thanks for sharing.

[LetsGoMurphys]

30. I bet in many cases we

see that all these bush voters dont say much of anything these days

[TankLV]

31. Good for him - but too late for us.

Tell him to put his money where his mouth is and stay home next election, if he doesn't plan to vote Democratic.

Platitudes are easy. WE are paying the price of HIS stupidity!

I would politely say: Put up or shut up. Vote Democratic next time around or stay home. If you don't, you're just another phoney repuke asshole who wants and needs to be "right" even when you are screwing the rest of us!

[AAARRRGGGHHH]

32. I know my guy, but I can't really picture him ...

He's the one with his head constantly stuck up his ass, so it's tough to get a good description.