What's the DU consensus: ARE WE GOING TO ATTACK IRAN??

[growlypants]

I think Bush is totally outta his mind and does whatever Cheyney tells him to do, and I think Cheyney wants to bomb Iran. What do you guys think?

[FtWayneBlue]

1. I am afraid you might be right.

They may be readying a "nookyooler" option even as we crawl under the covers tonight. But I hope not. I hope that all the anti-war sentiments being publicized recently will make them hesitate to go that route.

[vicman]

2. This question

has been weighing upon my mind of late. This analysis by Billmon is extremely cogent, and more than just a bit frightening:

http://billmon.org/archives/002099.html

and it doesn't help that Scott Ritter believes plans are already made. He wasn't right about the invasion starting in July, but he's been right about every other damn thing regarding Shrub's adventure in the Middle East.

Here's Ritter's take:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9199.htm

[growlypants]

9. Scary

[Raster]

3. I think that China and Russia might have severe words with bushco*

over attacking Iran. In fact, I believe they already have. It should be apparent to everyone, especially the assholes in DC that the rest of the world is not going to sit quietly by and let bushco* steer us all toward nuclear annihilation. We are the rouge state now. If we continue to threaten world peace, we will be dealt with.

[cdsilv]

6. ..I live in a military community....

...and have heard from many who have been to Iraq and back, as well as others that the military has long-term plans in the region. I haven't heard about nukes, but they have mentioned that invasion routes from Iraq to Iran have been plotted and that they were told to expect a long term commitment.

They also know its about Oil, but don't know what else we can do to
keep up the status quo - they're soldiers, sailors and pilots and do what they are told.

But they're not too happy about it.

But there are some who are gung-ho ... I hesitate to say more.

[Raster]

17. the military may have long-term plans for that region, but so does China,

Russia, India and Iran. The United States has assumed that the other powers would just roll over and let the US have their way with the region. Not anymore. The US badly tipped their hand when against all counsel we invaded Iraq. Irregardless of all the rah-rah patriotic bullshit being forcefed to US citizens, the rest of the world swallowed very little of it. US motives were in question from day one. And sad to say, the naysayers appear to be right. bushco* has taken us down a very, very dangerous road. We used to have friends and safe harbors down that road. No more.

[Booster]

23. And we thought the Bay Of Pigs was frightening. A walk in the

park compared to pissing off Russia AND China. If Bush nukes Iran pre-emptively, we can certainly expect someone to nuke us. These are really dangerous times and we have a president whose IQ is the same as his belt size. From now on, I want an IQ test for presidential candidates; no one with a grade C can run, period, and that would include Kerry, since apparently Bush got better grades that he did.

[Raster]

25. I don't mind a "C" student running and winning. I just want someone with

commmon sense and no "daddy" issues.

[marmar]

4. I think they definitely want to...

but how can we? Our military is stretched so thin I don't know that we could attack Bermuda right now.

[90-percent]

5. Pride

I want to be a proud citizen of the first country in history to use a nuclear weapon offensively.

Now that's pre-emptive war with STYLE!

-85%

[longship]

8. Hence, the noocyooler option.

One doesn't need an army if you're gonna fight the war with noocyooler tipped tomahawks.

[growlypants]

11. One word....DRAFT

[F101VooDoo]

7. ATTACK IRAN??" why not ?

Actually attacking Iran would make a whole lot more sense than invading Iraq. Iran has shown much more potential aggression to the US and it definitely wants to develop nuclear capability. I realize that this is not a popular position to take in the DU but that is the essence of being democratic I can think for myself and I do.

[vicman]

10. "Pro-war"

are we?

[F101VooDoo]

18. Not pro this Iraq war

I believe that this Iraq war was folly and based upon either lies or false assumptions or both. Let's talk theory: If we were not already fully involved in Iraq and if "too stupid to be president" was able to think this through he and his gang of neo can artists would realize that a hard surgical strike against Iran would be able to take out their nuclear capabilities and hand they a message at the same time. But that would be an intelligent and ballsy move which this administration does not have either of.

[rwheeler31]

13. Someone needs to test those expensive new

small nukes, give the job to the vp. The prez needs a nap.

[growlypants]

14. "wants to develop nuclear capability"

I want to have a million dollars, but I dont have it. Should we attack a country simply because they WISH to have something?? And why shouldnt they be allowed to have a nuclear weapon??? We "allow" Pakistan to have nukes, and if thats not a terrorist sponsoring state, I dont know what is. Who are we to tell a soverign country what they can and cant have?? What if the world gets together and decides that WE shouldnt have nuclear weapons??? Would you say its ok for them to attack us and take OUR weapons of mass destruction??? And remember....we have NOT ONLY nukes, but chemical weapons, biological weapons and godknows whatelse.

[barb162]

27. I agree. There was never a reason for attacking Iraq.

And Iran did show more potential for aggression.But I don't think he should (have) invade Iran (or Iraq). But monkey still has no troops to do it, that is, Iraq. If he does a draft, all hell will break loose, I think, because then the rich Republican kids may get stuck fighting there and getting killed. And most rich GOP types who support monkey now because of all their tax breaks don't like that idea that THEIR kids might get nailed. That's what poor people are for.

(PS Write what you think whether it's popular or not; new ideas are needed here. You might get spammed but it gets very boring around here when all you have is a bunch of people saying "yeah dude" back and forth to each other all the time because everyone is on the same wave length.)

Oh, and welcome

[Emendator]

12. Yes

Bush will probably attack Iran next year. There aren't enough troops to invade and occupy it, but there will probably be an aerial campaign. Who knows where that will lead. Nowhere good.

[Coastie for Truth]

15. No. Venezuela.

1. They have oil.

2. They are closer.

3. Pat Robertson wants to.

4. Chavez is "joined at the hip" with Castro.

That will win the support of the Elian Gonzales crowd in Florida - and Jeb.

5. Why not.

6. Our Civil Affairs Officers won't have to learn Farsi or Arabic -- just Spanish.

[barb162]

29. 5. why not? bwa!

hi Coastie

Still, where would he get the troops. It reminds me of "Animal House" where Belushi says "okay, let's go" and everyone is just sitting there looking at him dejected because they were just put on double secret probation.

[growlypants]

16. I think they will wait until AFTER the '06 election, cuz this will be

the death knell for the republican party. And I dont know how they'll do this without a draft. Maybe they'll just NUKE em. WE're doomed.

[OKDem08]

19. That would be totally insane

unless, of course, another major terrorist incident occured w/in US borders. That is the only way I could see the administration getting away w/an attack on Iran.

[Patrick_Star]

20. Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, France

Anything's possible with commander cuckoo-bananas in charge (Homer).

[blondeatlast]

21. It's insane for them to do it. Guaranteed they will. nt

[barb162]

22. No way in hell. No troops. Period. End of story

[Cocoa]

24. No

Iran is too strong to defeat, and there's too much oil there for us to destroy the country. The oil companies won't let them do it.

[sakabatou]

26. Sooner or later, it seems that we will.

[McCamy Taylor]

28. No, cause * wants UN support this time and UN will just say "No."

[rniel]

30. Yes! Right after they DIEBOLD the 2006 Election

it's right on schedule.