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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:13 AM
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Sen. George Allen as the GOP 2008 candidate?
Anybody know anything about this guy? I read this article in Macleans about him:

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/world/article.jsp?content=20050822_110860_110860

and it's really the first I've heard of him or his presidential ambitions.

Maybe there's something to this. Oftentimes candidates are folks who are pretty obscure until they make their bid. (e.g. how many people were familiar with Clinton in 1989 or Dubya in 1997?)
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:18 AM
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1. He's well known in Washington.
He's a former Virginia governor, and the son of the beloved former Redskins coach of the same name.

He is also a totally unlikeable Republican jackass of the worst kind. He is a complete prick, a freeper, and a horrible person.

That was redundant, but you get the idea.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:48 AM
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14. He appears to be incredibly stupid
Dumb as a post is what I usually think when I see him.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:19 AM
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2. He's a well known racist in va... so of corse he gets elected gov & sen
kept a noose hanging in a tree outside his law office

http://gotv.blogspot.com/2005/06/is-george-allen-racist.html
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:23 AM
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3. He has an IQ in the same range
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 10:24 AM by LibDemAlways
as the current WH occupant.

He's another guy named George who has traded on his famous father's name to further his political ambitions.

Oh, and he has a long history of racism dating back to his days as a high school student in Southern California, where he spraypainted his lily white suburban school with anti-white graffiti to make it look like the work of blacks. He was caught and had to publically apologize. Later went on to display a noose in his law office and a confederate battle flag in his living room.

I went to high school with Allen and have been in touch with a Virginia based reporter who is doing a lot of research. It's his belief that the racial stuff will ultimately sink him.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:27 AM
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5. Get in touch with one of my friends at the virginia pilot...
Lon Wagner
Scott Harper
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:40 AM
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12. Thanks, I will.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:27 AM
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6. Definitely a dingbat; I saw him interviewed once and was aghast
He was incapable of any response that wasn't well rehearsed, and he couldn't follow the logic of the interviewer at all. Amazing.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:29 AM
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8. that's my impression
he is REALLY stupid. Another challenge for the GOP media whores
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:23 AM
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4. He's my senator
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 10:25 AM by VADem11
His dad was the coach of the redskins and he somehow managed to get elected to the state legislature and then Congress. He was redistricted out but became governor by defeating a dem with a terrible campaign. His signature accomplishments were abolishing parole and standardized testing (the SOL's). He also supported confederate heritage month and displayed a confederate flag in his home. Also had a noose but claimed it was supposed to be a lasso. Barely beat Sen. Robb in 2000. He is extremely conservative, stupid, and has one of those faux accents similar to Bush. They are very similar and I think he has a chance to win the nomination. That is if Warner or some other dem doesn't knock him out.
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:28 AM
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7. I remember him in Bolton's hearing...
... the one where Voinovych pulled his support. Allen was the one who compared the democrats request for close door procedues to discuss security issues to his time as DA and sexual victims testifying. He said this could be dealt with compassionately and wouldn't hurt Bolton. Kerry had to point out its not to protect Bolton but to protect the classfied sources that would be referenced in the testimony they would be covering. Real Dumbass. Good old boy kinda speaker but not the sharpest tool in the shed. Remind you of anyone.


AValdoux
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:31 AM
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9. He's been rumored to have the itch for a while now
as far as running in '08.

FWIW, My impression of him....
He uses the name dropper trick at every opportunity (his dad being coach)
He talks like a used car salesman replete with focus group tested phraseology
Stands at the edge of the cliff on the "conservative" side of the political line and doesn't give a shit about concerns of anyone standing to his left
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:33 AM
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10. Good chance...
He 's the type that appeals to a large proportion of Repubs...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:35 AM
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11. Yes he is.... SWEET NECTAR OF LIBERTY!!!!!!!!
Allen said it AGAIN on Wednesday January 26th the year of our lord 2005

Condi Rice’s confirmation hearing
1/19/05
http://allen.senate.gov/?c=story&t=press&story=2005011961776.859375

Because of President Reagan's steadfast determination, hundreds of millions of people tasting that sweet nectar of liberty in central Europe are now friends and allies," said Senator Allen.

On the 2004 election
10/10/2004
http://www.vote-smart.org/speech_detail.php?speech_id=69507
Ronald Reagan's election changed the dynamic of the Cold War from one of containment and co-existence to the advancement of freedom. As a result, hundreds of millions of people in Central Europe, once behind the Iron Curtain, now taste the sweet nectar of liberty, have joined NATO, and are true friends and allies.

Senator Allen's Tribute to President Reagan
June 8, 2004
http://www.nrsc.org/nrscweb/newsdesk/articles/401.shtml

But President Reagan believed the blessings of liberty must not be bestowed only on a few nations and only to those blessed to be born on free soil; Ronald Reagan, with the strength of his convictions, exported and advanced democracy to continents, countries, and people yearning to taste the sweet nectar of libert.



GOVERNOR ALLEN SELECTED AS "JEFFERSON SCHOLAR"
August 28, 1998
http://www.alec.org/viewpage.cfm?pgname=3.1aa56

He also pointed to North Korea, China, Iraq, Cuba and other countries where "there are people who have never truly tasted freedom's sweet nectar.

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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:41 AM
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13. I believe he's the Senator who had never heard or read about the..
900 million missing from Iraq. A reporter wrote a story about asking him about it last year and Allen didn't know what he was talking about. (I can't remember the name of the writer at the moment).
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:03 AM
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15. Another fake cowboy, that's about par for the course nt
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:11 AM
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16. A racist dumbass as the GOP candidate
As I recall, in addition to the rebel flag and noose in his office, he also kept a spitoon there (he chews tobacco) and like Dubya, passes himself off as a good ol' boy complete with cowboy boots, a can of snuff in his back pocket, and speaks in a language composed entirely of football metaphors. This from a son of privilege raised in S California and who studied law at the U of Virginia.

There's a good discussion of this nitwit here http://markschmitt.typepad.com/decembrist/2005/05/a_tough_questio.html

I think one poster at that site summed it up pretty well: "My feeling, listening to Allen, is that he is deliberately casting himself as the heir to George W.- an inarticulate, tongue-tied simpleton whose butchered English appeals to the Republican anti-intellectualism."

More on Allen:
http://www.portlandphoenix.com/features/other_stories/multi3/documents/04798310.asp
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