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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:13 PM
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Abu Ghraib interview with Janis Karpinski by Marjorie Cohn and wow
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/082405Z.shtml

Abu Ghraib General Lambastes Bush Administration
By Marjorie Cohn
t r u t h o u t | Report

Wednesday 24 August 2005

I had been hesitant to speak out before because this Administration is so vindictive. But now I will ... Anybody who confronts this Administration or Rumsfeld or the Pentagon with a true assessment, they find themselves either out of a job, out of their positions, fired, relieved or chastised. Their career comes to an end.
-- Janis Karpinski, interview with Marjorie Cohn, August 3, 2005

Army Reserve Brigadier General Janis Karpinski was in charge of the infamous Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq when the now famous torture photographs were taken in fall of 2003. She was reprimanded and demoted to Colonel for her failure to properly supervise the prison guards. Karpinski is the highest ranking officer to be sanctioned for the mistreatment of prisoners. On August 3, 2005, I interviewed Janis Karpinski. In the most comprehensive public statement she has made to date, Karpinski deconstructs the entire United States military operation in Iraq with some astonishing revelations.

When Karpinski got to Abu Ghraib, "there was a completely different story than what we were being told in the United States. It was out of control. There weren't enough soldiers. Nobody had the right equipment. They were driving around in unarmored vehicles, some of them without doors ... So, knowing that they were ill-equipped and ill-prepared, they pushed them out anyway, because those two three-stars wanted their fifteen minutes of fame, I suppose."

Karpinski said that General Shinseki briefed Rumsfeld that "he can't win this war, if they insist on invading Iraq, he can't win this war with less than 300,000 soldiers." Rumsfeld reportedly ordered Shinseki to go back and find a way to do this with 125,000 to 130,000, but Shinseki came back and said they couldn't do the job with that number. "What did Rumsfeld do?" Karpinski asked rhetorically. "If you can't agree with me, I'm going to find somebody who can. He made Shinseki a lame duck, for all practical purposes, and brought in Schoomaker. And Schoomaker got it. He said, 'Oh yes sir, we can do this with 125,000.'"

Karpinski says she did not know about the torture occurring in Cellblocks 1-A and 1-B at Abu Ghraib because it took place at night. She didn't live at Abu Ghraib, and nobody was permitted to travel at night due to the dangerous road conditions. The first she heard about the torture was on January 12, 2004. She was never allowed to speak to the people who had worked on the night shift. She "was told by Colonel Warren, the JAG officer for General Sanchez, that they weren't assigned to me, that they were not under my control, and I really had no right to see them."

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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:24 PM
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1. Rumsfeld's attitude was classic: ignore the facts and find a yes-man
You know, if you are going to run a baseless and illegal war, the least you could do is run it well. Rumsfeld's ignorance and poor planning discredited this war more than an army of Cindy Sheehans.

If the Dems are going into 2008 as (once again) the "macho war party", they need to point out this administration's incompetence. Wes Clark actually did this successfully on CNN as he watched the first troops scurry toward Baghdad, leaving themselves totally vulnerable from behind. Show the stupidity of sending in only half of the troops necessary. Show the stupidity of not listening to the experts.

This could actually help the moral movement against this war: our troops are dying because of Rumsfeld's poor planning.
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