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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:53 PM
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how likey do you think the sedition act will come back?
Accoridng to Michael Savage last night, he believes that the sedition act should be enforced since we are at "war". Now didn't the sedition act back in the early 1920's arrerst people and have people deported from, this country for speaking out against the governemnt?
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:00 PM
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1. Grr... BushCo really makes me mad.
How would they deport 2/3 of the country? It's more likely that their stupidity will earn them the needle. Man, I hope Fitzgerald is worth his pay.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:00 PM
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2. WHAT WAR ?!?!?!
Iraq is an OCCUPATION, NOT A WAR.

The global "War on Terror" ?

That, is a style of fighting, you may as well wage war on guerilla warfare, or have a war on the blitzkrieg style of war. We ILLEGALLY invaded a sovereign nation, and are forcing our policies upon them. We now OCCUPY that nation. The people fighting back are rebelling against an occupying power.

Sadly all it will take is another terrorist attack to make telling the truth illegal in this country.
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:03 PM
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4. I agree
However I am just repeating what Michael Savage said.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:02 PM
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3. Palmer Raids.
The Palmer Raids used the Sedition Act.

Fear of Dissent
A. Mitchell Palmer

The Case Against the "Reds"

A powerful reaction against "radicalism" in various forms swept the country immediately after the end of the war. One of the leading progenitors and sponsors of the "Red Scare" was the Attorney General of the United States, who summarizes his fears of Bolshevism and his methods of extirpating it.

SOURCE. A Mitchell Palmer, "The Case Against the 'Reds,'" Forum (1920), 63:173- 185.

In this brief review of the work which the Department of Justice has undertaken, to tear out the radical seeds that have entangled American ideas in their poisonous theories, I desire not merely to explain what the real menace of communism is, but also to tell how we have been compelled to clean up the country almost unaided by any virile legislation. Though I have not been embarrassed by political opposition, I have been materially delayed because the present sweeping processes of arrests and deportation of seditious aliens should have been vigorously pushed by Congress last spring. The failure of this is a matter of record in the Congressional files.
http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/hist409/palmer.html

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USApalmerR.htm
In 1919 Woodrow Wilson appointed A. Mitchell Palmer as his attorney general. Palmer recruited John Edgar Hoover as his special assistant and together they used the Espionage Act (1917) and the Sedition Act (1918) to launch a campaign against radicals and left-wing organizations.

Worried by the revolution that had taken place in Russia, Palmer became convinced that Communist agents were planning to overthrow the American government. His view was reinforced by the discovery of thirty-eight bombs sent to leading politicians and the Italian anarchist who blew himself up outside Palmer's Washington home. Palmer recruited John Edgar Hoover as his special assistant and together they used the Espionage Act (1917) and the Sedition Act (1918) to launch a campaign against radicals and left-wing organizations.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:06 PM
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5. Who is Michael Savage?
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:08 PM
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6. a right wing, racisits, extremist talkshow host.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:17 PM
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8. Ironically
he released a book titled "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" mere weeks before a study in Britain proved that conservatism was a mental disorder. I forget how it was phrased but I believe it contained the words paranoid, regressive mindset, fear of change, lack of empathy, etc.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:33 PM
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7. very probable
They're basically extrajudicially enforcing such now. They'll make it official as cover to launch it on a grander scale.
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