The Ethics of Iraq: Moral Strength vs. Material Strength

[PeteNYC]

The unbridgeable divide between the left and right’s approach to Iraq and the WoT is, among other things, a disagreement over the value of moral and material strength, with the left placing a premium on the former and the right on the latter. The right (broadly speaking) can’t fathom why the left is driven into fits of rage over every Abu Ghraib, every Gitmo, every secret rendition, every breach of civil liberties, every shifting rationale for war, every soldier and civilian killed in that war, every Bush platitude in support of it, every attempt to squelch dissent. They see the left's protestations as appeasement of a ruthless enemy. For the left (broadly speaking), America’s moral strength is of paramount importance; without it, all the brute force in the world won’t keep us safe, defeat our enemies, and preserve our role as the world’s moral leader....

http://daoureport.salon.com/synopsis.aspx?synopsisId=8d187cda-6e7c-46bc-af30-fcb819c848a1

[LeftyElvis]

1. We don't have any "enemies"...

we are the enemy; immoral rampant capitalism and the exploitation of the poor all over the world. The rest of the world wants us brought down, we are takers, not givers and we deserve the scorn we are getting.

[PeteNYC]

2. Everybody has enemies

And when you say "we are the enemy," are you speaking for yourself as well? And for me?

[LeftyElvis]

3. Some rhetoric

of course, but I believe the US, under these clowns in Congress and of course the redefeated admin is a force for greed and mischief.