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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:48 PM
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Now I have heard everything. Limpballs just said that our soldiers,
those that do not support Bush, can no longer be trusted to help those that support Bush win this war.

Okay, send all the liberals home and fill their spots with neocons kids since they are so trustworthy.

Also, are you sitting down? Limpballs said "Christopher Hitchens" is a Lib.

He blames Robertson for allowing everyone on the left to misinterpret his words and allowed the left to call the right and Christians to be liars and bigots.

Does the EIB Network do random Drug testing? They need to. Rush Limpballs talks so fast anymore (without breathing),
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:49 PM
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1. Limpballs is a has-been! n/t
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:52 PM
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6. He's last year's diahrrea...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:53 PM
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8. I think yo're right
It's starting to sound like flop sweat.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:00 PM
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22. As disgusting as that sounds, and as fitting it would be toward Limpballs,
just exactly what does that mean? I've only had like 3 hours sleep in the last 2 days????????
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:19 AM
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49. It's a show business term
It's kind of a terminal downward spiral when a comic realizes no one is laughing at his/her jokes. The more he/she tries, the more desperate he/she comes off, and the whole thing becomes pathetic and embarrassing.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:54 PM
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20. Well, I think he is a has been; however, he just signed like a 5-year-deal
for over 200 million bucks.

It's people like him and Hannity and Savage that keep the fires burning. Without their constant put downs, out-and-out lying, and twisting anything that is said to be favorable for the right, there will never be any peace between the two parties. That is their reason for existing . . . create turmoil, create anger, even hate toward a particular political candidate. They do their jobs well.

Hate radio has made Limpballs a very rich man.

I cannot take him anymore. He totally disgusts me.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:25 PM
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58. Neal Boortz about how great a national sales tax would be.
He's out of Atlanta. In an article in the Atlanta Journal/Constitution, he admitted he doesn't file his own taxes, knows nothing about current tax code, and DOESN'T EVEN BALANCE HIS OWN CHECKBOOK!!!!!!

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:57 PM
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35. No, he's a NEVER WAS! nt
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:29 PM
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59. Actually, you could be correct!
I saw a commentary reprinted from the L.A. Times (I do not have a link, I apologize) that said both limbaugh and that-guy-whose-name-rhymes-with-VANITY are DOWN in their ratings, enough that programmers and program packagers are now wondering if the hate-radio trend is topping out.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:50 PM
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2. Am I the only person that thinks "lib" is a durogatory slur?
Do any actual liberals refer to themselves by this term?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:06 PM
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14. I don't appreciate the implication you are making.
All I'm saying is that I've never heard actual liberals refer to themselves as "libs."

I HAVE heard tons of right wing pundits use the term, and I don't like it.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:58 PM
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21. Honestly, it doesn't bother me. If they are shortening "liberal" to "lib"
as some kind of insult to my intelligence, I don't get their joke.

Why do you not like it? Do you feel it is an intentional slur or insult toward us?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:07 AM
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47. The fact that so many in the right wing use it seems to indicate that.
Time has shown that we don't do well to abide by the labels the right assigns to us. I think we should be aware of it.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:29 PM
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56. You have a good point there. However, were they the ones to first
call a liberal a lib? All I hear from the hate radio is the "Left" or the "Liberal Left." I really haven't heard them use "lib" that I have noticed.

Your point is a good one though.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:36 PM
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18. Sure thing.
And the abbreviation of conservative is con.

Makes sense to me.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:02 PM
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13. I am PROUD TO BE A LIBERAL...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:14 PM
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16. The point is in the finer details.
The OP didn't ask if LIBERAL is a derogatory term. It asked if LIBS was derogatory. Believe it or not, there can be a huge difference.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:05 PM
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24. Is it derogatory? I have used it for some time among like-minded friends
and to refer to myself; am I missing something?

:shrug:

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:00 AM
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44. Well that's all you needed to say!
That was the question the OP was asking!
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:24 AM
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52. When people ask me if I'm a liberal
I say yes I am - right down to my bleeding heart. I'm not going to let the wingers make it an insult. F'em.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:00 PM
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23. I've got no problem with it; I can't imagine why anyone would.
HCan you explain the connotation that makes it derogatory?

I use it all the time to refer to myself.
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1democracy Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:11 PM
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25. There is a subconscious association
with "Women's Lib" which has been demonized by the right, so I do believe I'd consider their use of it to be derogatory.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:13 PM
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26. That never even occurred to me. As I say, I only use it among like-minded
folks and this issue has never come up before.

I guess you learn something new everyday!

Thanks for the clarification, I truly was baffled. I guess I'll try to stop using it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:50 PM
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3. Question
Why do you listen to Rush Limbaugh?

Just wondering.
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rbjensen Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:52 PM
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7. God, yeah
it is really bad for your blood pressure. Just say no. I'd rather listen to Japanese Opera and I'm not a big fan of that, either.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:34 PM
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29. You got that right. I have normal BP whenever I go to the doctor, and
my husband has borderline so when I check his, I always check mine and it's almost perfect.

When I listen to Limpballs, I feel dizzy sometimes, as well as feeling like I could explode.

I went for months without listening to him. Then I started doing it for Media Matters (never turned anything in but have tons of recordings of his shows recorded).

The last couple of months the man has just gotten unreal.
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BrutalEntropy Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:17 PM
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37. Just out of curiousity...
How goes one get involved with Media Matters?

I'd love to fact-check Limbaugh's *or insert any other repuke* show.
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rbjensen Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:35 AM
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46. Before you do it
Take your vitamins, have your bp checked and get enough sleep. I'm serious. That level of hate is really bad for you body and mind. But I'm grateful that there are strong people who can do it.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:52 PM
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4. Seems they all have that problem.
Their words are always getting misinterpreted. Like Rush's....I recall he recently said Casey Sheehan's death was fiction.

He really does seem like he's becoming more disconnected with reality...he seems to have Dimson disease.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:43 PM
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33. That sounds like a setup for a joke. Okay, I'll bite, what is Dimson
Disease?

Also, why did you give yourself the screen name old and in the way? It makes me wonder why you would feel that way.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:52 PM
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5. Fantastic! Let them come home with an honorable discharge for the
servicethey provided before the lie and after the lie and until the lie was exposed and they lost heart for the leader. Let only supporters fight. It sounds perfectly logical to me. Great idea, Rush!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 01:58 PM
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10. I'm looking forward to the Hitchins / Galloway debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2043172

Galloway is going to make Hitchens go down, just as he did to Normie Coleman.
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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:01 PM
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12. Yes, Hitchins will be toast
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:47 PM
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34. Now that sounds like an entertaining evening, afternoon, whatever. Please
if you would, remind us of it a day or two before it happens. Christopher Hitchens was on The Daily Show with John Stewart one day last week. I think he has a new book he is pushing. Liberal my ass.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:00 PM
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11. Hitchens is a liberal?
Lots of us saw Hitchens being demolished on "The Daily Show" last week for his attempts to justify the war in Iraq. So what does that make Jon Stewart?
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:02 PM
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36. Exactly my point. Limpballs called Hitchens a Liberal on his show
today. As far as John Stewart . . . he could be an Independent, Democrat, Green Party, etc. But I can say 100% sure he is no neoconservative. Especially the ones we have in there now with their PNAC and then the right hate talkers call it all a conspiracy theory the left has come up with. Well damn, it's listed right on the internet and everything they have done.

That is why I hope ole Jebbie runs for Prez in 08. With his big signature on the letter that was sent to Clinton to bomb Iraq in 1997.

It would give us the opportunity to get PNAC's message out there. I have checked the freepers site, and they claim it to be propaganda. I feel like asking them do they believe their hate talking heads or their own eyes? Also, the media NOR any of our Dem leaders never bring it up. I mean if Clinton hadn't have gotten elected, we would already have taken over Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait by now. That is why they hate Clinton so bad. He held them up for eight years. Plus, I do not think any of them believed Dumbya would even run . . .they wanted Jebbie. But ole Dumbya fooled us all . . . by stealing the election. Also, 2004 was another election that was a joke. We have got to get some kind of nationwide voting system that has hard copy for recounts, and we need to come up with something quick or there will never be another Democrat in the White House.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:40 PM
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42. What he is, in precise terms,
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 11:41 PM by Crunchy Frog
is: a drink soaked, ex-Trotsyist, popinjay. (That's Hitchens, not Stewart.)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:14 PM
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15. Hitchens USED to be progressive
Years ago, before alcohol destroyed most of his brain cells. He did a sharp about-face when he realized that the conservatives will pay well for someone who can write absolute bullshit with a certain degree of panache. It requires no effort and the only thought involved is in twisting bullshit arguments so that an uncritical audience will buy in.

Of course, Hissyfittin' Hitchybitch has lost any panache he may have had. Now he is just a sweaty, smelly man who oozes booze at breakfast. Sick putz!

As for Rush, obviously he hasn't kept up, or all that drug abuse renders him unable to process new or updated information. The buttcyst boy probably thinks Clinton is still the president....
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:19 PM
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38. The seething hate that comes out of Limpballs mouth when he talks
about the Clinton's, how they run the Democratic party; however, whenever a Democrat got endorsed by Clinton, they went way down in the polls or lost re-election.

He is such a capitalist; however, when he talks about Clinton coming out of the White House richer than he went in, he sounds like he is going to regurgitate.

They didn't leave the White House richer, per se, it was the book deals after they were already out. The amounts they got paid for their books pissed the Republicans off because Reagan and Bush 41 didn't even get anything close to Clinton.

He hates the fact that everybody still loves Clinton and wants him back. They impeached him ONLY because they had the majority to be able to do it; however, the SCOTUS found him not guilty of all charges and Clinton was completely exonerated. That is why he was not forced to leave office. They just wanted to continue to burn our money on a BS investigation to continue to embarrass Clinton and hurt his family. Yes, Clinton was responsible for what he did, and he stated that. He took full responsibility for his actions but what went on between him, Monica Lewinsky, and his wife were no one's business but theirs. The right just had to humiliate him. They continue to try to as well. However, he handed it right to them by his actions. How can somehow so brilliant be so dumb when it comes to common sense????
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:40 PM
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40. The needle & the damage done.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste- even when half of it is tied behind your ass.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 02:17 PM
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17. wash out your ears and don't listen to that oxycontin-popping lardass
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 03:40 PM
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19. I agree with him... SEND THE LIBERALS HOME
Send the WAR MONGERS TO FIGHT THEIR BLOODY WAR.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:15 PM
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27. wow...and he gets played on armed services radio.
nice going, this comment will make the liberal soldiers in harms way feel signaled out if they hear this over there . asshole.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:34 PM
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39. Surprisingly, Randi on her show today made a remark about how all of
the military listens to her, Army, Marines, Navy.

I too thought only he and the other right-wing nuts were being played for the troops . . . no Democrats. Well, that must have changed since Air America came on the air.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:01 PM
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41. well, that is good to hear but still..
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 11:02 PM by jonnyblitz
not that everybody hangs off limbaughs every word but to divide the military into liberal and conservative when everybody has to work together in that effort over there doesn't seem good. i don't know...i am sure i am imagining the worst. you would think that sort of thing would undermine the troops more than anti-war activism, pitting liberal soldier against conservative soldier by saying the liberal ones aren't to be trusted. :shrug:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:18 PM
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28. So I wonder what would the litmus test consist of?
"Target, Wal-Mart, or Costco?"

"Is anyone in your immediate family a union member?"

"How many Kerry voters do you know?"

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:34 PM
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30. So this can safely called "Bush's War" officially?
It's been all about him from "shock and awe," but since Rush gets his talking points straight from the Heritage Foundation, I guess that makes it OFFICIAL!
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:35 PM
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31. I'd send Rush to Iraq,
his pilodial cyst seems to have gone away and surely with a 300 mil contract he can afford toilet paper.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:36 PM
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32. Libs is ok with me...
I will refer to them as Cons.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 11:45 PM
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43. Message to Bush and Limpballs
Send those damn lib troops home right away. Replace them with your kids and those of your supporters.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:01 AM
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45. Well then JOIN UP RUSH....send those damn Libs home from Iraq n/t
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:18 AM
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48. Are you sure he didn't say Hitchens needed a bib?
what with all Rushie's lisping, drooling and pill swallowing it's easy to misunderstand him. :evilgrin:
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cyn2 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:41 AM
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50. Hitchens DID endorse Kerry on election eve last year...
He didn't like Kerry, but had to back away from Bush due to sheer incompetence!
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Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:44 AM
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51. I wonder
if Daryn Kagan bathes in betadine after touching him.....
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:40 AM
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54. EEeeyah what a horrible visual...anyone touching jabba the hut sexually
:::retch::: :::gag::: :puke:
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eauclaireliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:34 AM
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53. Rush has been picking away at that cyst again
...the one on his head...or his ass. Hard to tell.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:56 AM
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55. Well he is as heady as anyone who has gotten away with a felony
could be.

He now KNOWS that, as a Friend of Der Fuhrer, he is ABSOLUTELY IMMUNE from any crime he may decide to commit.

Now, he may decide to keeep clean, but for PR purposes, not because he HAS to.

I guess if I found out I could LITERALLY get away with anything, I would be pretty excited, too.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:32 PM
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57. That fat, drug-addicted f*ck is slowly imploding
Lately he's been loonier than ever.
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