Visualize Impeachment! I believe that Bush will be impeached.

[texpatriot2004]

I believe that I will see him impeached. It's like in Lord of the Rings, I think it was the second one, when Gandolf and the crew were in the cave running from the monster dragon thing and Gandolf turned to face the dragon at the bridge and with all of his might and sheer force of his will said, "YOU SHALL NOT PASS." That's how I feel. Bush shall not succeed in ruining America with his selfishness, greed and stupidity. I will not allow it. I will believe in something other than disaster for this country. In my mind's eye I will believe that Bush is being impeached. I will dream of it and maybe others will dream of it too. What's your vision? "...Without vision, the people perish..." I am not sure what book or verse to quote, but it's from the good book. The one that the Rethugs don't own. So, I will choose to believe, right now, that this madness stops here! That EVIL Bush shall not pass!

[tex-wyo-dem]

1. I hope you're right...

If their has ever been a president who deserves to be impeached, this is it.

I think a lot will depend on if we can get a Dem majority in the House in '06.

[In Truth We Trust]

2. Paper ballots NOW!!! Hand counts NOW!!! Impeachment NOW!!! nt

[zann725]

6. Speaking of "ballots"...let's swear-in the REAL Prez. of the '04 Election!

That's the second part of the visualization I'll work on.

It isn't just Shrub which is "illegitimate," but his entire Admin...and many of the congress people which now constitute the so-called "majority."

[Arkana]

17. Forget 2004...what about 2000? Everyone seems to have forgotten--

Al Gore won!

[BlueIris]

27. Not everyone has fogotten. Hi, President-elect Gore! nt

[hnsez]

3. I keep trying to visualize it but all I keep seeing is...

[Uncle Joe]

5. Yes according to the corpwhorate owned MSM

who would you rather a beer with, was the vital issue of the day in 2000. Although I thought Bush was right handed.

[howmad1]

22. My bumper sticker says "Visualize Impeachment".

Made it myself on the computer. So far, all I get is thumbs up. How about a trend.

[calimary]

35. Gorgeous! Great work!

Welcome to DU! Just gorgeous! Keep it up - this is the kind of thinking AND grassroots activism we need. EVERY little bit helps. :toast:

[DarkmoonIkonoklast]

42. Could you also create: "Court-Martial the Commander-In-Thief!"?

PLEASE??!!??!!??

[mtnsnake]

4. Good post! We HAVE to keep believing he'll be impeached

If we stop believing it, it won't happen. If we believe strong enough, the forces will MAKE it happen.

Never give up!

[lucca]

7. Yes,

I want Bush impeached, and I want the rest of the crooks in his administration in jail.

I want honesty and truth.
I want (oh, we so need), paper ballots!

Thank you for your post, texpatriot.

[faithnotgreed]

11. good post lucca - except one thing

bush should be impeached AND jailed (along with everyone else in his cabal as you pointed out)

cant forget that important detail
ha

[texpatriot2004]

39. Yes, absolutely, I agree with you...jail that's where they all belong.

The whole evil, corrupt lot of them.

[calimary]

36. And welcome to you, too, lucca!

I think EVERYONE HERE wants the same thing. And we're not alone anymore. I said "visualize IMPEACHMENT" to a few passers-by in the neighborhood today. Got NO arguments. Instead, a lot of nodding heads and "yeah, really" reactions. It was rawther gratifying. Think I'll go out and do it again tomorrow... :evilgrin:

[DarkmoonIkonoklast]

43. Even my redneck neighbors agree!

I live in a red-tinged county slightly north of "The Peoples' Republic of Seattle" and even they think this dweeb needs to be removed from office. I've been wearing my "Impeach Bush" button prominently on my camo hat since the Coup d'Etat of 2000 and not a single one of these 'necks -- including some I KNOW to be "born-agains" -- has expressed disagreement. As an example, just a couple of weeks ago I was at a bus stop, conversing with a couple of older retired-military types and, when I suggested that I'd almost rather see him tried before a military court for gross dereliction of duty, both nodded heartily and one even said he'd go active again, just for a chance to sit on that Court Martial board.

Another retiree I know (a retired Army one-star) told me more than a year ago that he had discussed this very thing with some of his still active colleagues. Their consensus: difficult, but not impossible.

"Could it be? Yes it could!"

Believe!!!

[texpatriot2004]

8. That idiot, the Thief in Chief, talks and talks and says nothing.

That's what he's always done, I know it's nothing new but it bugs me to no end.

[OneTwentyoNine]

9. Bawhahaha,not a chance.....

Of course this same topic gets posted 50 times a week but here we go again.

Who controls the House? Who controls Congress? Enough said.....

[texpatriot2004]

13. Thanks for sharing. I really don't care what you have to say as

it could happen. You really have no way of knowing and with your defeatist attitude, well...

Peace be with you but you are not all knowing.

[OneTwentyoNine]

21. Defeatist attitude?? No just common sense....

You need 2/3 to Impeach. We don't own the House or Congress but you think a load of Repukes are going to jump ship and side with Dems? Especially over a War that nearly ALL of them voted for? LOL....

If and when they do you'll be the first I'll look up and say you were right and I was wrong. Please don't hold your breath.....

[Cynot]

28. Yes.

Even if we should retake both the House and the Senate in 2006, which is a big "if," they will absolutely have enough votes in the Senate to block the 2/3rds needed for conviction. Yes, impeachment in the House requires a bare majority, but he is not going to be removed from office. Wishing it so won't make it happen.

Rather than spending our time on fantasies, we should be devoting our efforts to seeing to it that we get a Dem in office in 2008 so that this mess can be cleaned up.

[flaminbats]

31. maybe Republicans should have done that after Clinton was elected.

just because winning Congress was still considered a big "if" in 1993, did that stop Republicans? Waiting until 1996 to begin fighting would of been a huge mistake, and even if Dole had won in 1996..who would care with a Democratic Congress?

[calimary]

37. NEVERTHELESS: YES we should work to retake the House in 2006.

Even if we don't get the Senate. If we retake the House, we then can proceed to aggitate for IMPEACHMENT. When the articles of IMPEACHMENT are prepared in the House - that means he's been impeached. It then goes to the Senate to "close the deal," in effect. There's a trial on the articles of IMPEACHMENT, and if a majority in the Senate votes aye, then he's not only IMPEACHED, he's REMOVED FROM OFFICE. Which would be even sweeter. That's what the bad guys failed to do against Clinton. Yeah, they got the articles of impeachment together, off the ground, and onto the Senate. But their efforts stalled in the Senate, because they didn't have the votes to convict. Therefore, Clinton stayed in office.

If we even only get that far with bush in, say, 2007, it would almost be enough to leave him, and his record, and his vaunted "place in history" with a blemish like that. It would be a HUGE ego blow to all things republi-CON, and it would be a stench that would stick. Even if he survived in the Senate, he would carry around as big and ever-present a cloud over his head as the dirt cloud following Pigpen around in the "Peanuts" cartoons. It would damage his so-called "legacy." He'd go down in the history books, in the most simplistic terms as another "president" who got IMPEACHED, and that's what he'd be remembered for.

He would be damaged goods. He'd be defanged and declawed, and it would be a big black eye to rove and all the rest of his handlers whose biggest headlines would be how they couldn't save his ass anymore - the shit and the blunders and the incompetence and the gross dereliction of duty were just TOO profound. And his "coattails" would take a lot of republi-CONS down with him. You might find maybe a dozen of them around the country who'd even be willing to stick their necks out enough to attach his name to their campaigns. Nobody'd want him to make appearances for them, although he'd still be doing fundraising banquets like crazy. (It's happening already here in California, where he went stumping and speechifying yesterday, and somehow, he and Ahnold just couldn't figure out a way to coordinate their schedules to appear together. Their polls are so lousy that neither of their sets of advisors thought it wise for them to be seen together - two "powerful" pols in free-fall, dueling poll dumps, etc.)

AND, if it somehow transpired that he was IMPEACHED, and then the Senate went along with it and convicted and removed him from office, yes, we'd get cheney. Who likely would be motivated by some pretty serious (but carefully concealed) misery. Why? Because he likes moving in the dark. He likes slithering through the shadows, underneath and behind things where people can't see or keep track, nobody's watching, nobody can tell what he's up to. He doesn't want anybody looking, or heaven forbid, actually seeing something. Mr. dickie doesn't like being forced out into the open air and sunshine where everybody can see. He'd hate it. And so would his blood pressure. And he'd start looking worse and worse and more anemic and more shriveled and older and more stressed and ... well, you know the drill. His ticker can't take the pressure or the nonstop heat of the leading spotlight. This would be a topic of public and pundit discussion for a long time. It would be unavoidable. By contrast, if he were elevated to the presidency because of bush's IMPEACHMENT and REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, he, too, would not be without a little stench rubbing off from that. Not only that, but it would likely place such a strain on his health that he wouldn't be able to capitalize as well on the perceived "momentum" of incumbency he'd then inherit by default. His health wouldn't allow it. His wife would start complaining. And we'd get the crap about "needing to spend more time with his family" as the reason why he'd not run for "reelection" on his own.

The challenge would lie in whomever cheney would chooses as his veep under such circumstances. And we'd have to hunker down on that one, and be vigilant. But, even by then, bush would have rendered them ALL a pile of damaged goods. TOO MANY voters would be inclined to want to give the other guys a try, for a change, since these schmucks have run the show for so long and look what a mess they made. The bad guys would NOT be playing from a position of strength.

And if cheney chose somebody like Rudy Giuliani, Rudy's pro-choice and funky personal "family values" scandals would cost him some of his luster, too, once he was foisted on the national stage for real. If he caved to the extremists on choice, he'd lose the other women's vote and he'd be compromised as a candidate on his own in 2008.

An IMPEACHMENT, even without the accompanying REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, would be a great gift. A GREAT gift. WELL worth working for. Because, believe me, if bush is impeached, it'll be for such a magnitude of offenses it would make Clinton's impeachment for a stained blue dress look like a joke by comparison, and it would damage republi-CONS for a LONG time.

[ClassWarrior]

38. Wishing it so won't make it happen, true. But talking about it will...

...undermine Bush**'s support, and will show our Congresscritters how we want them to fight.

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

15. It's never enough said - because even if it doesn't happen...

...we erode the Bush** Administration's support every time we repeat the I-word. Sooooooo...

Visualize Impeachment. And...

Never Give Up.

[rniel]

10. We'll see after the 2006 elections

Republicans will never turn on him no matter if he's down to 10% in the polls. We need to get back the house and senate in 2006. Then it's a done deal.

[onenote]

25. i'm afraid the math is against you

It takes a two-thirds majority for the Senate to convict (and thus complete the impeachment process). The Repubs currently have 55 seats, the Democrats 44, and Jeffords (I) is number 100. There are 33 Senate seats open in 2006: 18 Democrats and 15 Repubs. Even if the Dems hold every seat they now have and win every single Republican seat, the Senate is still 60-40. And the chances of such a result in the election is all but zero. Any number of Repubs are "safe" -- Do you really think Utah is going to elect a Democrat over Orrin Hatch? Frankly, it will be tough enough for the Dems to pick up enough seats to get bare majority, although I think that is within the realm of possibility (although it didn't help that Mark Warner decided not to challenge Allen in VA, which all but concedes that seat to the Repubs (although I'm still hoping for a miracle...).

onenote

[gristy]

26. texpatriot isn't trying to visualize a conviction...

just an impeachment. That would be good enough for me, too.

[onenote]

29. i was responding to rniel

who was suggesting that if the Democrats recaptured the House and Senate impeachment (and, by implication, since he mentioned capturing the Senate) would be a "done deal." My point is that even if the Democrats pulled off the biggest one sided Senate election in history, capturing all 33 seats that are up, we wouldn't have the votes to convict.

onenote

[ClassWarrior]

12. Impeachment NOW, my Tejas friend...

...and Never Give Up.

[texpatriot2004]

14. Thanks for the big smile you put on my face Class. NGU! n/t

[ClassWarrior]

16. Never, never!

NGU.

[texpatriot2004]

18. Never, ever!

NGU!

:patriot:

[Bluesplayer]

19. sorry

but you lost me at "lord of the rings."

[nickshepDEM]

20. LOL, me too.

[Independent_Liberal]

23. Yes, he WILL be impeached! I know it. I just know it.

It's what my gut instinct is telling me. I've been proven right in the past when I go with my gut instinct.

Keep hope alive.

NGU

:)

[Independent_Liberal]

24. Visualize it people! Goddamn you! Visualize it!

If you visualize it, it will happen.

:)

[baron j]

30. That monster was the Balrog, and I believe the Balrog is more

cuddly than Dumbya. Believe me, I've been imagining impeachment on a daily basis.

[texpatriot2004]

40. Oh, hey thanks for the "Balrog" bit, I wondered what it was called.

And thanks for visualizing impeachment. The power is within and like Albert Einstein said, "imagination is more important than intellect."

Peace.

:patriot:

[roguevalley]

32. I pray so. I give my 9000th post to this endeavor.

[calimary]

33. Love it, love it, love it, love it, love it, love it, love it, love it,

love it, love it, love it...

Uh... you get the idea...

An absolute DELIGHT to see this musing! What a wonderful metaphor and mental image!

I do, too. I've begun mentioning these very words to people I run into - just anywhere - like at the bank, the gas pump, the grocery store... everywhere: "Visualize IMPEACHMENT! Pass it on..."

I think it's becoming less and less far-fetched every day. We just need to keep stoking the fire.

To help this along a little bit more, make sure, if you can, that you work in a BRIEF mention of how this might not have happened if bush hadn't cut the funding for the Army Corps of Engineers to shore up the levees so they could withstand a Category Five hurricane - back two or three YEARS AGO. Again - bush CUT THE FUNDING.

As I said when I called my congressman earlier today, "I defy ANYBODY in hurricane territory to tell you they feel safer these days." "...but he's keeping us safe!" Yeah. My ASS. Tell that to Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. WHAT national security?!?!? And how's that fabulous dollar-ninety-eight tax cut workin' out for ya?" (THAT one works especially well with the increasingly angry captive audience you find at ANY gas station, especially at the self-service pumps, or in ANY waiting room where there's a TV on, tuned to one of the cable news channels.)

Just a brief mention. No preachiness. Just one or two details. Like dog treats. A little goes a long way. Don't overdo it. Sometimes they can't handle too much info and it all washes over them and away. Just plant the little seed. Drop that little drop of poison in the well. Quick hit and run. And the fire will have been started.

[autorank]

34. I see it too! It just hit me last night and early today. He screwed the

pooch on this one. There is no way to unring this bell.

I don't think a majority of people realize that this city is finished for a long long itme, gone, vanished under water thanks to this idiot.

It's his fault...impeach and then jail the whole crew

[texpatriot2004]

41. Really, all it takes is for some people to change their minds...

some politicians who happen to be Rethugs could, upon seeing Bush as a political leper, decide he's not worth their own ass and turn on him...really that's it. People change their minds all the time; especially political people who don't want to go down with the ship. It's really not that far fetched. It's really not much of a stretch now to imagine impeachment. Plus, in my opinion, it would be karma and poetic justice to all those sanctimonious hypocrites who participated in the constant witch hunts with the Clinton Administration. Remember, NOONE DIED WHEN CLINTON LIED! Also, remember, what Albert Einstein said, "imagination is more important than intellect." Stranger things have happened in this world and especially in this political world. We must stop believing that these evil people are above the law...THEY AREN'T! The sooner we accept this, the sooner we really believe it, the sooner they will be gone. Thanks to all those who dare to imagine and believe.