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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:46 PM
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FAX the "Hesitant Judge" Hellerstein as to why to release the abuse photos
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 03:48 PM by cyberpj
ACLU Open Hearing and "Hesitant Judge" articles then FAX THE JUDGE
snips from 2 articles follow:

snip 1...

Included in papers unsealed today is General Myers' argument that the photographs must be withheld because "our democratic idea of public accountability -- the airing of misdeeds by government officials and employees in order to hold government to the highest standards of conduct -- is an idea that is misunderstood in other parts of the world."

In response, the ACLU's Romero said the government's conduct in this litigation "suggests that some senior U.S. officials are merely trying to cover up the failure of the military leadership. Indeed, these images are a critical component in the quest for public accountability."

The legal papers released today also demonstrate the government's continued failure to acknowledge that abuse of prisoners was widespread, and not limited to Abu Ghraib.

For instance, General Myers' declaration states that the images at issue concern the "isolated activity by one military unit," and could be used to characterize detainee abuse as being "more widespread than it was." Documents obtained as a result of the ACLU's FOIA request provide overwhelming evidence that the abuse of prisoners was not confined to Abu Ghraib but was widespread and systemic.
These documents are available online at www.aclu.org/torturefoia.

A web feature about the case, including PDFs of the documents released by the government, is online at www.aclu.org/torturefoia.

The newly released version of a declaration by Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Richard Myers, is available online at: www.aclu.org/International/International.cfm?ID=18978&c=36
and www.aclu.org/International/International.cfm?ID=18975&c=36.

The newly released version of a declaration by former Deputy Assistant Secretary and Coordinator for Iraq in the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs of the Department of State Ronald Schlicher declaration is available online at: www.aclu.org/International/International.cfm?ID=18968&c=36.

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N.Y. Judge Hesitant on Abu Ghraib Photos
Wednesday August 31, 2005 1:46 AM
By LARRY NEUMEISTER
Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - A judge said Tuesday he was hesitant to release pictures and videotapes of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison while top government officials insisted that deaths could result.

U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein commented as he listened to Manhattan's top government lawyer and an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union, which was seeking release of the pictures.

The judge questioned whether he could disregard arguments by Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who has warned that releasing the photos would aid al-Qaida recruitment, weaken the Afghan and Iraqi governments and incite riots against U.S. troops.

``How can I ignore the expert opinion of General Myers, who is concerned with the safety of his troops?'' the judge asked. ``I can't substitute my opinion for the opinion of General Myers.''


(Note: So it's official now? The Pentagon will issue judicial opinions.)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5244423,00.html

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Added most recently Per: Gregorian
PLEASE FAX YOUR STATEMENTS TO THE JUDGE- FAX NUMBER HERE.
Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein's FAX 1-212-805-7942


I just got off the phone with the judge's office secretary. She was very receptive, and made it clear they were willing to look at comments from the public. She did not know when the ruling would be decided.

GIVE HELLERSTEIN YOUR VERY OWN OPINION, HERE:
Hon. Alvin K. HELLERSTEIN
United States District Judge

Daniel Patrick Moynihan United States Courthouse
500 Pearl Street, Room 1050
New York, New York 10007-1312
(212) 805-0152

Courtroom 14D
Deputy (212) 805-0591
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/judges/USDJ/hellerstein.htm

Nominate and please keep kicked - then tell him what you think.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:50 PM
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1. This is just unbelievable. nt
I just don't know what to say other than....

Impeach!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:12 PM
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2. Dear Judgie-Wudgie
I paid for that torture through my tax dollars, I want to see what I bought.

I have many, many rude and condescending things to say about this to the pinheaded Judge Hellerstein. But I suppose that in deference to the position he holds, I should wait a little while so that through calm, rational and reasoned discourse I can make my position clear to the fucking asshole.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:20 PM
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4. So how'd you do? nt.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 06:12 PM
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3. They are ONLY accepting faxed communication.
Gregorian (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-05 04:42 PM
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17. They are ONLY accepting faxed communication.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:14 PM
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5. I'll tell the judge how he can put his opinion over the generals
He can remember that he represents a separate branch of the US system of tripartate government: administrative, legislative, and judicial. The idea is for them to balance each other. It is his job to let the US public see what has been done in their name with their tax money.

Let the truth be revealed.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:27 PM
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6. Dear Judge, As a God Fearing Christian Republic I demand that you...
don't release those photos and vidoes of George Bush raping inmates. This will only give the Democraps the power in this country and take it away from us and that suck. Think about how much the Democraps hate America and you will know Jesus doesn't want you to show the other Democraps in the world how these people lie and make up stuff. You should rule for Jesus because he is your Judge. And we are getting tire of your activision so you had better not release them or God will have someone assassinate you.

Sined,
The PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF YOU BETTER NOT
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