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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:28 PM
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2001: Bush cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44% to pay for Iraq
"No one can say they didn't see it coming"
In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.

Aug. 31, 2005 | Biblical in its uncontrolled rage and scope, Hurricane Katrina has left millions of Americans to scavenge for food and shelter and hundreds to thousands reportedly dead. With its main levee broken, the evacuated city of New Orleans has become part of the Gulf of Mexico. But the damage wrought by the hurricane may not entirely be the result of an act of nature.

A year ago the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposed to study how New Orleans could be protected from a catastrophic hurricane, but the Bush administration ordered that the research not be undertaken. After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened and renovated levees and pumping stations. In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut funding requested by the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. Additional cuts at the beginning of this year (for a total reduction in funding of 44.2 percent since 2001) forced the New Orleans district of the Corps to impose a hiring freeze. The Senate had debated adding funds for fixing New Orleans' levees, but it was too late.

The New Orleans Times-Picayune, which before the hurricane published a series on the federal funding problem, and whose presses are now underwater, reported online: "No one can say they didn't see it coming ... Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation."

The Bush administration's policy of turning over wetlands to developers almost certainly also contributed to the heightened level of the storm surge. In 1990, a federal task force began restoring lost wetlands surrounding New Orleans. Every two miles of wetland between the Crescent City and the Gulf reduces a surge by half a foot. Bush had promised "no net loss" of wetlands, a policy launched by his father's administration and bolstered by President Clinton. But he reversed his approach in 2003, unleashing the developers. The Army Corps of Engineers and the Environmental Protection Agency then announced they could no longer protect wetlands unless they were somehow related to interstate commerce.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/index.html



"Left: A New Orleans resident walks through floodwaters coated with a fine layer of oil in the flooded downtown area on Tuesday, Aug. 30, 2005."
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:30 PM
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1. So what?? It wasn't enough of a threat for them to take seriously? This
makes Bin Laden look like Spanky and the gang. We have become a third world nation right before our very eyes.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:33 PM
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2. This should be repeated EVERYWHERE
protecting us the mythical threat of Saddam Hussein was certainly worth the price we paid in New Orleans and all across the Gulf Coast :eyes:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:36 PM
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7. I am going to re-post this thread
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:33 PM
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3. What else did you expect?
I'm amazed that the cut was only 44%, what was left probably ended up in the pockets of KBR.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:41 PM
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10. Right....Now Kellogg/Brown/Root can come in and make millions...
Cut funding until you have a catastrophe and then have Bush's buddies come in and make untold millions building it back up.

Start the countdown clock until KBR has a New Orleans contract in hand...
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:44 PM
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12. Naturally, they are the only ones that are prepared to handle these
things, and, as a result, will be offered a "no bid" contract, as usual.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:34 PM
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4. Get this out to Newsweek and all the other big news outlets
Run with this one, baby.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:38 PM
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9. Call the talk shows too.
I'm going to e-mail this to Guy James. I KNOW he will discuss it this Saturday on his show.

http://www.theguyjamesshow.com/



Guy James archived shows:



http://www.whiterosesociety.org/James.html
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:36 PM
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5. Thanks. I just sent this to everyone I know.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:36 PM
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6. Today when I turned my radio on, the Tony Snow Show
happened to be broadcasting. I don't usually listen to anything connected with Fox News, but today there was a substitute, so I listened for a few minutes. One caller brought up this subject...the fact that bush had cut funding for flood control in NOLA. The MC was quick to put the caller down and hang up on him. So much for fair and balanced. I wonder how the caller was even able to get through the screeners.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:38 PM
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8. Please kick this thread.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:43 PM
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11. I'm going to keep kicking it myself...
...because this one's too important to free-fall into the archives.

:patriot:
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:50 PM
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13. Too bad MSM and other enablers...
won't report this.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:54 PM
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14. Kick.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:54 PM
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15. Worst. President. Ever.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:56 PM
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16. Bump?? This should be PINNED at the top.....
GD Bush,how I hate you.....
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:15 PM
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17. It needs visibility, front and center.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:39 PM
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18. Important thread. Kick. nt
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:51 PM
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19. I posted this over at freerepublic, and they revoked my posting priviledge
They ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:37 PM
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21. I guess they feel that God's Little Chosen Prince can do no wrong.
I wonder what's going to happen to the freeps when, as they progress through Bush-Cheney II, they find themselves on the receiving end of a good old fashioned Texas-sized sodomizing?

Will they STILL defend their man, or will they see the light?

We'll find out, I guess...
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:15 PM
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24. Too much reality for them rough tough freeps
:mad:
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Marymarg Donating Member (773 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:09 PM
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20. Kick
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:34 PM
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22. The amount of money we spent in Iraq in 1 year...
would pay for the cleanup and rebuilding of the Katrina damage at least 2 times over. They were talking 26, and probably now maybe I would guess 50 billion---we spend about 72 billion in Iraq.

We went to Iraq and Kuwait and Saudi Arabia in 1991 and saved Kuwait's and Saudi Arabia's asses from Saddam Hussein---I think it's time for some pay back---Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait, in the wake of Katrina ought to be fucking giving away oil to the U.S.

And, * ought to be demanding it, IMHO
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:35 AM
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25. There are at least two schools of thought on that one:
1). "The oil will pay for the war and we'll be greeted as liberators"...well, we can see how successful Bush-Cheney were with that one, and...

2). "We screwed up, we were wrong, but we can't leave now...we have to stay until the Iraqi police are fully trained and the infrastructure has been restored"...

I've heard strong opinions on both, and my feeling is that whatever we do, we need to start taking care of business in our own damned country. The economy sucks, and Bush salivating over the idea of installing a "National Sales Tax" (or "Fair Tax," as it's now being called) to further bleed the middle class is not going to hep matters a bit.

Then again, if he doesn't, I'd be interested to know how Bush proposes to rebuild New Orleans AND Iraq. On September 30th, his "Tax Advisory Panel" turns in their "recommendations" for overhauling the tax code, and a "consumption" tax...be it the "National Sales Tax," a "Value Added Tax," or BOTH...will most certainly be in the list.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:12 PM
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23. And amazingly it could have been even worse
Watching the weather channel and CNN before it hit land, the worst situation didn't occur.

New Orleans, the city below sea level, looked like it was going to be hit by a Category 5. It was only Category 4 when it hit.

Also it was feared that the eyewall (east of the eye) would pass over New Orleans, that being the absolute fiercest, most destructive part of the hurricane. It didn't.

Of course it hit elsewhere.

I've been so angry, as this is just outrageous.

But finally getting through to redcross.org and making a donation helped some.

And I just saw the NFL is pledging a million dollars to the Red Cross too.





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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:49 AM
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26. This is nothing short of criminal neglect...
...and one more reason to impeach Bush/Cheney.

In the context of where are tax dollars are going...

REMEMBER THAT 9 BILLION DOLLARS and TRILLIONS went missing in Iraq and the Pentagon. This is money that can't be accounted for in any way. Just think of how this could be used for the infratructure of our own 'Gulf'.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:58 AM
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27. OMG!
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 05:58 AM by fujiyama
That picture is so disturbing.

It's like watching those seals after the Exonn Valdez spill, but instead with humans - this is so awful.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:25 AM
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28. every day I hate him more
and I hate him for making me hate.

kick and nominated!
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:26 AM
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29. Yet another BUMP.......n/t
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:08 AM
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30. I second the opinion.........
WORST.


PRESIDENT.


EVER.
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