As events unfold, does Kerry regret conceding so quickly?

[wakemewhenitsover]

[Tracyjo]

1. YES

[ispeculate]

2. How do you know?

[Name removed]

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[wakemewhenitsover]

4. Not even ketchup donations?

[lateo]

13. We have a winner!

We can shut down the thread now.

[paulk]

24. still spewing the Kerry hate, I see

what's your purpose here?

why are you doing this?

[wakemewhenitsover]

5. I bet John Edwards is pissed.

[Freddie Stubbs]

6. Had he waited longer

the result would have simply been the same. Just more embarrassing.

[Kingofalldems]

19. More embarrassing?

Your implication is he should be embarrassed even if he didn't wait to concede. Interesting, since this a board supposedly for Dems only.

[Totally Committed]

7. Self-deleted

Because I am too intelligent to have an opinion. About this. On this board. Ever.

TC

[Mass]

10. Please, you are more intelligent than that...

There is no basis that Edwards wanted to fight more than Kerry.

Anyway, this is not the point. If you want to be PO, be it at Bush, because frankly, his waiting has probably already costed many lifes.

Personnally, I question that people starting these threads are even in our side, or they must be really lonely and sick. Dont you think that there must be more useful things to do these days (even in MA) than to start anti-Kerry threads.

[Totally Committed]

12. For the record: I didn't start this thread.

But, as I have said before, even someone as "intelligent" as you credit me for being :) can only take just so much of Kerry stuff before feeling a head explosion coming on.

I have stayed out of these threads for weeks. Am I not allowed, in my fatigue and disgust to post even once? I guess not. I am the only poerson, it seems, not allowed to express my opinion about Kerry.

Okie dokie. Consider it removed.

TC

[Mass]

14. Please do, if that helps you.

Times are difficult and we need somebody to blame, whether it is warranted or not.

[TayTay]

8. Oh yeah, I'm sure he does now

Because his waiting a few days would have made all the difference. Why look at all the media shows and specials that have proved that fraud and trickery occurred. Why, how could Kerry ignore the groundswell of opposition that lit a fire under the country on Nov 4th. Why, he should have just ridden into office on the backs of all the people who complained about this.

Grow up. This is an ignorant and harmful idea. America has to come together in the coming weeks and months and this kind of thing doesn't help that. What a bunch of wimpy little whiners.

[BlueIris]

9. Posts TayTay, so I don't have to.

Especially that last sentence.

[Mass]

11. So quickly?

Second longest concession in history, after Gore only (and remember Gore had only 300 votes to catch up).

So please, go back in your hole. At least Kerry is still fighting to make things better . What are you doing?

[BlueIris]

15. "So please, go back in your hole."

Add my 'please' to that request.

[robbedvoter]

17. Gore had no vote to "catch up". neither did kerry. When you'll grasp

the stolen elections concepts, maybe you'll be able to understand where in history we stand. Untill then, proceed with your little fan clubs.

As for me, my tea cup is full - in fact it runeth over.

[Mass]

18. I get the concept, be sure.

And, as I am more modest than you, I assume you do too.

I was talking about catching up in the counting, not in the vote.

[robbedvoter]

20. At least Gore demanded a counting. kerry folded like a cheap umbrella

As a result, most people have no idea that 2004 was stolen as well. He legitimized W.

[TayTay]

16. I'll throw you a bone, cuz I'm such a sweetheart

Transcript excerpt from Senate Commerce, Science and Technology hearing on July 19, 2005. Sen. Kerry Questions Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff on his department's preparedness to face a major disruption of an American port:

KERRY: I'd just like to focus on one quickly in my opening comments, if I can, and that is the issue of port security, specifically management of the grant program and the status of national prevention and contingency plans.

In January, the DHS inspector general issued a report you're well familiar with saying that the current design of the grants program compromises DHS's ability to direct resources to the nation's highest priorities.

In assessing the administration of the program, the I.G. found that only one staff person at TSA managed the distribution of 811 grants in 2003; found that 82 of 86 grant applications transferred from TSA to the Office of Domestic Preparedness lacked merit but still received funding; and most importantly, found that of the $564 million that was awarded through 2004, only $106 million was actually spent to improve port security.

This is a fairly amazing statistic, as well as reality, when you measure what experts have told us about ports and the potential threat, which you're well familiar with.

I know that you and DHS concurred with most of the recommendations, but it's never been set forth, sort of precisely, how that's going to ultimately be implemented.

Last week, on the homeland security appropriations bill, I submitted an amendment to require the inspector general and others to report within 90 days detailing how that implementation is taking place, will take place. So, obviously, I hope you'll cooperate in that effort.

But, more importantly, I am really concerned, and I think others are, that we remain ill prepared.

Now, I heard your comments the other day, and I respect the distinction you're trying to draw. I would concur that we can't prevent everything, and there are certain limits and there are certain realities we have to live with.

But the department still has not finished a national maritime security plan mandated by the Maritime Transportation Security Act. The country still has no plan to reroute commerce should a port be attacked. And that lack of planning could prove destructive to our economy if there were a major port being closed, especially if oil or natural gas deliveries were stopped. So I would urge you to tackle this. Obviously, I have some questions on it when the question period comes.

I hope we never need it, but there's no doubt in my mind that railroads, highways and cities are all impacted by what does or doesn't happen with respect to port security itself, because they're so interconnected.

And I look forward to having a chance to explore this with you a little bit.

It doesnt take genius to extrapolate from that some info that leads into the current crisis because of the natural disaster in the Gulf now. It also doesn't take a genius to figure out that Kerry is still a sitting US Senator, still a powerful member of Congress and still capable of lobbying the Commerce Committee and the Senate to hold hearings, figure out what went wrong and hold people accountable. He can actually do this and it would be an actual good thing to write to his Senate office (or the Senator of your choice, if you loathe Kerry so much) and ask them to hold accountability hearings.

So, can you compose me a letter to Kerry that contains a suggestion about something he can actually do? Or are you so full of hatred for Kerry that your brain shuts down and you can't even think when his name comes up? Prove me wrong.

[zann725]

21. If we ever hear from him on this?!!! Where IS he...

Gore flies in NO to take out patients today, and WHERE is Kerry?!

I voted for him, and expected MUCH more...MUCH more. The silence is deafening.

[Mass]

22. NO, but you are not listening!!

[zann725]

27. I am. And unless he's a tree falling in a forest somewhere....the silence

is deafening.

Oh, yeah...he did ask people to donate money a few days ago. I get similar money requests from him on other things. That's about it.

[Totally Committed]

23. Why was this thread kicked again?

What purpose does it serve?

I am not a Kerry fan, but what good does it possibly do to keep threads going here when they just seem to divide us at a time when we should have our focus eleswhere and on more important things?

I am not proud of my participation the other day in this thread and the resulting dust-up with Mass (someone whom I admire and respect). It was while emotions were running high, I admit, but that is no excuse for not keeping my attention elsewhere, and where it should have been... on people actually suffering.

Don't we all have better things to do? I spent some time down at the UU Church in town this morning, sorting canned goods and diapers for our donation to the shelters that will be housing the NO citizens who are being relocated.

Can't we just let these divisive threads sink, and unite to support our fellow citizens who are in need right now? If you want to go all political on someone's ass, pick a politician who has done absolutely NOTHING to make this situation better, and go postal all over their ass! Write and e-mail to the media, contact those who were elected to represent you... anything but these tired threads.

If all else fails, go outside and take a walk! Hope it is as beautiful where you are as it is here in Eastern Mass today.

TC

[windbreeze]

28. There is a Time....

and this is NOT the time...you ARE right TC
Thank you
windbreeze

[CityDem]

25. Kerry was a weak candidate

Kerry wimped out in 2004 and left us with AWOL. He tried to play it safe after the convention and got his ass handed to him by the MSM and swift boat whores. We need to look for new, aggressive leaders who are not afraid of their shadows -- this includes Hillary Clinton.

[rhett o rick]

26. Kerry was and is a politician. He supported the war for political reasons

he conceeded for the same reasons. He is first and foremost a

[Moderator]

29. Locking, this was flamebait two days ago

and remains flamebait today.