Bush: "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees"

[Julius Civitatus]

He had the gall to say that this morning on Good Morning America. Video available here:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA

You gotta be f*cking kidding me!

:banghead:

He is giving the same answer to his inept response to the Katrina disaster that Condi Rice gave to her inept response to 9/11:

"I don't think anyone could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center"

Ari Fleishcher also echoed the same official line:

"Never did we imagine what would take place on September 11 where people use those airplanes as missiles and weapons."

Bush himself said the same freaking thing on April 18, 2004:

"Nobody in our government, at least, and I don't think the prior government, could envision flying airplanes into buildings on such a massive scale."

Same tired old line. Apparently they know nothing, and they couldn't have foreseen anything at all. This line worked for them back then, and they are recycling it now that it's clear their mismanagement has made Katrina an even worse disaster.

Well, according to Atrios and Echidne blog, there have been countless predictions of the NOLA levee breaking and flooding the city, yet the Bush administration irresponsibly CUT THE BUDGET for the levee maintenance.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/8/30/212451/290

http://www.prospect.org/web/printfriendly-view.ww?id=10180

Bush even FIRED the guy who predicted this outcome:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4545070&mesg_id=4545070

And then Bush himself cut the funding for the levee maintenance:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-050831corps-story,1,2364215.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

The amount of chutzpah used by these people is just too much. They lie with the upmost impunity in face of overwhelming evidence against their bullcrap. I hope the media, for once, hold their feet to the fire... but we shouldn't expect much, as usual.

[malaise]

1. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://alternet.org/story/24871/ Fuck Bush!

[skypilot]

2. Sounds familiar.

I'm paraphrasing here:

"No one could have imagined that terrorists would take a plane, use it as a missile and crash it into the World Trade Center."

[mirandaod]

3. LIAR! nt

[Panda1]

140. My first thought too

Liar. More lies.

[Greeby]

4. I see

She's the one who gives her husband the talking points! :think:

[expatriot]

5. "I hope people don't play politics at this time of a natural disaster...."

"Nice try, you fuck! You're going down!"

[Deep13]

6. Led Zeppelin imagined it ...

... on their album Led Zeppelin IV. I can see how people might fail to understand that the song is about levees breaking, since it was given the cryptic name of "When the Levee Breaks." The local officials said they were concerned about the levee breaking since it was not built for that kind of storm.

As far as imagining Sept. 11, bin Laden could certainly imagine that happening so why couldn't the Feds?

[Clark2008]

14. Pretty sad song

If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
When The Levee Breaks I'll have no place to stay.

Mean old levee taught me to weep and moan,
Got what it takes to make a mountain man leave his home,
Oh, well, oh, well, oh, well.

Don't it make you feel bad
When you're tryin' to find your way home,
You don't know which way to go?
If you're goin' down South
They go no work to do,
If you don't know about Chicago.

Cryin' won't help you, prayin' won't do you no good,
Now, cryin' won't help you, prayin' won't do you no good,
When the levee breaks, mama, you got to move.

All last night sat on the levee and moaned,
Thinkin' about me baby and my happy home.
Going, going to Chicago... Going to Chicago... Sorry but I can't take you...
Going down... going down now... going down....

[rocktivity]

31. If we keep on going, the condom's gonna break

If we keep on going, the condom's gonna break
and if the condom breaks, we might end up with AIDS.

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[Up2Late]

55. You want Sad, try "Louisiana 1927" by Randy Newman

Harry Shwarer, who spends a lot of time in New Orleans, started his show Sunday with this song. Below is a RealAudio link:

"Le Show" August 28, 2005 (entire program)

<http://play.rbn.com/foo.ram?url=livecon/kcrw/g2demand/ls/ls050828le_Show.rm&start=.7&proto=rtsp>

<http://www.harryshearer.com/leshow/index.html>

Louisiana 1927 Lyrics
Artist: Randy Newman
Album: Good Old Boys

What has happened down here is the wind have changed
Clouds roll in from the north and it started to rain
Rained real hard and rained for a real long time
Six feet of water in the streets of Evangeline

The river rose all day
The river rose all night
Some people got lost in the flood
Some people got away alright
The river have busted through cleard down to Plaquemines
Six feet of water in the streets of Evangelne


CHORUS
Louisiana, Louisiana
They're tyrin' to wash us away
They're tryin' to wash us away
Louisiana, Louisiana
They're tryin' to wash us away
They're tryin' to wash us away

President Coolidge came down in a railroad train
With a little fat man with a note-pad in his hand
The President say, "Little fat man isn't it a shame what the river has done
To this poor crackers land."

CHORUS

<http://www.lyricsdepot.com/randy_newman/louisiana-1927.html>

[sendero]

72. This song is so incredible..

.... on so many levels, it is a true work of art.

[Up2Late]

98. I know! I can't even READ the lyrics with out starting to tear up...

...and as a typical American man, not much causes that reaction in me.

[mikeytherat]

28. That song was written in...the 1920s!

By Memphis Minnie and Kansas Joe McCoy.

Seems like simple blues artists understood this very real possibility almost 100 years ago, but modern politicians and talking heads seem so surprised -- perhaps they need to listen to more music?

mikey_the_rat

[Viking12]

42. They wrote it because it happened

In the late twenties the Mississippi flooded, sharecroppers were forced at gunpoint to work on the levees in chain gangs, it kept on raining and the levees broke killing the sharecroppers and flooding half the state of Mississippi.

[mikeytherat]

69. No! You are a lying liberal!

Just because that flood is an historic fact, does not mean it happened then, or has ever happened in the history of the world!

I mean, last year here in Richmond VA, we missed getting hit by Hurricane Gaston. We just got five hours of steady rain from the remnants; flooded sections of our city nicely, it did.

No, wait. It didn't! I mean, slow heavy rains NEVER accompany a huge tropical storm, so I should just stop saying that!

mikey_the_rat
(no sarcasm tag necessary, as this post is just a-drippin' with it)

[sendero]

71. oops..

post deleted because I screwed up :)

[mikeytherat]

111. No harm, no foul

mikey_the_rat

[AbbyR]

138. 1929 flood

Just had the 75th anniversary, I think. Photos might still be up at the Corps of Engineers site, but I'm not sure. It took out many many acres throughout the south. People were guarding the levees so that no one would break the ones upstream to save New Orleans and bigger cities down south. People (blacks) were forced to work to keep the levees up - many died.

[kahleefornia]

7. maybe he doesn't get cable at the ranch

because Discovery channel did a whole show about it a couple of years ago. Must not also read, since National Geographic talked about it as well.

But, no, if you're not what they call a "thinking" type of person, you wouldn't think it could happen, no. What a jackass.

[carnie_sf]

40. Are you kidding?

Bush read?

[iNViSiGOD]

63. Bush Read?

The man can barely speak more that 7 words without stoping to think and then continuing.

[Up2Late]

48. I don't think he can get cable out in the boonies of Crawford.

I know for sure, he did NOT have cable before the 2000 "election."

[xxqqqzme]

105. Bill Moyers devoted an episode of NOW

from the loss of funding, impossibility of evacuating the population, to the lack of preparedness, and what could happen over a year ago.

[tabasco]

133. President Bush: "I didn't get the memo!"

He sounds like a slacker at work making excuses for not having something done. Does he really think we haven't noticed the dire warnings for the last decade? The Corps of Engineers warned him and so did many others. The welfare of the American People is simply not the priority of the robber barons. They are operating to steal as much as they can before they are finally deposed. I hope this disaster makes it clear to the People what the neocon agenda is all about.

THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR DROWN.

[Bluerthanblue]

8. he said it- "I don't think" anything after that was a lie-

after all, he doesn't read newspapers- OR briefings as we've found to the sad peril of many many untimely deaths.

may he never learn to live with his irresponsibility.

[Wickerman]

9. Mr. Bush, could you please read the title of the FEMA report for the court

"Uh, Mr. Chairman, I believe that report was called, 'Levies likely to breech in the event of severe tropical storms'".

[Lost-in-FL]

73. Lol

[tanyev]

10. Didn't these people ever play pretend when they were kids?

Not a single one of them seems to have the imagination of a flea. Or they claim not to. They can get pretty ingenious when it comes to ways to make money and circumvent the law.

[CoffeeCat]

11. SOMEONE TELL THIS HUMAN TRASH TO STOP LYING!!!!

I don't think I have EVER been more angry about B*sh's lies.

Amid a devastating and heartbreaking disaster--the man still continues to make covering his tracks priority one.

I want to walk up to the man, grab him by the shirt collar and tell him to shut the fuck up.

He never stops working it. He never stops lying and protecting his own ass. People are drowning, dying and mayhem ensues all around him--and STILL--his own self preservation is tantamount.

I rarely watch television, but I've seen a couple of documentaries on NOLA and how vulnerable it is to flooding, due to the city being below sea level. Most people have heard of these dangers, and it's damn well the President's FRICKIN JOB to know basic facts about United States geography.

QUIT LYING AND GIVING SPEECHES THAT ONLY SERVE TO COVER YOUR SELFISH, GUILTY, CRIMINAL, THUG BUTT!!!!!

I am just so sick of this reptile!!!

[mnhtnbb]

22. AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hertopos]

12. Well, unlike 9-11...

He cannot blame terrorists. At the same time, everyone is watching what is happening over there and make many people wonder about why the government is so disorganized. Then, unlike 9-11, we will start seeing many facts revealed in the media. F**k him, they even fired a Republican who recommended funding for the preventive measure. As a Democrat, I recommend to focus on 'global warming' than how incompetent they are. That's for Louisiana Governor and senator. ( Thank God, they are both woman.) Catastrophic deserters shake up people. 9-11 somehow change many American into the wrong direction. I am hoping Katrina change many people back to the reality.

Hertopos

[Deep13]

13. "Thank God, they are both woman."

Me just man. Me no understand gov-ah-ment. Me need Neosporin for dragging knuckles.

[hertopos]

27. Ok, let me explain

Governer of Louisiana and senator, both of them reminded me of those widows of 9-11.

Sorry but lately women Dem tends to have more balls.

Hertopos

[thereismore]

74. But he can blame the environmentalists for gas shortages

(could not build more refineries, you know).

[Name removed]

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[Julius Civitatus]

21. Bullshit! -- He did cut the budget for the levee maintenance

and also cut the budget for FEMA. And also sent half the National Guard to Iraq.

Tell me, just WHEN is it a good time to make this guy responsible for ANYTHING he has done?

[Name removed]

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[phusion]

64. LOL

:rofl:

[kittenpants]

67. Is that a joke or is this guy serious?

He's funny either way!

[bvar22]

68. MODERATORS. Please don't delete this guy.

PLEASE leave these posts up.
They are a PERFECT representation of the bush* supporter!!!

I BEG you to leave these posts up!!!

[thereismore]

76. At least you're going down shouting. Nice knowing you, freep. n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

79. Maybe, but we love you all the same.

[thebigidea]

81. as opposed to the kind of freak who would glorify Bush like a Roman God

go sacrifice cattle to your deathgod, drone.

[stevietheman]

99. Perhaps it's time to open up a history book?

I would guess that you couldn't possibly be any older than a teenager who has just become politically aware, and raised in a staunch right-wing family. You haven't been exposed much to the real world if you actually think Bush is the "greatest President". (And you probably rely on Fox News for all the information about your world, to boot)

And if you're actually a lot older than I think, then sadly, your position is historically disoriented at best, and at worst, well, I'm too moral to say those words here.

In the most rational of terms, to declare someone the "greatest", who _everyone knows_ delayed his response to the hurricane disaster, and who, obvious to all by now, lied the nation into the Iraq war, is 1) the equivalent of beating a hornet's nest with a stick for fun (understandable if you're a teenager), or a 2) sign of abject stupidity and/or wanton destruction of the republic.

[Ganja Ninja]

120. America's greatest president

America's greatest Republican

As presidents go he sucks hard.

[Igel]

127. He cut the proposals.

And, in other news, he proposed cutting proposals.

They spent over $400 million in SE Louisiana. Something like $250 million had been proposed to be spent.

Less than half the overall NG is in Iraq. Somewhat more than half of Louisiana's is in Iraq. But the amount of NG heading to SELA is greater than all of LA's NG.

The third that remained could have been called up on Sunday. But wasn't.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

23. Peter Parker reminds me the budget was not only not upgraded but CUT.

[bvar22]

46. Bullshit....Republican LIES.

bush* defunded the Clinton Disaster Mitigation System (Oct.2000).

Thousands would have been saved. The levees might have been upgraded had this program been in place! Funding WAS AVAILABLE under the Democrats.

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=24745

But under bush* the top 1% got a HUGE Tax Break and bush* got his War on the Iraqi People instead!


Republican propaganda Bullshit!!!!

The Republican Ownership Society




The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[unblock]

50. anyone who ever THINKS about a levee worries about it holding.

there's absolutely NOTHING ELSE to think about a levee. it's entire reason for existence is to hold against higher water. so the ONLY thing to think about is whether or not it will hold.

[KnaveRupe]

61. Yes, Karl. Whatever you say, Karl.

Whenever a republican says "we shouldn't try to assign blame here", it's because he's the one to blame. Whenever a republican says "I hope nobody tries to play politics with this", it's because they are politically vulnerable.

Fucking news flash:

We are ALL victims of this disaster called the Bush Administration. And the best way to help ALL of the victims of this disaster is to end it.

Anything less is like helping the victims of the NO flood by praying for rain.

[Jacobin]

16. Please tell me he didn't say that

I mean, I have zero respect for this inbred dweeb, but good gawd, the levee system being overwhelmed was the reason for the corp of engineers budget requests for money in the last couple of years that his administration CUT.

There are documentaries, newspaper articles and all the rest warning how important this was.

nevermind. he's capable of anything, and lying is his natural reaction to any criticism

[mom cat]

17. RAGE.....we have got to develop a media blast of all of this! Help!

I want to do this myself, but I type slow because of some disabilities. We need to be blasting all of the info on Bush culpability. I wish that I could take this on.

[mnhtnbb]

18. Write to the media

Don't let the Liar-in-Chief get away with this. Write to the local papers and e-mail the TV stations. The MSM is too damned lazy to look up the facts. They just spew whatever garbage lies come out of Bush's mouth and pass it off as fact.

Take to the streets, if we have to. Bushco MUST NOT get away with these lies.

[mnhtnbb]

19. Here's the media link

Use this link to find and contact your media.

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/

[SteppingRazor]

20. Popular Mechanics predicted this... oddly, on 9/11/01:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282151.html

From the magazine's 9/11/01 issue:

"In New Orleans, you never get above sea level, so you're always going to be isolated during a strong hurricane," says Kay Wilkins of the southeast Louisiana chapter of the American Red Cross.

During a strong hurricane, the city could be inundated with water blocking all streets in and out for days, leaving people stranded without electricity and access to clean drinking water. Many also could die because the city has few buildings that could withstand the sustained 96- to 100-mph winds and 6- to 8-ft. storm surges of a Category 2 hurricane. Moving to higher elevations would be just as dangerous as staying on low ground. Had Camille, a Category 5 storm, made landfall at New Orleans, instead of losing her punch before arriving, her winds would have blown twice as hard and her storm surge would have been three times as high.

[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

43. You liberal elitist latte-sipping, evolution-believin' science-worshipper!

[SteppingRazor]

52. I take my coffee black, and I swig it down...

But I'll agree with the rest :evilgrin:

[Lost-in-FL]

80. You forgot...

Devil loving-pot smoking-baby killing-atheism sucking son-of-bitches...
:sarcasm:

[Coexist]

24. Isn't it his job to prepare for national emergencies?

Isn't he supposed to hire people who are specialists in this sort of thing?

Idiot. Loser. Child. Whiner.

I don't know what else to say. He should resign in shame.

[peacetalksforall]

25. They need to put duct tapes over all their mouths until they learn

that we demand credibility.

Everytime I hear these stupid things I tell myself they are only talking to their voting base - about 27-37% of the really gullible people in this nation.

[grace0418]

26. grace0418: "FUCK OFF YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!"

Only people with eyes and a couple of brain cells could've imagined this. You callous, ignorant, greedy, mother-fucking asshole.

edited to say: this was directed at the original quote, not the original poster.

[understandinglife]

29. Cogent. Crystal Clear. Thank you!

Peace.

[LSK]

30. didnt National Geographic do a prediction story a year ago

And it turned out to be 100% true??? Does someone have a link to that???

[Pacifist Patriot]

35. Check this out...note the date it was published.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282151.html

[kenny blankenship]

32. It's time to remove him from power and replace him with

someone who doesn't have such severe mental limitations.

Many people have anticipated the breach of the levees. That is why Louisiana officials and others have begged for money to repair and raise the levees. That's why they objected when money budgetted for that purpose was cut drastically to fund the war for George's sandbox.

The man is an incompetent idiot, a liar and a murderer. We should demand his removal.

[Raster]

33. My dear Julius, you sound surprised. * is a liar. He lies.

And not a very good liar at that. * and his cronies are so arrogant they believe they still have some credibility left. If *'s lips are moving, he is lying. Period.

[FrenchieCat]

34. Come on.....

[nolabels]

36. Yea bush and the whole world is as dumb as you think they are

:rofl:

[Pacifist Patriot]

37. Was someone "interviewing" him?

If so the person should be fired for not doing their fucking job and challenging him with the facts.

[HarveyBrooks]

75. Diane Sawyer...

did the interview. I guess she's considered a journalist.

[Pacifist Patriot]

78. Not today. How disappointing.

[Up2Late]

38. You took the words right out of my mouth, Un-F*cking Believable

They've been warning about this since the levees were built! I mean Really, I could understand this type of response from "Joe Trailer-park," but not from a guy who spent years running for President.

It's like "Joe Trailer-park" saying, "I don't think anyone ever anticipated that a Mobile Home could be destroyed by a Tornado" (or a Hurricane). :banghead: :mad:

[Arkana]

39. No, because they didn't care to.

Now that it's happened and they realize they were caught flat-footed, he's backing away and feigning surprise.

[janetle]

41. On CNN at least three times.....

....before Katrina hit, they replayed the doomsday scenario articulated by a hurricane expert that pretty much outlined exactly this---how New Orleans would become a bowl of toxic soup because of levees being breached. This was filmed a year ago.

I WANT CLINTON--he'd be down there hugging these people and pulling them out of the boats--a real honest to goodness leader who cares about us.

[tridim]

77. I want Clinton too.. But honestly if Bush went down there

He'd probably be beaten to a bloody pulp within minutes.

[jackster]

129. I heard someone interviewed in Mississippi say

"The president don't need to be president no more. He ain't doing his job!"

Then the man went on to say that he had had no food and only 1 small container of water in 2 days and he was getting desperate. He said he was poor and had no means to do anything with so that he was going to take some gasoline out of a empty car nearby so he could go somewhere for help. If anyone wanted to call that looting, that would be fine with him, but to him it was SURVIVAL!

Did I hear this on AAR?

[Done]

146. I still want shrub to go down there

:evilgrin:

[info being]

44. then fund the people who CAN ANTICIPATE IT!!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

45. He is so full of shit, it's not funny any more

This was the advisory that was issued on SUNDAY, the day before the Storm. There is no way that he should not have know about this. Anyone with internet connection had access to this info. He's supposed to have better access to info then the rest of us.

This was issued on Sunday afternoon, BEFORE KATRINA HIT.


WWUS74 KLIX 282139
NPWLIX

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA...
...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS.

LAZ038-040-050-056>070-MSZ080>082-290300-
ASSUMPTION-HANCOCK-HARRISON-JACKSON-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON-
LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST. BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE-
ORLEANS-ST. CHARLES-ST. JAMES-ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST. TAMMANY-
TANGIPAHOA-UPPER JEFFERSON-UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-
UPPER ST. BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT...

HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
PERSIST FOR THE NEXT 26 TO 28 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL
ONSET AROUND MIDNIGHT NEAR THE COAST AND BY 3 AM CLOSER TO THE NEW
ORLEANS METRO AREA AND PERSIST FOR 9 TO 15 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS
AROUND 175 MPH ARE LIKELY IN THE WARNED AREA BY DAYBREAK MONDAY.

DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET!

$$

LAZ034>037-039-046>049-MSZ068>071-077-290300-
AMITE-ASCENSION-EAST BATON ROUGE-EAST FELICIANA-IBERVILLE-
PEARL RIVER-PIKE-POINTE COUPEE-ST. HELENA-WALTHALL-WASHINGTON-
WEST BATON ROUGE-WEST FELICIANA-WILKINSON-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT...

HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
SREAD NORTHWESTWARD INTO THE GREATER BATON ROUGE AREA AND
SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI LATER THIS EVENING. TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO ONSET AROUND 9 PM TONIGHT AND PERSIST
FOR 22 TO 26 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL ONSET AROUND
DAYBREAK AND PERSIST FOR ABOUT 5 TO 10 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND
GUSTS OF 80 TO 90 MPH ARE POSSIBLE IN EAST-CENTRAL LOUISIANA
AND SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI.

DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET

[unblock]

47. bush: "i don't think anyone could have anticipated the setting sun'

banana republicans: utterly incompetent and damn proud of it!

[LSK]

49. Hurricane "Pam"

"In the years since then, local officials have warned that a catastrophic storm was inevitable and sought more funding to improve the area's hurricane preparedness to handle larger storms. In July 2004, for instance, federal, state and local officials staged a simulation in which a "Hurricane Pam" slammed into New Orleans with 120 m.p.h. winds and created havoc that was eerily similar to that of Hurricane Katrina, including widespread building damage and death.

"Since 1995, we've been replaying these scenarios out in various degrees. As we got together to do these, the people in the parishes would say, `Make them as bad as possible so we can get some attention,' " said Suhayda, who participated in the Hurricane Pam exercises."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-050831corps-story,1,2364215.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
at the bottom of page 1.

[MADem]

51. That exercise was likely based on Typhoon Pamela

...which for some odd reason, everyone pronounced PamEEELEEEah...it fucking flattened Guam, took out an entire base, a couple of decades back--that was a major mess!

[LSK]

53. so Bush should have known about that

Hes either totally incompetent or the best liar on the face of the earth. I vote for both.

[MADem]

57. Ole Rummy sure should have

It's in the 1976 command history files, and was a wx phenom that is still studied today. The stuff that got destroyed was just incredible...it was a complete and utter mess... some guy who lived through it put pics up on the web (warning to dial uppers, pic heavy)http://www.edsanders.com/typhoon/pamela.htm

EDIT for clarity--Rummy was IN THE WHITE HOUSE with CHENEY when Pamela hit--Rummy was Ford's Chief of Staff, Cheney was his deputy.

How soon they forget?????

[Postman]

54. Who could have foreseen planes flying into buildings??

n/t

[FreeStateDemocrat]

56. Either he thinks we're all dumb as a bag of hammers or he's wholly clueles

[mrfocus]

59. How could this despicable human being have SMIRKED when talking about

the victims of Katrina?

Does he really lack ALL feelings of empathy? I knew that he has narcissistic personality disorder, but that was a new low even for the Lil' Prince

[kittenpants]

60. If only we could have anticipated the hurricane hitting New Orleans...

if only there were weather maps or projection models of this type of thing... *sigh* If only we could have anticipated a city under sea level getting hit by a level 5 hurricane being flooded!:argh:

[maxsolomon]

62. who could have foreseen bush being a complete idiot?

only 95% of the entire fucking planet.

[bvar22]

65. Only the entire US Weather Beaureau anticipated this.

When the Storm reached Cat 5, a 27'Storm Surge WAS PREDICTED!
The Storm Surge was predicted to "Top the Levees" in New orleans.
This was at least 24 hrs before Katrina hit New Orleans!!!

This was FORECAST and BROADCASTED Nationwide 24 hrs BEFORE Katrina flooded New Orleans!

[thereismore]

66. Now his right side of mouth is drooping. I don't get it.

It's usually his left hand side. He looks like a deer in the headlights, or a trapped rat I should say. Those black beady eyes. I do not like you Mr. resident.

[jenmito]

94. What I hate even more-

is when he sticks his little rat-like tongue out of his frown. I can't take it anymore!

[Lost-in-FL]

70. People is watching him...

Time... is on our side...:evilgrin:

[Arugula Latte]

82. WTF?!?!

Let me rephrase that:

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!

[Inland]

83. ANOTHER DU JOKE COMES TRUE; FOR TWO DAYS DU HAS BEEN

POSTING THIS LINE FOR OUR GENERAL AMUSEMENT AND SCORN and Bush comes right out and says it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4516160

I made another joke about a press release showing Bush peering out the little window of AF1 as if flies over NO from his vacation to DC, and sure enough, someone at the WH decided to do just that.


Haven't they the slightest bit of sense? Or is it purely desparation that they know how shitty and stupid it's going to look to 90% of America, but that's the best play they have right now?

[DirtyDawg]

84. What Tommy Lasorda said...

For those that ever heard Tommy Lasorda's reply to a question from a radio interviewer following a Dodger loss to whoever Dave Kingman was playing for the night he hit four home runs (the question was: 'What do you have to say about Dave Kingman's performance tonight?'...well that's the only response I can think of for bush's comment here.

By the way, his, Lasorda's reply, which he repeated a dozen or more times, was: 'Jeeesus f**kin' Christ...Jeeesus f**ckin' Christ...How in hell can you ask me that?...Jeesus f**cking' Christ...Dave Kingman?...Jeesus f**ckin' Christ....'


You get the picture.

[Dr Fate]

85. He is telling the truth. Seriously.

Prove me wrong- show me an elected Democrat, on TV, who offers a different take- who directly counters Bush's specific statement.


If you cant, then most Americans will have to assume he is telling the "truth."

[Dudley_DUright]

86. Can you say "criminal negligence"?

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[ronnykmarshall]

87. Someone in press please grow a pair!

There is so much out there that debunks what that asshole just said.

[Dr Fate]

90. Why cant Kerry, Dean, Hilary or Obama go on TV and call him on this?

How is it the job of the GOP owned media to repeat research done by the Democratic base?

[Imagevision]

112. Dr. Fate> it's politics and elections coming in 06 - no-one chances

taking a stand for fear of public uncertainty in poll booths

[Dr Fate]

115. No one likes Bush anymore. It is "safe" to tell the truth about him now.

Telling the truth about Bush and his party is the best way to win in '06.

Letting Bush & the media define this issue is NOT the way to weaken them for '06.

Unfortunatley, the strategists who lost the last 3 elections agree with you and not me.

[YankeeFan]

148. Where IS Hillary and Obama Anyway?

They are losing a Golden Moment here.

If they do not make an appearance soon and blast the Bush Leaguer they will be giving Freepers joy about "Where were you when the levees broke? Where were you when they needed help? Don't you care about anybody else buy yourself?"

If Hillary doesn't get some air time soon, or at least an article in The New York Times about what we should be doing, I'm going to have a hard time believing in her if she tries to become President in 2008.

[volitionx]

88. CHIMPEACH THE FUCKING LIAR

Maybe Bush didn't know that anyone else anticipated the levees breaching, because Bush NEVER INFORMS HIMSELF ON ANYTHING ABOUT THE WORLD THE REST OF US LIVE IN.

Or maybe he's just LYING LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES.

What a fucking ASSHOLE.

Covering his fucking ass AGAIN, as always.

I loathe him with the fire of a thousand suns.

[jenmito]

89. There's a press conference now.

Who wants to bet no reporter asks about this?!

[Dr Fate]

91. But Dean, Kerry & Hilary will shout the truth from the roof-tops!!!!

Oh what a proud moment it will be.

[jenmito]

96. You really think so?

DEAN I can see, but I imagine Kerry and H. Clinton saying, "We're all Americans now."

[Dr Fate]

97. Just like Dean's tireless DSM TV media campaign.

Remember all of his TV interviews this Summer where he made
"The Downing Street Memo" a house hold phrase, on the level of "Monica"?

Sure- Dean will be the one.

[jenmito]

100. I think...

Boxer will be the one as well as Dean. But not Kerry nor Clinton.

[jenmito]

102. "This is the time for the country to come together...

It's NOT a time for finger-pointing or politics." :eyes: McClellan just said this in response to a question about how prepared we were for this and then another question regarding underfunding due to diverting funds to Iraq. He has used "natural disaster" about 50 times so far.

[Dr Fate]

104. And all the top Democrats will allow Bush to define it that way.

Unless someone can show me that they fired the strategists who lost the last 3 elections, this is my prediction.

[jenmito]

106. I agree.

Dems. need to stand up and call them out on their lies already!

[Dr Fate]

109. The top DEMs are incapable. Someone, please, prove me wrong.

They did not do it on the Iraq War, 9-11 "mistakes", election fraud in 2000, 2002 & 2004, Gannon/media propaganda, the DSM, the Swift-boats- why am I supposed to expect them to change now?

[jenmito]

116. Sorry...

We CAN'T prove you wrong. (I know Wesley Clark has spoken out about the Iraq war, said he would've fought back right away about the SBVs, and has also spoken positively about Cindy Sheehan).

[YankeeFan]

149. What is REALLY Bothering me

What really is bothering me is that the Governor of Louisiana is a Democrat and The Resident declared the State of Louisiana a Federal Disaster Area the day before the hurricane landed.

And then she was very slow ordering the looting stopped.

Freepers are having all sorts of good fun with those facts.

I hate to say it, but so far he's been doing a better job down there than Governor Janet Blanco.

:argh:

[Dr Fate]

103. I predict all "star" DEMs will give him a free pass.

They will even sit by while the media blames them & Clinton- just like they did over 9-11.

The strategists who lost the last 3 election do not allow them to blame Bush for anything important.

Use their handling of 9-11, pre-iraq war, the Swift-Boat vets and DSM scandal as a template for what they will do.

I'll be suprised to see a sea change at this point.

[jenmito]

108. Yes, but

At least a couple people in the press are getting tough, "bringing politics and pointing fingers." How DARE they (according to McClellan).

[Dr Fate]

110. They risk losing their press passes.

n/t

[jenmito]

113. That's ok.

Then we can have an investigation as to WHY they lost their passes. :)

[Dr Fate]

114. Suuuure. Just like the Election Fraud & DSM investigations.

n/t

[jenmito]

117. Conyers is trying his best...

But nobody gives him the exposure.

[Dr Fate]

121. Exactly. But Kerry, Dean & Hilary could give him that exposure.

They could have showed up to his hearings, testifies at them, or at the least, freaking MENTIONED those hearings in a TV interview.

[jenmito]

122. And the fact that they didn't

Shows they are not the right candidates for president.

[confludemocrat]

128. Well yeah "star" Dems want more troops in Iraq, i.e., more Nat'l Guard

They are part and parcel of this sorry fuckup, these bigfoot Democrats.

[Dr Fate]

136. And we begged and begged them to listen tho their base.

But they were too frightened that Sean Hannity and other proven liars would compare them to Micheal Moore.

[Liberal Isti]

92. WAS HE ALWAYS THIS STUPID OR DID HE JUST GROW THAT WAY?????

:rant:

He's just too stupid to put two and two together and realize...hm....cut funding for important structure that prevent devestation.....devestation occurs.....

BITE MY ASS!!!! :grr: :banghead: And,if he is intelligent enough to realize this is ALL HIS FAULT, just look at him. Not even a vague look of guilt and sympathy. He looked more upset when he mispronounced ah-boo ghah-ra-reb.

I have to keep believing the man is just an idiot because if I believed any human was capable of being so heartless, I don't think I'd ever stop crying.

[Bullshot]

93. The Bush administration comes up with another alibi.

They were totally unprepared. Check that. They made this country less prepared for such a disaster, even though the federal government has been putting more emphasis on the Mississippi Basin for grain shipments at the expense of the Great Lakes. The Chicago Board of Trade recently placed more emphasis on Mississippi River ports for national grain storage and phased out Great Lakes ports. Locks are being upgraded on the river to accommodate larger barges. Grain prices paid to farmers are more tied to the condition of the Mississippi ports.

Personally, I think you need to be diverse and not have all of your eggs in one basket. Yeah, upgrade the river's locks, but keep our Great Lake ports up-to-date in the event such an emergency occurs and our shipments come to a screeching halt.

More of that Washington foresight, I guess.

[stevietheman]

95. Bush needs to resign TODAY. n/t

n/t

[ibegurpard]

101. Horseshit

They've been warning of the effects of something like this on New Orleans for YEARS. And yet the budget for projects to shore up and protect the city was cut.

[liberal N proud]

107. The president who lived in a bubble

[KansDem]

118. Is this the best they can do?

:wow:

[The Backlash Cometh]

119. HE'S INCOMPETENT GOD DAMMIT!! CAN'T YOU RIGHT-WINGERS

SEE IT!

Damn. That's the first post I've ever written in all caps.

[rat618]

124. Kyra ? on CNN

What a great lady who is now on CNN. She is ripping every official, military, and political hack that she has on. The Brig Gen kept saying there was help on the scene but the media wasn't showing the "good" pictures,there was only isolated pockets of people left bascially for dead. Complete bullshit.

Go get'em girl.

[snappyturtle]

131. No, they can't see it.........

not even when it's happening to their sheeple!! :banghead: It's as if they're in some kind of dream world and they don't want to leave. I talked to one of the sheeple this morning and she expressed the hope that the American people would take this time during this national diaster to unite! and "work with" the adminisration!!!! I just don't get it. I fear that if we speak out about the gross mishandling of the victims, the powers that be will take that as being anti-American, or as being a terrorist, or whatever they're currently calling dissention.
I cannot comprehend a president sitting on his hands for days--well, maybe he was finishing his reading about SALT or finishing My Pet Goat.........he is so-o busy. BTW where's the Congress??? Where's Cheney? (I heard he's still on vacation in WY). If all of these people could hurry back to Washington for Terry Shiavo why can't they show up now----for millions of distressed, living, citizens? UNFORGIVEABLE!!!

[Robeson]

143. No they really can't. They are as brainwashed as Moonies....

...a freepazoid lurker further up in this thread said he was the greatest President ever. When someone is that brainwashed, they are beyond repair.

[tulsakatz]

123. it's their MO

lie, lie and when all else fails, lie yet again!!!

Even Condi's response to 9/11 was a lie! Apparently the Republicans under Bush couldn't have the imagination to think that people might fly planes into buildings but Richard Clarke under Clinton imagined that!

[Paradise]

125. Evidently, sheeple buy and eat "bullcrap".

They never get tired of it...

[TommyO]

126. The bastards replaced the video! (nt)

[Julius Civitatus]

135. Now they only have a small excerpt of the interview

Not the whole thing

[krkaufman]

139. The critical bits are sure to be found elsewhere on the 'Net soon.

Like at CrooksAndLiars.com. Specifically, here, once C&L are supplied the video.

[Wizard777]

130. Every morning at dawn.

The White House is panic stricken and thrown into chaos as a menacing ball of fire comes over the Horizin. No one could have anticipated this impending doom. Live in fear we're all going to die. We must attack the ball of fire now! We can't allow the terrorists to see that we are weak minded. Our Leader, George Bush, would have taken astronomy to better understand this ball of fire threatening the nation this day. Just like it did yesterday. But astronomy exceeed his two sallalable limit on words. So he was unable to inform the admissions director that he needed to take the course.

Here comes the Son. DU DU DU DU. Here comes the Son and I say, What a fuckin' Moron!

New Education promotional poster. A photo of Arlington West next to a photo the Bodies piled up in the NOLA make shift morgue.

KIDS ONE DAY YOU COULD BE PRESIDENT.


THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T KEEP YOUR GRADES ABOVE C LEVEL.

[Imagevision]

132. Army Corps of Engineers budget for levee construction in NO. is slashed!

<snip>
June 2004: The Army Corps of Engineers budget for levee construction in New Orleans is slashed. Jefferson Parish emergency management chiefs Walter Maestri comments: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay."


June 2005: Funding for the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is cut by a record $71.2 million. One of the hardest-hit areas is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_09/007023.php


http://downingstreetmemo.com /

[samsingh]

134. if by anyone he means him or condi

he may be onto something.

[Generator]

137. Maybe Bush WILL kill us all

Really fucking unbelievable. I went to New Orleans/Gulf coast once in 1991. I LOVED it. I loved that city. So unique. And the people, The Blacks, the Whites, the Cajuns were some of the nicest people I've ever met. Anybody that ever goes there KNOWS the levees could break and that NO was always this close to a disaster. Everyone holds their breath everytime hurricane season comes around and I suppose it would be too much for Bush to even watch the fucking weather channel for five minutes.

GOD deliver us from this nightmare. It's bad enough that nature can be such a killer but this idiocy is killing us.

[BlueJac]

141. It Is Scary to think that man is President

[nadinbrzezinski]

142. Nobody anticipated planes hitting tall buildings

that is their MO

[thinkingwoman]

144. I did.

I'm a 40 year old woman from the midwest with no engineering training or experience.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense could anticipate the levees breaking under that much pressure.

What a moron. We deserve better.

[cosmicdot]

145. one-two punch: Cindy and Katrina n/m

[alfredo]

147. Arrrgghhh!!!

I will make sure everyone knows about this.