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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:32 PM
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I'm sorry, emails from Dems ain't gonna cut it for me today...
They should all be screaming to anyone that will listen.

Start a special session without the Republicans if they have to... just as long as the do something.
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eddiebrowns Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:35 PM
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1. Agreed
The entire federal government has let people in Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana down whether by action or inaction
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:35 PM
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2. They ARE doing things.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 01:35 PM by Vash the Stampede
Since when has the media covered them? Since when do we have the power to call a special session of Congress? Has Nancy Pelosi not already demanded that Congress convene for an emergency session? Have you not looked before screaming yourself? Do you follow politics at all?
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:38 PM
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6. FKNG meetings and photo ops from the GOP
That's all the WH is doing. Let them politizice the tragedy. You have not seen DEMS because they know it is not the time for that.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:40 PM
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7. Welcome to DU!
And thank god we have another voice of reason around here!
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:18 PM
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12. Oh don't worry. It is never time for that with our guys.
No stomach for a fight.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:36 PM
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3. Curious.....how do Democrats get their message out if video media
doesn't give them the airtime?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:37 PM
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4. Hmm hve you called your rep
hell have you given them any tools? Look I just got off the phone wiht Boxer's office and even gave them some ideas to do an end run around the Executive, whcih they are now considering. So why don't you stop complainting and call yuor office? Find out what they are doing?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:38 PM
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5. It's much easier to bitch on an internet forum
than it is to actually do something or even just pay attention to the world around them. :dunce:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:00 PM
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10. Good point maybe I should rant
RANT.

There I feel much better.

now I can rant about DiFi... that was like oh talking to a wall... brick wall, my head hurts.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:42 PM
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8. So, do all of you experts know what I have done today?
Quit making excuses for the Democratic leadership already. No one is buying it.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:43 PM
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9. AMEN. You can't blame just one side here. They are all responsible.
Maybe we DO need a new party to support. The Democratic Party anymore is not standing for what I always believed. I may sound extremist; however, there is no excuse for what is going on.

Somebody needs to get off their asses and quit giving us excuses about why things are not getting done. I'm tired of excuses, do something NOW.

Don't we pay these people? Don't we pay these people really, really well? Didn't they all have a month's or more vacation for the second time this past year? Don't we pay for a better retirement package then any of us have plus medical care? Time to fire some sorry ass.

Don't you think so????
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:15 PM
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11. What I believe...from earlier post.
Regretably, this is what I believe about most of our dem leaders. There are too many examples of rolling over and benign neglect of issues for me to believe that our dems in congress, as a group, are representing us. Nothing new for a lot of us I think, but well put in the linked article and worth a save.

In this important battle, it is good to understand who's team you're on.


Entire August 31 article at Counterpunch: http://counterpunch.org/walsh08312005.html

The Democrats and the War

By JOHN WALSH

Standard fare in the mainstream media as well as in both Left and Libertarian blogs, web sites and magazines, is that the Democrats are spineless. But this view simply does not fit the facts, and it is dangerous to boot, because it leads us to underestimate one of our most sinister and cynical pro-war adversaries, the Democratic Party establishment. For, if left to their own devices, the Dems will do what Kucinich warned of and substitute a Democratic for a Republican version of the war on Iraq.

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No, the idea of the spineless but virtuous Democrat does not hold up. The real reason has to be that the Dems do not give a damn about the electorate. The Dem establishment must in fact favor the war. And the reason is not hard to find. They play to the same real but hidden constituencies as the Republicans ­ the oil tycoons, AIPAC, the barons of the military industrial complex and those who make their fortunes from empire, ranging from the banks to Bechtel. This is their class and if one of the pols dares play traitor to his class, he or she will soon be an outcast. Ask Ted Kennedy. When Kennedy called for immediate withdrawal from Iraq last January, he was virtually denounced by the rest of the Dem leadership. And although the media is afflicted with many and mortal problems, do not tell me that the media makes it impossible for the Dems to take a strong anti-war position. When Kennedy did so, it was all over the media from the front pages of the dailies to the Sunday morning TV talk shows.


The Dems know full well there is an enormous anti-war constituency out there. If they used their considerable resources to organize it and give voice to it, then it would quickly prevail. A sorry example is Cindy Sheehan's effort. Not a single major Democrat has shown up at Camp Casey. They are blowing off Sheehan just like Bush

end excerpt
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:48 PM
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13. No, they shouldn't.

Never scream. Never rant, never vituperate, and never be shrill. The only people it convinces are the ones who already agree with you. Don't get andry often, don't let it show when you do, and when you do let it show do so by listing irrefutable facts, and nothing more.

Think of the kind of Republicans you'd be least confident in debating against, and emulate them. *Never* scream at people.

Remember, the objective is to convince those people who *don't* agree with you already.
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