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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:35 PM
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My post about the Cooper/Landrieu interview....I regret I posted it.
I really did not say much that was that bad. But I am sorry I did now. It was the interview with Cooper. I am not saying I liked the interview now, I still don't really. But I wish I had just not said anything. It sort of keeps escalating into more criticism. I wish I had just not said anything.

After reading the forums the last two days, I can see that not a single thing our Democrats say right now will be acceptable. People are just too angry. I am, too.

People call on Democrats to speak out, and when they give a measured response....they get bashed. They will be damned if they do and damned if they don't. Maybe they are right to hold off.

I understand what they are doing. They are trying not to politicize the situation right at this moment. I appreciate that and understand it. I think they are communicating and planning, but I understand the hesitancy to turn this into an even more angry thing.

I understand more today about the difficult positions Landrieu and Blanco are in. They are being positioned to take the blame. It is pretty evident today. It is the Republicans who are calling for us to make a plan and speak out so they don't have to do it...and the media does it because they helped the Republicans screw us by banging the drums for them.

All of us are angry, and those of us who went through all the big hurricanes last year feel some extra pain. The helpless kind, where you lose a sense of security you once had about your life.

I would rather she have answered differently, but I have tried to see both sides. I would rather see all of them on TV being critical, but maybe it is better they not do it.

Whatever the case, it is hard to post here for the anger. So I wish I had not added to it with that post.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:40 PM
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1. lots of anger..lots of regrets All easy to understand considerng the
situation
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:48 PM
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2. Your handle is certainlty appropriate today!
We're all very angry. I want to roast Bush's intestines on a stick and his dog dead.

Just kidding about the dog. Barney is a prisoner.

But I wouldn't want to be in Landrieu's or Blanco's shoes.

The Democrats are way too cautious in my opinion, though. Because most of them have been silent or even complicit in Bushco's plans over the past five years, they will continue to be damned no matter what they do or say.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:49 PM
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3. Everyone is upset, so don't worry about it
I called Landrieu's office right after the interview and, in as nice and respectful a voice as I could muster, I asked the staffer to ask the Senator if she would please stop thanking politicians. I said a few other things, mainly about the top priority being getting food, water, and formula to the thousands trapped at the Convention Center. But I was not angry or disrespectful.

I think she did all the thanking, especially to Bush, because she knows her state will need much from him and that she will be a key player in that. Don't tick off the guy you need billions from. But when we are all upset, it's easy to get very angry when you see the pols playing the game, even when they have to play the game.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:50 PM
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4. Understandable. As I watched the Big Show at the airport in NO,
with the sputtering misleader stumbling through a spaghetti of random thoughts that roll through his infantile brain (sorry to insult infants), I was watching the face of Blanco - she was not smiling at all, and in fact put her notebook up to her face to hide when she was prompting the village idioit as he mangled and forgot parish and volunteer names. when she got her chance to talk and hugged him, I almost vomited, then realized that this is a time when games need to be played to get what is needed. I am trying to be very understanding of the Dem leaders down there - if they reacted the way that many of us have the last few days, with unfettered lashes of anger, it would do nothing to help the victims. It is so hard to be patient when we see so many struggling, abetted by the utter failure of this misadministration.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:53 PM
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5. where is Obama?
I have not seen or heard anything from him.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:54 PM
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7. Hiding in the tall grass with the rest of the Dems.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:53 PM
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6. The opposition party must oppose -otherwise they are just the "me too"
party.

If the Dems know that the rethugs were wrong and short sighted in their budget cuts they must speak out or they are not worth anything.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:57 PM
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8. Sen. Landreiu has done a lot to try and solve the problem....
in LA and the South in general. She's not a fire brand like Boxer but her sole mission in Congress seems to be getting aid for her state. She has bowed down and shoveled shit to get money to revitalize the wetlands and when she finally gets what she came for, Katrina hits. I swear, this lady has no luck. The Energy Bill opened the door for the Gulf states to start recieving royalties for off-shore drilling. She demanded $2 billion a year but got $200 million. To do this, she threatened to band with the other Gulf states and use her own version of the "nuclear option". When they asked what they was she said she had no idea but she was dead set on doing something drastic. Here's the kicker, the money was also designated as domestic funds and would have been matched 3 to 1 by the Federal Government which would have meant $800 million a year. This would have been enough to fix the wetlands and repair the levee's. With the passing of the Energy Bill, it meant the salvation of her state from catastrophic hurricanes. Ain't that a bitch.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:58 PM
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9. I missed your post, but..
understand. And, understand that some of us maybe speak up at a time when others aren't ready to hear what we have to say.

I've don'e some bloopers...but I think that what I said maybe just was a little ahead...or so it's seemed.

Don't be discouraged. I give you a :hug: I didn't apologize for my last post that got folks in a buzz...you're a good person for coming back and explaining. (BTW: being a person who lives in Hurricane Land, I understand how freaked out many of us can get with this stuff...folks don't understand what it is to go through one..and how it stays with you forever) :shrug:
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:07 PM
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10. Truth deserves no apology.
I’m not familiar with your OP, so maybe you regret the tone. Not to worry. If there’s anything that we could, would or should be passionate about, it’s the deliberate dismantling of Federal government services under the * regime.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:11 PM
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11. We are all emotionally raw.
I think I reacted in a rash amnner about an Aron Brown segment with Rep. Tubbs-Jones. I had to eat some crow.

I have read and appreciated your posts for a long time now. No one can say that you are not fighting the good fight. Continue to add some wisdom to your anger, as I will try to (seriously, I'm not that bright), and lets fight just a little bit smarter tomorrow.

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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:18 PM
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12. while peoples' lives are still in danger, partisan attacks pale...
...in importance.

Like it or not, Bush is the president, and while people are fighting for their lives, we need as much help from his team as possible.

Once people are out of danger, the cucifixion should begin. Until then, we're in this shit together. I think Landrieu and Blanco fully understand that. We pajama quarterbacks...perhaps not so much.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:01 PM
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13. Landrieu doesn't need to bite the hand that feeds her right now...
What I mean by that is that she can't piss off Bush, Frist, etc. because they are the ones who will decide how much money is spent into rebuilding New Orleans.

When all is said and done, Blanco and Landrieu will have some negative things to say about Bushco's response, but now is not the time.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:47 AM
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14. there are times when a "measured response" does not count
this week is one of those times.

bush and every republican in this country ought to be kicked right in the teeth. the republican party let this shit happen. it was not the democratic party who let down this country. it was the republican party from top to bottom whose policies and executive branch decisions across the board that led to this, from installation of political hacks who had no reason to hold the jobs they did other than feality to a bankrupt ideology.
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Be Brave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:04 AM
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15. There is nothing shameful about being able to keep one's emotions
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 01:06 AM by Be Brave
under control. I will be the last to criticize Blanco and Landrieu for keeping their cool, maintaining civility, and not lashing out in anger at the federal government and its response. Blanco, Landrieu, and others are under a lot of stress, and they may be seething in anger inside for all I know. But I also know that lashing out in anger and playing the blame game is rarely productive, especially in in an emergency. Especially in an emergency. On the contrary, it puts the people on the receiving end on the defensive. These leaders are people who still have to work with each other to fix this mess no matter what. What will it help if they start clawing at each other? And then there is also the question of leadership style. For some leaders, keeping a cool head is part of their leadership style. Cussing may work for Nagin but, quite honestly, not every leader will be comfortable with that kind of style, and not everyone can pull it off. As we all know, politics is full of nuances. Your political enemy might be smiling at you, but spewing words, in a nice way, which are in fact obliterating you. One has to read between the lines.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:09 AM
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16. madfloridian, bless you n/t
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