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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:08 AM
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My Republican friend called Bush an idiot today
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 12:09 AM by Hippo_Tron
We were talking about Nagin's remarks last night (both of us are from New Orleans) and how he called Bush on his incompetent response to the disaster. My friend replied "well yeah, Bush is an idiot."

And of course I'm thinking to myself "Gee... I've been telling you that for over a year. Why didn't you listen to me BEFORE November 2nd?"

I didn't ask the question because I knew his response would've been "Kerry was worse." I guess that's the standard respones for Republicans with buyers' remorse these days.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:12 AM
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1. nail meet hammer.
Either that one or this one: "Yes he's an idiot, but I don't want my taxes raised!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:22 AM
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7. That's also pretty much his logic
Here's basically what goes through his thought process...

"Okay first of all, I don't give a shit about anybody but me. I'm socially liberal but the only thing that really might effect me is stem cell research. But yea, I've thought about it and I'd rather hvae my tax cut than stem cell research. Bush is an idiot, but Kerry is a flip-flopper and that makes him worse. Yea I'm voting for Bush."
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:14 AM
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22. But, of course, their taxes go up anyway....I guess they are just too
stupid to notice.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:13 AM
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2. My mother has turned. FINALLY!
I love her to pieces but if ever there was a "Queen of Denial," she'd be it. Today she was talking to my husband on the phone and they were both watching Pox "news" (she does, routinely, while my guy tunes in to "see what the enemy is up to" - and was yelling at me about how Shepard Smith and Geraldo were putting the kibosh on that-guy-whose-name-rhymes-with-VANITY and his attempts to "put a little perspective on a 'small distribution problem'". Anyway, Spousal Unit comes out and announces that my mom has turned against bush. She kept talking about how "he just really let everybody down."

Uh... Mom, I've been saying that for more than five years. Better late than never, I suppose...
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:17 AM
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5. I wish I could get that
my mom was voicing racist comments today which totally disgusted me! I want to disconnect.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:12 AM
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14. OMG OKDEM I feel for you
I always advise people to not let republicans have to the power to tear you from your family but racism - that's hard to put up with......I'd have to let her have it.
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:50 AM
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17. thanks for your response
even my daughter saw it and the twenty-something crowd is intolerant of racist attitudes (a shining light).
I have always had a good relationship w/my mom but that is ending.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:19 AM
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19. now OKDem
try not to let it end.....try to work on her.....we can pick our friends but we cannot pick our families....try your hardest to get her to see the light
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:14 AM
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3. Kerry would have been far better than this sad excuse for a president.
I am so embarrassed for our country. Please, God, help us just grow up.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:16 AM
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4. Idiot just isn't a strong enough word anymore. n/t
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:18 AM
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6. total and complete failure as a human being
it should be apparent to all now. god help us all.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:27 AM
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8. "Worse" how? They can't articulate it and here we are, kee-rist.
My right-of-center, ex-military, current Iraq contractor (raking in the BIG bucks) neighbor asked me last night what it would take to impeach Bush. I guess I should be encouraged, but like you, I'm wondering what the hell these people were thinking before 11/2.
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mojavekid Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:36 AM
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9. The MSM had so many believing the garbage,
they broadcast that is supplied to them from the * Administration. I get most of my news online, Joe six-pack just tunes in as long as it is convenient. It has been a long time since network news was objective, investigative, they are Corp. owned and all about consumerism. And you can Forget cable except for that anachronism Olberman.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:51 AM
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11. I got into one of those heated e-mail exchanges with a total stranger...
today about this very topic. All she could come back with was "you liberals, blah, blah..." What a tool. I finally gave up, but at least think I got some good ones in.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:00 AM
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12. Have her try this on for size:
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN!!!

By John Gray, Cincinnati, Ohio

July - 2004

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers’ medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It’s noon time, Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dad’s; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republicans would still be sitting in the dark!)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn't tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.) Joe agrees. We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives. After all, I'm a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:06 AM
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13. An oldie but goodie! I fired that one off to the masses a while back.
She'd still come back with "you liberal, blah, blah" and tell me how proud she is to be a Republican. (Isn't pride one of the seven deadly sins?)
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:16 AM
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15. You Liberals, blah, blah, blah, is all they've got left at this point.
Over on the Huffington Blog their is a post from Danielle whatshername
the Conservative made up entirely of sneering at Liberals complaints
about Bush's role in the NO disaster. She offers no arguments, just
contempt. I guess that's all she has left.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:42 AM
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10. Would Kerry have been worse for the people on the Gulf Coast?
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:32 AM
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16. Kerry would've probably taken the situation more seriously.
He wouldn't've put an inexperienced incompetent in charge.
He wouldn't've went for guitar photo ops during the tragedy.
He probably would've had assistance staged nearby, ready to enter the disaster area immediately after the hurricane had moved on (i.e., protocol).

Hell.. he could probably locate New Orleans on a map without any help from his advisor.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:15 AM
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18. My friend knew better than to use the KERRY was WORSE excuse
and he too, after voting for Bush 2x...had to finally admit Bush is an airhead outta touch with reality, manners, emphaty, etc etc

He didn't send any condolences to Iraq I fear....haven't heard a peep bout any. He don't care for us Brownies it seems. His signs are many.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:45 AM
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20. That's great that your mother "turned"... mine hasn't.
I was talking about NO last night to my mom and she was saying that "those people should have evacuated" and I went inot a tirade about poverty which she just couldn't understand.
I mean SHE REALY COULDN'T UNDERSTAND poverty!
I went on about poverty and then as the only way to have a "final say", she said, "well, it's all a sign that the rapture is near."

She said" all we can do is pray"... it was then that I reminded her that it was her duty as a "real" Christian to not only pray but to SPEAK OUT against the injustice that caused these poor souls to be trapped in NO. To that she had nothing to say.

My SO is a REAL piece of work; he doesn't want to hear about it at all. All he was is upset that Fats Domino was missing...
I told him that Fats had been rescued early on.

I am watching all this is muted terror and all the time the anger is mounting inside me....
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:54 AM
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21. My far Right-wing brother-in-law finally saw the truth
Eating dinner at my mom's last night, and my Republican brother-in-law, who is a card-carrying NRA member, NASCAR dad, and about as right wing as you can imagine, finally admitted that in the past 6 months he's regretted voting for the POS. I told him the same evidence that he's a useless, lying, POS has been there since his days as governor of Texas, so why didn't he see the light before. Of course, he had no answer for that. Dumbass! But at least it's one more convert, and if someone as Republican as my brother-in-law is finally opening his eyes to the realization that we've got gutter scum in the White House, maybe it's not too late for America.
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