NOLA: Those who want to help aren't being allowed to!

[nicknameless]

http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=540b370519e0aeb3d1558b121761454e

"This is criminal": Malik Rahim reports from New Orleans

Malik Rahim, a veteran of the Black Panther Party in New Orleans, for decades an organizer of public housing tenants both there and in San Francisco and a recent Green Party candidate for New Orleans City Council, lives in the Algiers neighborhood, the only part of New Orleans that is not flooded. They have no power, but the water is still good and the phones work. Their neighborhood could be sheltering and feeding at least 40,000 refugees, he says, but they are allowed to help no one. What he describes is nothing less than deliberate genocide against Black and poor people. - Ed.

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If you ain't got no money in America, you're on your own. People were told to go to the Superdome, but they have no food, no water there. And before they could get in, people had to stand in line for 4-5 hours in the rain because everybody was being searched one by one at the entrance.

I can understand the chaos that happened after the tsunami, because they had no warning, but here there was plenty of warning. In the three days before the hurricane hit, we knew it was coming and everyone could have been evacuated.

We have Amtrak here that could have carried everybody out of town. There were enough school buses that could have evacuated 20,000 people easily, but they just let them be flooded. My son watched 40 buses go underwater - they just wouldn't move them, afraid they'd be stolen.

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It's the capitalists' way, dontcha know -- valuing property over lives.

[ananda]

1. property over lives..

That just about says it all. I'm coming to realize that Nagin is guilty of this too. I thought well of him at first... but he let the buses sit there, and he was afraid to open the Superdome because he thought the people would damage it and deface it with graffiti. Anybody in their right mind would know that Katrina is no respecter of any building and that a little graffiti would be like putting a bug under a bulldozer.

My big question: why can't these people THINK????

Sue

[nicknameless]

3. I hadn't heard that. But I DO know that he was a repub & switched to run

for Mayor. Sorry to hear that about him. I had thought highly of him too.

[peacetalksforall]

2. Genocide. Massacre. Plot. Yes, it is more than possible.

If Pat Robertson can call for the assassination of a duly elected President of another country.....

If the right wing can commander our entire voting process and steal votes.....

If our government plans or lets happen a massacre of our own people who went to work on the morning of 9-11 ....

If our government can lie about the reason for declaring war and cause untold death and maiming for life ....

Anything is possible. There is NOTHING GOOD that they have thought, plotted, or done that is honorable.

They lie 24 7 in ways no one has ever thought of using lies.

They are killers, liars, thieves, deceivers and destroyers of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. They are utter hypocrites about the Ten Commandments.

Yes, it's possible to kill off some Black-Americans and hopefully get some gay-lesbians along the way. Some have already shown that they want the city of New Orleans off the map.

If anyone thinks that their think tanks don't have plans on the shelf to match natural disasters with their plan for takeover... dream on. If the Army Corp of Engineers can have knowledge and plans on the shelf for what is needed in case of a disaster in various vulnerable cities (as mentioned on C-Span this morning by one of their Lt. Col's, then the right wing think tanks can also have their plans.

[PATRICK]

4. Back to the MIHOP and LIHOP argument

and the difference is only in the type of damnation God alone can mete out. In any case it all amounts to the same thing, a criminal situation ruled by Bush that cannot be tolerated by any civil society.

I love it when we get into impotent debates on HOW evil the sob's are are meanwhile the accountability is untouched, frittered away and escapes unnoticed into the night.

No one's life is worth a devalued plug nickel while these creatures are in power. That is plain and proved over and over again in every way with no decent good done to any citizen or the nation as a whole. The point is not how far they might have gone with malice aforethought and ACTUAL planning(it still is an open question whether in fact they are any good at that anyway without their props and courtiers). The point is the results and the callous spiteful attacks on the nation to keep themselves from being held accountable while they reap more reward- like carrion birds- from the tragedy. The point is they get away with everything and why exactly is that acceptable at all to any true citizen?

[nicknameless]

5. We apparently have to be careful with the LIHOP & MIHOP theories.

Threads are being disappeared for that. :shrug:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4630068

(Edited to add link)

[zann725]

11. As Engineering students know,brainstorming is ESSENTIAL to problem-solving

Guess we don't really want the truth to set us free.

Yet storms CAN be created by cloud seeding, etc. That's not new, nor is it 'tin-foil.' But I won't mention it...any more.

[nicknameless]

14. I know.

Makes me sad.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

10. This couldn't possibly...

...be solely attributable to ineptitude (although Bushco is a grossly inept administration).

[nicknameless]

15. Ineptitude is the failure to perform adequately. Here, they PREVENTED

others from performing the necessary, TRADITIONAL rescue and relief!
The refusal to allow rescue/relief offered buy other countries, other states, other cities, other locals -- or even the Red Cross -- that is not just ineptitude.
The deliberate cutting of emergency communication lines? That is not ineptitude.

Unbelievably sickening.

[nicknameless]

6. We've seen stories about how outside help has been turned away,

but they're apparently not even allowing local residents help those in need.

People from Placquemine Parish were rescued on a ferry and dropped off on a dock near here. All day they were sitting on the dock in the hot sun with no food, no water. Many were in a daze; they've lost everything.

They were all sitting there surrounded by armed guards. We asked the guards could we bring them water and food. My mother and all the other church ladies were cooking for them, and we have plenty of good water.

But the guards said, "No. If you don't have enough water and food for everybody, you can't give anything."

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:grr:

[OneBlueSky]

7. kicked and recommended . . . could we get four more votes, please . . .

this is something that everyone should know about . . .

[nicknameless]

8. Kick

[nicknameless]

9. Better to have buses totaled by the flood than allow them to save people!

"My son watched 40 buses go underwater - they just wouldn't move them, afraid they'd be stolen."
:cry:

[Porcupine]

12. Somebody ordered actions that add up to Genocide.

The imprisonment in the convention center and the Superdome.

The refusal of Amtrack's offer to evacuate residents.

The refusal of the USS Bataan to use boats, food and water tankers when it was offshore of NOLA. The Bataan also has 6 operation rooms and 600 bed medical capacity, REFUSED!! (the death march connection is too weird)

The refusal to allow Red Cross and other agency and volunteer relief convoys into LA.

The conspicious focus of Rove "talking points" pundits on looting.

The co-ordination of Bush's tour with the military convoys. (where were those trucks tuesday, wednsday and thursday?

There are other actions that we will hear about eventually.

Genocide. Active and persistent.

[nicknameless]

13. I agree.

It is too consistent, too monstrous.
What the hell country is this?

[DELUSIONAL]

16. We MUST pressure our Congressional Reps and Senators

to investigate and send them the information collected.

Keep asking -- WHY were people denied water etc. etc. etc. & WHO, did this.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON who cares should start demanding answers.

We have a RIGHT to know.