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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:51 AM
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George W. Bush isn't a monster.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 07:54 AM by Pacifist Patriot
He's but one head of the monster.



The Hydra had the body of a serpent and many heads, one could never be harmed by any weapon, and if any of the other heads were severed two more would grow in its place. The stench from the Hydra's breath was enough to kill man or beast. When it emerged from the swamp it attacked the cattle and local villagers, devouring them with its numerous heads. It terrorized the vicinity for many years.

I think this is an important analogy to consider as we attempt the Herculean task of rescuing our country from the many-headed beast that is the neocon agenda. The stench from their propaganda has proven more than enough to kill man and beast. They are devouring the cattle (economic oppression and environmental pillaging) and the villagers (erosion of civil liberties and psychological oppression). They have been terrorizing the global community for many years. Now perhaps more people will realize they have been terrorizing the vicinity as well.

What will it take to cauterize the wounds as we hack away at the hydra?
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tofubo Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:56 AM
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1. de-ba'athify the u.s.
p.n.a.c & c.n.p. would be a good place to start
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:11 AM
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6. Don't forget about the AEI!
That's American Enterprise Institute for the newbies.


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tofubo Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:45 AM
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16. some more heads ??
members of:
the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the growing family of companies controlled by jpMorganChase, any duPont related entity, the Acton Institute, the Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration, the Family Research Council, Focus on Your Own Fucking Family, the Heritage Foundation, the Independence Institute, the National Center for Policy Analysis, Center for Security Policy, the James Madison Institute, Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, CoMPASS, the Club for Growth, the Progress For America Voter Fund, the Secular Right, the Christian Right, the Hard Right, the Xenophobic Right, anything Paul Weyrich and Jerry Falwell ever touched, the American-Turkish Council

graduates of:
Yale University (especially the Skull & Bones variety), the Paul Nitze School of Advanced International Studies at John Hopkins University, the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University

the military-industrial complex (a.k.a.war profiteers):
Alexander Brown & Sons and its successor companies, Parsons Corp, Schlumberger, Raytheon, General Dynamics, CACI International, Bearing Point, Bechtel, BKSH & Assoc., GE, Lockheed Martin, Loral Satellite, Titan, Qualcomm, the Fremont Group, the Lincoln Group
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:08 AM
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2. I refer to him as a monster
I honestly think he is a monster in every sense of the word, that is not to say he isn't both a monster and the head of a monster. I just want to make clear that he is the one in charge and without taking care of him first, anything else is meaningless. I agree your analogy is right, it is useful to remember that WE are capable of working on many things at once.
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CitrusLib Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:11 AM
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4. Actually, I don't think he is in charge.
I think he is a carefully orchestrated puppet. I believe there are others in charge and he's just the 'face'. Sure, get rid of Bush, but the Roves, Cheneys, Rumsfelds, Perles and Crystals of the neo-con movement will just find another 'electable' face to front their agenda.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:27 AM
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21. Not really in charge
Not so carefully orchestrated either, anymore. Rove & Co succeeded very well in constructing a fake "cowboy" persona that was easier to sell to the people than, well, the lazy coke-snorting misanthropic elitist he realy is. Lately, the facade has been cracking more and more and the lazy coke-snorting misanthropic elitist is becoming visible for all to see.

This is Cheney and Rumsfeld's administration, no doubt about that. Those two were key members of the Continuity of Government programme in the 80s. They represent the military-industrial complex. Dubya only got the job because of his pedigree.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:22 AM
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11. Oh without a doubt. As a person I find him utterly monsterous.
I have been saying for years that I think he is a medicated sociopath.

As a political opponent he is the tip of the iceberg.
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CitrusLib Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:09 AM
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3. The Hydra's been nicked. I smell blood in the water.
I think the Democrats and the MSM sense it too. I've been somewhat surprised by the backbone some reporters are showing. The Democrats need to be willing and able to keep shining the spotlight on the Hydra's deeds and make it relevant to the centrists among us (left or right leaning). They need to start hammering home the message that the Republican party has been hijacked by the extreme right and calling them out on the lies. And I mean loud and often. I guess basically it will take Democratic leadership and a MSM with a spine to overcome this beast.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:11 AM
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5. Especially necessary: the MSM with a spine
They have been AWOL for most of the tenure of this administration. They all need to act like David Gregory and hold this administration's feet to the fire continuously.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:45 AM
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17. Please don't call them the "MSM." There's nothing "mainstream" about...
...their sick agenda of greed and manipulation. Please call them what they are, The Corporate Media.

NGU.


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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:14 AM
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7. I made this comment a few days ago...
Our problem isn't George Bush...he's just a fairly insignificant symptom...getting rid of him isn't going to help much.

Getting rid of all the repugs in Congress...well, yeah...that's even MORE important.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:16 AM
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8. He's a dry drunk
Putting GW under the fire wouldn't do any good, he will just play victim and find someone to blame. Its not his fault that what he does falls apart. He picked the best drinking buddies he had for posts in his admin.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:19 AM
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9. Bernie Ward likes to bring this up from time to time.
He says that all of the issues...anger, resentment, whatever...the stuff covered in the excellent book Bush On The Couch:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0060736704.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

...went untreated. All of the "underlying causes" for Junior's substance abuses were never addressed.

When you look "under the hood" of this man's mind, there is some pretty frightening stuff to be seen.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:24 AM
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13. I'd like to read that book. I've been conducting an...
"armchair analysis" of Bush for years and reached the conclusion he was a sociopath due to his parents' inept "nurturing." Events over the last two weeks have only cemented my opinion. I'm curious if the author holds the same opinion.

Off to see if my library has a copy.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:27 AM
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15. Bush is a classic Oedipal case study, and the book goes into that
It's a very thorough book...not a cheap "Bush-bashing" knock-off. The author really gets down to what makes him tick, and it is frightening.

It's one of the very few "Bush books" that I recommend highly.
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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:19 AM
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10. He's not a monster; he's an idiot
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:23 AM
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12. And a lout, and a sociopath....
as I said to someone else above, as a political opponent he is the tip of the iceberg.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:26 AM
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14. He**'s NOT an idiot, and we advance this idea at our own peril.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:35 AM by ClassWarrior
When people think of him** as an idiot, they let him** off the hook; and when WE think of him** as stupid, we get complancent. Please don't help the Radical RW win the expectations game. And pick up a copy of "The Art of War" by Sun Tsu.

NGU.


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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:49 AM
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18. Why would you want to cauterize wonds when you are trying
to kill it. Your last sentence is goofy.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:13 AM
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19. No, it has to do with the mythology.
Cauterizing wounds prevented new heads from growing. It was the only way Hercules could ultimately kill the hydra.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:01 AM
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22. Thanks for the clarification. The hydra sounds like a German
Shepard a neighbor of mine once owned.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:23 AM
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20. I think you got him at the wrong end.... n/t
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