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jalynn Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:18 AM
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I received this email from a friend:





This came to me from a pretty reputable source, but it is too new to be able to verify on Truthorfiction.com. I suspect it is true, simply because parts of it mirror items in the news but the "mainstream media" does not detail a lot of the background reflected in this article. One thing that is apparent in all the Monday morning quarterbacking is that once the military got there, things began to improve. The military certainly does understand well that "SOMEBODY has to be in charge!", and will make that happen. A lot of evidence seems to indicate that central authority was lacking until uniformed folks got there.



For what it is worth, here it is.



HAVE YOU HEARD ANY OF THIS ON TV OR OTHER MEDIA?


On Friday night, August 26, 2005 before the Hurricane hit, Max Mayfield of the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling Mayor Nagin of New Orleans and Louisiana Governor Blanco personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of New Orleans and they said they'd take it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had recorded 68' waves before it was destroyed.

President Bush spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with his advisors and administrators drafting all of the paperwork required for a state to request federal assistance (and not be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act or having to enact the Insurgency Act).



Just before midnight Friday evening the President called Governor Blanco and pleaded with her to sign the request papers so the federal government and the military could legally begin mobilization and call up. He was told that they didn't think it necessary for the federal government to be involved yet.

After the President's final call to the governor she held meetings with her staff to discuss the political ramifications of bringing federal forces. It was decided that if they allowed federal assistance it would make it look as if they had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would not be invited in.

Saturday, August 27, before the Hurricane hit, the President again called Blanco and Nagin requesting they please sign the papers requesting federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area, and begin mandatory evacuation.

After a personal plea from the President, Mayor Nagin agreed to order an evacuation, but it would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the governor still refused to sign the papers requesting and authorizing federal action. In frustration the President declared the area a national disaster area before the state of Louisiana did so he could legally begin some advanced preparations.


Rumor has it that the President's legal advisers were looking into the ramifications of using the insurgency act to bypass the Constitutional requirement that a state request federal aid before the federal government can move into state with troops - but that had not been done since 1906 and the Constitutionality of it was called into question to use before the disaster.

Throw in that over half the federal aid of the past decade to New Orleans for levee construction, maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a marina and support the gambling ships. Toss in the investigation that will look into why the emergency preparedness plan submitted to the federal government for funding and published on the city's website was never implemented and in fact may have been bogus for the purpose of gaining additional federal funding. As we now learn that the organizations identified in the plan were never contacted or coordinating into any planning, though the document implies that they were.

The suffering people of New Orleans need to be asking some hard questions as do we all, but they better start with why Governor Blanco refused to even sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday, August 31, which further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard from adjoining states. Or maybe ask why Mayor Nagin keeps harping that the President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound busses to help him when according to his own emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over 500 busses at his disposal to use between the local school busses and the city transportation busses - but he never raised a finger to prepare them or activate them.

This is a sad time for all of us to see that a major city has all but been destroyed and thousands of people have died with hundreds of thousands more suffering, but it's certainly not a time for people to be pointing fingers and trying to find a bigger dog to blame for local corruption and incompetence. Pray to God for the survivors that they can start their lives anew as fast as possible and we learn from all the mistakes to avoid them in the future.

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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:19 AM
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1. www.snopes.com has already debunked. eom
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:38 AM
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12. Here's the link to Snopes
http://www.snopes.com/politics/katrina/nagin.asp

* According to the St. Petersberg Times, Max Mayfield of the National Hurricane Center contacted government officials in Louisiana and Mississippi on Saturday night (27 August), not Friday night.

* According to the New Orleans Time-Picayune, President Bush's first communication with Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco occurred on Sunday morning (August 28), just before a 9:30 AM press conference called by Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin to announce the latter's mandatory evacuation order for New Orleans.

* On Friday (26 August), Governor Blanco did indeed declare a state of emergency for the state of Louisiana in advance of Katrina's making landfall in the Gulf Coast.

* On Saturday (27 August), Governor Blanco asked President Bush to declare a state of emergency at the federal level for the state of Louisiana.

* The White House responded to Governor Blanco's request that same day (Saturday) by declaring the emergency and authorizing FEMA "to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency."

Last updated: 8 September 2005
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:20 AM
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2. Bullshit! Send them this link:
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jalynn Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:23 AM
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7. Thanks
I am sending them the link you posted. Very informative
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:22 AM
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3. just a bunch
of right wing lies. dont believe them for a moment.
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:22 AM
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4. HAVE YOU HEARD ANY OF THIS ON TV OR OTHER MEDIA?
Why? Because it isn't true.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:22 AM
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5. I'm sure you set them straight.
We've certainly been getting many copies of these ass-covering lies.

Nobody is fooled by them.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:22 AM
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6. Welcome to DU.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 10:26 AM by bear425
edit:
Friday, August 26
GOV. KATHLEEN BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA:

GULF COAST STATES REQUEST TROOP ASSISTANCE FROM PENTAGON: At a 9/1 press conference, Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, commander, Joint Task Force Katrina, said that the Gulf States began the process of requesting additional forces on Friday, 8/26.

http://www.thinkprogress.org/katrina-timeline
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:27 AM
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8. Reply to all with this link
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:27 AM
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9. Try this link
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:32 AM
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10. Poor W! All this pleading and begging while on vacation!
No wonder his strumming was so weird on that pic.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:33 AM
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11. All you need to know to debunk that (and any others)
It describes Bush as being pro-active, concerned, and busy.

HAHAHAHAHA, now if that doesn't clue you in....!
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