Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why didn't HS/FEMA evacuate the hospitals?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:09 PM
Original message
Why didn't HS/FEMA evacuate the hospitals?
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:09 PM by DoYouEverWonder
and the nursing homes?

The mayor did a good job of evacuting everyone else. 80% of the people were evacuated and that is an unprecidented amount for any major city. However, when it comes to evacuating the critically ill, there is no way that any mayor would have the resources to even attempt to evacute these people. Resources from the Federal Government and hospitals throughout the region if not the whole country would have to be mobilized. This is clearly a situation that would be beyond the capability of local or even state government.

Gov. Blanco requested Federal Asssistance at least two days before the storm hit. On Sunday Bush announced a State of Emergency for the region. Yet it appears that the Feds made no attempt to send in people or equipment to help with the evacuation. Why not? What went wrong? Did they even bother to plan for that aspect of an emergency?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:17 PM
Response to Original message
1. Excellent point! Thank you. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:20 PM
Response to Original message
2. Charity hospital, who serves the poorest of the poor
was the last one evacuated. If their dedicated doctors had not gone to the media, they may have never been evacuated. The hospital was placing dead bodies in stairwells between floors.

They had no food, water, or medicine.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. That is the 2nd part of this issue
Even after the storm, HS/FEMA did little to get the sick and dieing out of the hospitals, despite the worst possible situations imaginable. Not only couldn't they get food and water to people sheltered in the city, they couldn't even drop supplies to the hospitals, no less bother to try to help people get out it seemed.

This is one area that we may be able to hold HS/FEMA accountable where they can't try to blame everyone else for their failures.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:22 PM
Response to Original message
3. Too busy evacuating the Arabian horses first.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:30 PM
Response to Original message
5. At the very least this is negligent homicide...
on the part of the fed. government.Personally I think it's genocide.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. That is the case we need to build
and I think their response to the hospitals is a real weak spot for them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
7. These people shold have left in yellow buses
when pigs fly.

Up my a$$.

The crisis is not that an entire city didn't evacuate. They didn't, hadn't and never will.

There are twice as many dead out of Mississippi than Louisiana- so something went right in NOLA.

The real crisis was the failure of the Federal Government under FEMA to send communications equipment that would allow co-oridnated law enforcement to provide security, and then evacuating hospitals and nursing homes first WHILE providing security, water, food , medicine and sanitation (porta-potties nincompoops ) to the citizens in the Superdome and the Convention Center.

I just saw a picture in Newsweek of a young woman who collapsed in the Superdome and died shortly after the picture was taken. Young, very young, a beautiful young, black American woman–and I am angry all over again.

.....................

Remember the Superdome

Real man don’t eat cake when cities are drowning.

Heck of job turdie, heck of a job.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. That's why I think we should look at the hospital situation
The mayor did everything humanly possible, especially considering that the Feds totally failed him in every way. The hospitals are a glaring example of the FEDS failure to respond appropriately.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Yes, Charity Hospital only received help because they begged
the media to broadcast their needs.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. Bump for Charity Hospital
These guys/gals stayed against all odds. Their hospital took care of the poorest of the poor. They would have gotten no help without their media solicitations. Even so, they lost many patients.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. You bet, helicopters come from military
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 12:48 AM by bluedawg12
and not city Mayors. The failure to rescue patients is at the top of the humantirian crisis that the world witnessed.

Nagin struggled in a city spinning into anarchy and begged for help.
SOS does not mean: Sit On the Sidelines.

Brownie still doesn't get it???

I am listening to a doctor who is broken hearted about not being able to help people at the Convention Center- he will carry that memory and the failure of the government for the rest of his life.

G*ddamnit life is cheap in this .....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 02:55 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. That's what I'm getting at here
I've also noticed that the MD's and EMT folks are very upset by this whole thing. That is good, they can be very formidable when they are angry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:51 AM
Response to Original message
12. Private Enterprise Has Freedom To Choose
I have no problem spending the money to evacuate people from anywhere, but many of these facilities were private. For example, all of these are Tenet Health Systems facilities.

Gulf Coast Medical Center
Kenner Regional Medical Center
Lindy Boggs Medical Center
Meadowcrest Hospital
Memorial Medical Center
NorthShore Regional Medical Center

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 11:28 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC