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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:50 PM
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I want an answser to this!!!!!
The Katrina Time line that has been posted does not address this and I would really like an answer!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050831-4.html



Governor Blanco requested aid on 28th and specified the Parishes that were expected to receive the most damage - the Southern ones. Bush authorized the northern counties on August 26 and the southern ones on August 29 when he declared an emergency for the entire state. Why did he declare an emergency in the northern parishes before the southern? He declared an emergency for the southern ones only after Governor Blanco requested it. He definitely gave aid to the northern parishes before the southern ones when he declared an emergency for the entire state. And I don’t know what prompted him to declare the aid for the northern ones without a request from the Governor.





Request sent buy Governor Blanco on August 28th. She lists the parishes that are most likely to be affected and they are all Southern one, none of the ones Bush approved on the 26th. (If someone can click on the link and copy the Parishes listed I would appreciate it - for some reason it won't copy on my computer right now)


http://www.gov.state.la.us/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf



Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana

The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina beginning on August 26, 2005, and continuing.

The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives, protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana, and Winn.



http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050827-1.html



For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
September 7, 2005

Statement on Federal Assistance for Illinois

The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Illinois and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts to assist evacuees from the area struck by Hurricane Katrina and to provide emergency assistance to those areas beginning on August 29, 2005, and continuing.

The President's action makes Federal funding available to the State and all 102 counties of the State of Illinois.

Specifically, assistance is available to State and eligible local governments for emergency protective measures that are undertaken to save lives and protect public health and safety. Emergency protective measures, including direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 100 percent Federal funding.

Representing FEMA, Michael D. Brown, Under Secretary for Emergency Preparedness and Response, Department of Homeland Security, named Janet M. Odeshoo as the Federal Coordinating Officer for Federal recovery operations in the affected area.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: FEMA (202) 646-4600.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:56 PM
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1. Illinois? The last declaration says Illinois, not louisiana!?!?
From your post above:

Statement on Federal Assistance for Illinois

The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Illinois and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts to assist evacuees from the area struck by Hurricane Katrina and to provide emergency assistance to those areas beginning on August 29, 2005, and continuing.

The President's action makes Federal funding available to the State and all 102 counties of the State of Illinois.

Specifically, assistance is available to State and eligible local governments for emergency protective measures that are undertaken to save lives and protect public health and safety. Emergency protective measures, including direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 100 percent Federal funding.

Representing FEMA, Michael D. Brown, Under Secretary for Emergency Preparedness and Response, Department of Homeland Security, named Janet M. Odeshoo as the Federal Coordinating Officer for Federal recovery operations in the affected area.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: FEMA (202) 646-4600.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:06 PM
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2. it's gone now
nt
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:33 AM
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3. good catch, this is stinky fish stuff!
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:39 AM
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4. Here is a timeline
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 12:41 AM by bluedawg12
This link has detailed timeline:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
............
( Ignore the lines through bottom those are not crossed out it's a glitch)
Friday, August 26
∙ GOV. KATHLEEN BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA:

∙ GULF COAST STATES REQUEST TROOP ASSISTANCE FROM PENTAGON: At a 9/1 press conference, Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, commander, Joint Task Force Katrina, said that the Gulf States began the process of requesting additional forces on Friday, 8/26.

Saturday, August 27
∙ 5AM — KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE
∙ GOV. BLANCO ASKS BUSH TO DECLARE FEDERAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA:
∙ FEDERAL EMERGENCY DECLARED, DHS AND FEMA GIVEN FULL AUTHORITY TO RESPOND TO KATRINA:]

Sunday, August 28
∙ 2AM – KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE
∙ 7AM – KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE
∙ MORNING — LOUISIANA NEWSPAPER SIGNALS LEVEES MAY GIVE:
∙ 9:30 AM — MAYOR NAGIN ISSUES FIRST EVER MANDATORY EVACUATION OF NEW ORLEANS:
∙ 4PM – NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ISSUES SPECIAL HURRICANE WARNING: In the event of a category 4 or 5 hit, “Most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks, perhaps longer. … At least one-half of well-constructed homes will have roof and wall failure. All gabled roofs will fail, leaving those homes severely damaged or destroyed. … Power outages will last for weeks. … Water shortages will make human suffering incredible by modern standards.”

∙ AFTERNOON — BUSH, BROWN, CHERTOFF WARNED OF LEVEE FAILURE BY NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER DIRECTOR:

∙ LATE PM – REPORTS OF WATER TOPPLING OVER LEVEE:

∙ APPROXIMATELY 30,000 EVACUEES GATHER AT SUPERDOME WITH ROUGHLY 36 HOURS WORTH OF FOOD

Monday, August 29
∙ 7AM – KATRINA MAKES LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE

∙ 8AM – MAYOR NAGIN REPORTS THAT WATER IS FLOWING OVER LEVEE: “I’ve gotten reports this morning that there is already water coming over some of the levee systems. In the lower ninth ward, we’ve had one of our pumping stations to stop operating, so we will have significant flooding, it is just a matter of how much.”

∙ MORNING — BUSH CALLS SECRETARY CHERTOFF TO DISCUSS IMMIGRATION: “I spoke to Mike Chertoff today —. I said, are you working with the governor? He said, you bet we are.”

∙ MORNING – BUSH SHARES BIRTHDAY CAKE PHOTO-OP WITH SEN. JOHN MCCAIN

∙ 11AM — BUSH VISITS ARIZONA RESORT TO PROMOTE MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT:

∙ LATE MORNING – LEVEE BREACHED:

∙ 11:30AM — MICHAEL BROWN FINALLY REQUESTS THAT DHS DISPATCH 1,000 EMPLOYEES TO REGION, GIVES THEM TWO DAYS TO ARRIVE: “Brown’s memo to Chertoff described Katrina as ‘this near catastrophic event’ ‘Thank you for your consideration in helping us to meet our responsibilities.’”

∙ 2PM — BUSH TRAVELS TO CALIFORNIA SENIOR CENTER TO DISCUSS MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT:

∙ 9PM — RUMSFELD ATTENDS SAN DIEGO PADRES BASEBALL GAME:

Tuesday, August 30
∙ 9AM – BUSH SPEAKS ON IRAQ AT NAVAL BASE CORONADO

∙ MIDDAY – CHERTOFF FINALLY BECOMES AWARE THAT LEVEE HAS FAILED: “
∙ PENTAGON CLAIMS THERE ARE ENOUGH NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS IN REGION:
∙ MASS LOOTING REPORTED, SECURITY SHORTAGE CITED:
∙ U.S.S. BATAAN SITS OFF SHORE, VIRTUALLY UNUSED:
∙ 3PM – PRESIDENT BUSH PLAYS GUITAR WITH COUNTRY SINGER MARK WILLIS
∙ BUSH RETURNS TO CRAWFORD FOR FINAL NIGHT OF VACATION

Wednesday, August 31
∙ TENS OF THOUSANDS TRAPPED IN SUPERDOME; CONDITIONS DETERIORATE:
∙ PRESIDENT BUSH FINALLY ORGANIZES TASK FORCE TO COORDINATE FEDERAL RESPONSE: Bush says on Tuesday he will “fly to Washington to begin work…with a task force that will coordinate the work of 14 federal agencies involved in the relief effort.”
∙ JEFFERSON PARISH EMERGENCY DIRECTOR SAYS FOOD AND WATER SUPPLY GONE:
∙ 80,000 BELIEVED STRANDED IN NEW ORLEANS:
∙ 3,000 STRANDED AT CONVENTION CENTER WITHOUT FOOD OR WATER:

∙ 5PM — BUSH GIVES FIRST MAJOR ADDRESS ON KATRINA:

∙ 8:00PM – CONDOLEEZZA RICE TAKES IN A BROADWAY SHOW:

∙ 9PM — FEMA DIRECTOR BROWN CLAIMS SURPRISE OVER SIZE OF STORM: “I must say, this storm is much much bigger than anyone expected.”
Thursday, September 1
∙ 8AM — BUSH CLAIMS NO ONE EXPECTED LEVEES TO BREAK: “I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.”

CONDOLEEZZA RICE VISITS U.S. OPEN:
STILL NO COMMAND AND CONTROL ESTABLISHED: Terry Ebbert, New Orleans Homeland Security Director: “This is a national emergency. This is a national disgrace. FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control.
2PM — MAYOR NAGIN ISSUES “DESPERATE SOS” TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT:
2PM — MICHAEL BROWN CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE HEARD OF REPORTS OF VIOLENCE:
NEW ORLEANS “DESCEND INTO ANARCHY”:
CONDOLEEZZA RICE GOES SHOE SHOPPING:
MICHAEL BROWN FINALLY LEARNS OF EVACUEES IN CONVENTION CENTER:

Friday, September 2

∙ ROVE-LED CAMPAIGN TO BLAME LOCAL OFFICIALS BEGINS: “Under the command of President Bush’s two senior political advisers, the White House rolled out a plan…to contain the political damage from the administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina.” President Bush’s comments from the Rose Garden Friday morning formed “the start of this campaign.”
∙ 9:35AM — BUSH PRAISES MICHAEL BROWN:
∙ 10 AM — PRESIDENT BUSH STAGES PHOTO-OP “BRIEFING”:
∙ BUSH VISIT GROUNDS FOOD AID: “Three tons of food ready for delivery by air to refugees in St. Bernard Parish and on Algiers Point sat on the Crescent City Connection bridge Friday afternoon as air traffic was halted because of President Bush’s visit to New Orleans, officials said.”

∙ LEVEE REPAIR WORK ORCHESTRATED FOR PRESIDENT’S VISIT:
∙ BUSH USES 50 FIREFIGHTERS AS PROPS IN DISASTER AREA PHOTO-OP:
∙ 3PM — BUSH “SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSE”: “I am satisfied with the response. I am not satisfied with all the results.”

Saturday, September 3

SENIOR BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL LIES TO WASHINGTON POST, CLAIMS GOV. BLANCO NEVER DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY: The Post reported in their Sunday edition “As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said.” They were forced to issue a correction hours later.

9AM — BUSH BLAMES STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS: “he magnitude of responding to a crisis over a disaster area that is larger than the size of Great Britain has created tremendous problems that have strained state and local capabilities. The result is that many of our citizens simply are not getting the help they need.”





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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 01:26 AM
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5. Being from Bossier in NW La...
I cant explain this at all.
The only help they need is for the evacuees that are there, they had barely even any weather from the storm.

BushCo killed my fave city and the economic hub for my state. I never thought I could hate him more until two weeks ago.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:31 AM
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6. I would suspect how they voted may have something to do with it..
Everything about this Cabal is political. Everything......
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