Bush's Waterloo

[RONSTOO]

I think Bush's Waterloo is going to come next spring after the effects of the Iranian Oil Bourse operating in euros starts to have a negative effect on the US economy and Bush will be powerless to stop it. It may come sooner if there is a natural gas shortage come winter and too many Americans freeze or the price is so high that many will not be able to afford it.

[pushycat]

1. More Americans will perish

High home heating fuel costs and less money to help low income for assistance will push many over the wall. Don't know how people will cope with projected 30-71% increases in heating fuel. More suffering because of a low-income profile. It's the Bush Plan for America

[Gyre]

2. Why do you hate America?

:sarcasm:

Gyre

[trof]

3. Wait till folks see their natural gas bills this winter.

Lots of folks gonna come to Jesus, so to speak.

[Politically_Wrong]

4. haha....

pretty soon there gonna be calling it "napoleons katrina" instead of waterloo.

[trof]

6. Gas bill comment on another thread: More than DOUBLED.

Although most people aren't heating yet, many are on a budgeting program where they pay the same monthly amount year 'round.

September is usually the "adjustment month" for the coming heating season.

A DUer's monthly payment more than doubled.
It's gonna be ugly.

[bluedeminredstate]

8. We heat with gas

and LAST winter was outrageous!!! Over $500 some months! To think we changed over to gas to save money...

:scared:

[trof]

10. My daughter lives in Boston.

Gas heating, cooking, water heating.
Everything but lights.
It will be painful.

[OneTwentyoNine]

11. Natural gas?,I thought all the east coast used heating oil....

Doesn't matter I guess,they've announced big ass increases in our NG just for the hell of it I guess. It kills them to see Exxon/Mobile raking in $120 BILLION in profits,they want to gouge as many people as possible also.

[trof]

12. We used heating oil in NH.

In and around Boston, it's gas.
Heating oil won't be much better, if any.

[bluedeminredstate]

13. I live in Virginia

and almost no one uses oil. I grew up in NH where that was the norm, but further south the crappy heat pump is what is most used. We replaced our's with gas furnaces up and down plus a gas water heater b/c heat pumps don't feel very warm and our electric bills were huge. The first couple years were great, but we're getting hammered now. We're replacing the single pane, uninsulated windows this fall and hopefully that will offset the increase in gas prices reflected in the bill I dread opening every month.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

5. It's coming now

people are complaining about high gas prices, they're worried about the FEMA response to Katrina (we have a lot of evacuees up here in AR, and there's concern as to who will be paying for their shelter, etc), and they are outright disgusted with the way their friends and relatives in the military have been treated by Bushco. It's just building up and up and up.

[trof]

7. MS guard troops can't come home from Iraq.

Would leave the remaining troops spread too thin.
They're pissed.
Many have lost everything and want to be with their families, help with the relief effort.

Who can blame them?

[Libby2]

9. I'm afraid the good citizens of the USA are in

for a long hard winter.
Present company included.

[msongs]

14. sorry, the democrats do not have a Wellington nt

[RONSTOO]

15. the fallout

If the gasoline shortage doesn't bring down the North American economy this fall, the natural gas shortage will bring it down this winter, since the economy is driven by consumer spending, especially in the US, and high fuel prices have to cut consumer spending.

[RONSTOO]

16. a good reason

There is a very good reason a lot of people want to replace the dollar with the euro. The Iranian Bourse is going to sell oil for euros and not dollars. Since the euro's inception its main purpose is to either replace in whole or in part the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Those nations that have been waiting for the euro are the one that want and will support the Iranian Bourse, for the sole purpose of freeing themselves from the dollar. And those powers will make it work.

The Iraq war was designed to destabilise the euro but instead destabilised the dollar. The Iranian Bourse will accelerate what has already began.... and end to US economic domination of the world.

[cliss]

17. Yes, you could be right Ronstoo.

I have this funny feeling that I'm watching the U.S. sink before my very eyes. A whole continent, sinking. It's frightening to watch.

I feel so bad for a lot of people in the colder zones. Many people will freeze to death because they can't pay their heating bills. Also, gas prices are going to skyrocket and people will not have enough money to drive. I just see a disaster this winter.

It's also interesting that the VERY thing the U.S. was trying to avert in Iraq; they themselves brought it about.

They blasted their way in and occupied a country. Saddam was trading in Euros and that's when they moved in.

That's also why they are escalating the saber-rattling toward Iran. They can thank themselves for the 'flight from the dollar'.