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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:26 AM
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Mercenaries on American Soil: Blackwater in New Orleans!
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 11:28 AM by Totally Committed
Blackwater Mercenaries Deploy in New Orleans
By Jeremy Scahill and Daniela Crespo
t r u t h o u t | Report
Saturday 10 September 2005

New Orleans - Heavily armed paramilitary mercenaries from the Blackwater private security firm, infamous for their work in Iraq, are openly patrolling the streets of New Orleans. Some of the mercenaries say they have been "deputized" by the Louisiana governor; indeed some are wearing gold Louisiana state law enforcement badges on their chests and Blackwater photo identification cards on their arms. They say they are on contract with the Department of Homeland Security and have been given the authority to use lethal force. Several mercenaries we spoke with said they had served in Iraq on the personal security details of the former head of the US occupation, L. Paul Bremer and the former US ambassador to Iraq, John Negroponte.

"This is a totally new thing to have guys like us working CONUS (Continental United States)," a heavily armed Blackwater mercenary told us as we stood on Bourbon Street in the French Quarter. "We're much better equipped to deal with the situation in Iraq."

Blackwater mercenaries are some of the most feared professional killers in the world and they are accustomed to operating without worry of legal consequences. Their presence on the streets of New Orleans should be a cause for serious concern for the remaining residents of the city and raises alarming questions about why the government would allow men trained to kill with impunity in places like Iraq and Afghanistan to operate here. Some of the men now patrolling the streets of New Orleans returned from Iraq as recently as 2 weeks ago.

What is most disturbing is the claim of several Blackwater mercenaries we spoke with that they are here under contract from the federal and Louisiana state governments.

Blackwater is one of the leading private "security" firms servicing the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. It has several US government contracts and has provided security for many senior US diplomats, foreign dignitaries and corporations. The company rose to international prominence after 4 of its men were killed in Fallujah and two of their charred bodies were hung from a bridge in March 2004. Those killings sparked the massive US retaliation against the civilian population of Fallujah that resulted in scores of deaths and tens of thousands of refugees.

As the threat of forced evictions now looms in New Orleans and the city confiscates even legally registered weapons from civilians, the private mercenaries of Blackwater patrol the streets openly wielding M-16s and other assault weapons. This despite Police Commissioner Eddie Compass' claim that "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons."

Officially, Blackwater says its forces are in New Orleans to "join the Hurricane Relief Effort." A statement on the company's website, dated September 1, advertises airlift services, security services and crowd control. The company, according to news reports, has since begun taking private contracts to guard hotels, businesses and other properties. But what has not been publicly acknowledged is the claim, made to us by 2 Blackwater mercenaries, that they are actually engaged in general law enforcement activities including "securing neighborhoods" and "confronting criminals."

That raises a key question: under what authority are Blackwater's men operating? A spokesperson for the Homeland Security Department, Russ Knocke, told the Washington Post he knows of no federal plans to hire Blackwater or other private security. "We believe we've got the right mix of personnel in law enforcement for the federal government to meet the demands of public safety." he said.

But in an hour-long conversation with several Blackwater mercenaries, we heard a different story. The men we spoke with said they are indeed on contract with the Department of Homeland Security and the Louisiana governor's office and that some of them are sleeping in camps organized by Homeland Security in New Orleans and Baton Rouge. One of them wore a gold Louisiana state law enforcement badge and said he had been "deputized" by the governor. They told us they not only had authority to make arrests but also to use lethal force. We encountered the Blackwater forces as we walked through the streets of the largely deserted French Quarter. We were talking with 2 New York Police officers when an unmarked car without license plates sped up next to us and stopped. Inside were 3 men, dressed in khaki uniforms, flak jackets and wielding automatic weapons. "Y'all know where the Blackwater guys are?" they asked. One of the police officers responded, "There are a bunch of them around here," and pointed down the road.

"Blackwater?" we asked. "The guys who are in Iraq?"

"Yeah," said the officer. "They're all over the place."

A short while later, as we continued down Bourbon Street, we ran into the men from the car. They wore Blackwater ID badges on their arms.

"When they told me New Orleans, I said, 'What country is that in?,'" said one of the Blackwater men. He was wearing his company ID around his neck in a carrying case with the phrase "Operation Iraqi Freedom" printed on it. After bragging about how he drives around Iraq in a "State Department issued level 5, explosion proof BMW," he said he was "just trying to get back to Kirkuk (in the north of Iraq) where the real action is." Later we overheard him on his cell phone complaining that Blackwater was only paying $350 a day plus per diem. That is much less than the men make serving in more dangerous conditions in Iraq. Two men we spoke with said they plan on returning to Iraq in October. But, as one mercenary said, they've been told they could be in New Orleans for up to 6 months. "This is a trend," he told us. "You're going to see a lot more guys like us in these situations."

If Blackwater's reputation and record in Iraq are any indication of the kind of "services" the company offers, the people of New Orleans have much to fear.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091005A.shtml

For those of you who do not know who or what Blackwater is:

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/

Be afraid, be very afraid... Bush appears to be trying to "privatize" the "military presense" in NO. THESE PEOPLE ARE MERCENARIES! They have guns and they are in a position to shoot American citizens, fercripesake! Tell me Halliburton didn't pressure Bush to allow these yahoos in to protect their equipment...

This just gets worse every day!

TC

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:32 AM
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1. Thanks....
Amy Goodman, Democracy Now did a segment on this. This has got to be the most audacious development to come out of this debacle so far. Does not the fact that Blackwater is deputized and patroling the streets of New Orleans speak volumes on the reality of the condition of the National Guard in the US?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:38 AM
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2. I didn't know Amy was onto this, too.
I'm sorry I missed her show on it.

This is so frightening, and so infuriating. I am so at a loss words about how I felt when I saw it. These men have guns. And they are free to roam this city, and "restore order" as they see fit.

I shudder at the thought. God help us. And, it does speak volumes about "the reality of the condition of the National Guard in the US". Indeed, it does.

TC
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:40 AM
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3. there are some links on this thread...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:46 AM
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4. I'm almost a fraid to go look...
:scared:

But, I will. Thanks.

TC
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:53 AM
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5. What is the mayor saying about this? Why didn't Russert ask him?
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:56 AM
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6. Kinda makes it look like there isn't enough NG personnel, eh?
Dateline Rome, 79 A.D.:

"Private Swiss and German Troops Help with Vesuvius' Aftermath"



Anyone remember what happens next?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:32 PM
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7. Geez.......
Isn't anyone else outraged by this?

This is an absolutely horrendous story with HUGE implications for all of us.

TC
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:36 PM
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8. I hate those *co motherfuckers
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:41 PM
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9. Yes...but figured it was coming. Was here when the first Blackwater
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 12:42 PM by KoKo01
DU threads appeared after Iraq Invasion. When the burned bodies of in Falujah created the bombing and "Blackwater" was mention. Several of us did some Googling and found out what it was.

And, it's based in my State! More :scared:

Media has refused to pay any attention to them or what they make per day. It should be a national scandal that we pay more to these guys than our own soldiers and it's covering up that we never had enough troops in Iraq or even now at Home to fight Bush/Neo-Con's endless wars and the coming natural disasters from Global Warming.

It's so frustrating to see things about the Bushies we here on the "internets" have exposed over and over and over...and NOTHING is ever done about it. Our Dems are fine with the situation. They figure it's the only way we can be in Iraq and so many of them voted to invade why do they care? And, we all know what the Media is all about. Except for a few days with Katrina, I expect they will go back to their old ways of telling Bush and his supporters all the happy news they want to hear.

I think most Americans these days would have no problem with Private Mercenary Armies...except if they knew what these people are REALLY GETING PAID! But, who's to tell them? :shrug:


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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:46 PM
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10. Kick
:kick:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:07 PM
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11. Thanks for the kick!
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 01:08 PM by Totally Committed
;)

This is important!

TC
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:31 AM
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25. If it is ok with you...
I am going to put a lot of this info into a grand letter to the editor in my local paper. Unfortunately, I need to write one every fucking week on a different topic! This clown and thief is going to kill this country and its citizens one way or another by his arrogance or by his incompetence. But hey the rich are richer so WTF!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:38 AM
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26. It's FINE with me...
Go for it!

TC
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:54 PM
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12. Has Homeland Security admitted this?
Has any politician asked Homeland Security?

...They say they are on contract with the Department of Homeland Security...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:22 PM
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14. NYC: Been looking everywhere, and cannot find the info you asked for.
Sorry... Homeland Security has no acknowledgement anywhere. Maybe it's in the guts of someof the articles I skimmed, and I missed, but I did try!

This is just terrible. HIRED GUNMEN in an American city, DEPUTIZED and authorized to shoot American citizens... Ugh.

It is just so disturbing.

TC
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:27 PM
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15. Thank you so much for looking.
I'm on dial up, would never ransack Homeland Security's website looking for information.

So far, it looks like only the word of Blackwater that they have been hired by Homeland Security.

I have written to politicians asking if Homeland Security hired them.

Essentially, I said if Homeland Security hired them, fire them immediately. Use police and National Guard.

If private citizens hired them, disarm them immediately. Weapons are being confiscated from all New Orleanians. They should be immediately confiscated from these mercenaries.

Don't know what kind of a response I'll get, but maybe Rep. Carolyn Maloney will at least try to find out if Homeland Security hired mercenaries.

Thanks again. That was very nice of you. :hi:
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:00 PM
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13. kick and nominated.
This is unreal... just unreal.



:wtf: :banghead: :hide:
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:34 PM
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16. kicked & nominated
:kick:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:47 PM
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17. They are Rummy's monster pets. They are doubtless from the Pentagon
They are there in part ot intimidate and terrify the people - harbingers of martial law. I'm betting they're paid or out of the hurricane aid funds, too.

This MUST BE EXPOSED AND MEDIA-BLASTED!!!

When they say they are taking orders from Blanco, that is almost certainly propaganda to discredit her. BLANCO MUST GIVE A SPECIFIC STATEMENT ABOUT THIS.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:01 PM
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18. So, you think they are from the Pentagon, and
NOT from the Depratment of Homeland Security?

It would be interesting to know if Rummy is trying to cut our troops in favor of a "private" little army of his own, wouldn't it?

Has Blanco even commented on this?

TC
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:16 PM
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19. Rummy is absolutely trying to privatize the US military
This is truly an outrage!! Where is Congress? Is this even legal?? Do Americans with all those flags and 'support the troops' on their SUVs know they are NOT supporting the troops a lot of the time, but mercenaries, in Iraq, many of them from foreign countries with horrendous human rights records?

Laura Flanders was outraged on her show about it also. Who oversees this kind of thing? Are they using part of the money allocated for the victims for this? Because I read that they are there to protect the property of the wealthy!!

Rich welfare queens, sucking again from the public trough and in such a vile way!! If the rich want to protect their property, so do the poor. Let them pay for it themselves. They poor have to take their chances on what the government provides, and they sure aren't getting this kind of protection ~ I can't express the horror I feel over this.

'Feeding on the corpse of the Gulf States' is what someone on AAR is saying right now, Halliburton, Bechtel, Blackwater.

If someone doesn't stop all of this, this will come to a city near all of us soon. This country is finished!!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:21 PM
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20. All I can think of is he's afraid that the military could revolt
against the government in some way?

Or maybe they're are getting ready to try out Martial Law, and are afraid this country's military will not go along?

In this instance, however, don't you think they have been brought in to protect Halliburtons material interests in the city during the rebuilding? Can't let any of those pesky looters walk off with all that expensive machinery!

TC
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:01 PM
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22. DHS is in extremely close communication/association with NorthCom,
the Pentagon's huge North American military entity that has as one of its stated missions to administer martial law in the US if it is declared.

Given the close association of Blackwater with the Pentagon projects in Iraq, and given that their primary "talent" seems to be for killing and bullying terrified populations, this has a very strong whiff of martial law to it. Sometimes civilian mercenaries can be sent in with orders that would be illegal for the military (so far). I believe that's their primary function - missions that are (so far) illegal for the military to do openly and directly. They are NOT helping the situation, so what are they REALLY supposed to be doing? You know it is something that needs to be exposed and stopped, just as in Iraq, where they made themselves so hated.

We need to find out for sure who gives their orders, what the chain of command is, and what their actual mission is supposed to be. They are very expensive, and I'm also betting they are being paid out of hurricane aid money - that needs to be checked out.

I find it very difficult to believe that Gov. Blanco has ordered these terrible military commandos - who apparently answer to no one and can do whatever they like. If they are indeed lying about this, she needs to make a statement.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 05:59 PM
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21. I was just watching Democracy Now
and they were discussing this very topic today.

Kick and recommended.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:09 PM
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23. I read a thread earlier today that followed the money
on Blackwater... all the way to Scamway / DeVos family.

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=19039

Read this article to get even more of a clue what Bu$hCo wants to do to our fair country. Fear and Loathing in Jesusland!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:14 PM
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29. The thread said this group was paying Blackwater? Got a link?
I hadn't heard the sorry story of Amway before. What a cheat, and of course part of the GOP machine.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:12 PM
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30. here ya go...
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:52 PM
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34. Thank you! Will add to my file and study. n/t
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 06:16 AM
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24. Shameless self-kick, just once....
for the morning crowd.

This is something everyone needs to know about. Please forgive my faux-pas!

:kick:

TC
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:10 PM
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28. This IS something everyone should know about. Mercenary killers
in New Orleans - you KNOW this is bad, bad, bad and we have to get to the bottom of it.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:19 PM
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27. Mercenaries are hired killers. Now, who do they want to kill?
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:16 PM
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31. I was speaking with someone earlier about this..........
telling them about Blackwater being in New Orleans.

He had an interesting, not as it pertains to New Orleans, but as it pertains to Iraq and other foreign countries and our military presence there.

Blackwater isn't bound by the Geneva Convention. Rummy can claim ignorance about their actions since they are a private company.

Now, their presence in New Orleans is a frightening development. Katrina is revealing their intention to privatize EVERYTHING.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 09:57 PM
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33. The first step toward a Military State here throughout U.S.
Hurricane crisis, just a convenient excuse.

Remember all those "detention camps" across the U.S. which we've discussed earlier...that have gone un-used thus far (as far as we know). That plus all the closed military bases could easily "house" Blackwater prisoners/enemies of the state.

Indeed, it's getting scarier each day.

The name "Blackwater" is kind of an ominous and ironic...particularly in THIS un-'natural' crisis.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 09:45 PM
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32. kick
NoFederales
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 01:35 AM
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35. kicik
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