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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:11 PM
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i need help ..tell me about Charles Krauthammer and his loyalties
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 08:16 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
to the GOP...i am having a discussion on another board about whose to blame for the failures of Katrina and this asshole post this to dispute my post blaming FEMA and Bushco...please help me slam this yahoo? i am so inarticulate and have a hard time.

here's his profile so you can see what he is about http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=14681233&Mytoken=17032EE3-80E9-4484-8DDE8D4B10FE408F8371703

and here's his reply


If you want to politicize it, then follow the list of blame, as follows. You know it's not 100% Bush, just like I know it's not 100% NOT Bush's fault, so stop speaking as if that's where all the blame belongs.

Credit to James for originally posting this article:

Where to Point the Fingers

By Charles Krauthammer

Friday, September 9, 2005; Page A25

In less enlightened times there was no catastrophe independent of human agency. When the plague or some other natural disaster struck, witches were burned, Jews were massacred and all felt better (except the witches and Jews).

A few centuries later, our progressive thinkers have progressed not an inch. No fall of a sparrow on this planet is not attributed to sin and human perfidy. The three current favorites are: (1) global warming, (2) the war in Iraq and (3) tax cuts. Katrina hits and the unholy trinity is immediately invoked to damn sinner-in-chief George W. Bush.

This kind of stupidity merits no attention whatsoever, but I'll give it a paragraph. There is no relationship between global warming and the frequency and intensity of Atlantic hurricanes. Period. The problem with the evacuation of New Orleans is not that National Guardsmen in Iraq could not get to New Orleans but that National Guardsmen in Louisiana did not get to New Orleans. As for the Bush tax cuts, administration budget requests for New Orleans flood control during the five Bush years exceed those of the five preceding Clinton years. The notion that the allegedly missing revenue would have been spent wisely by Congress, targeted precisely to the levees of New Orleans, and that the reconstruction would have been completed in time, is a threefold fallacy. The argument ends when you realize that, as The Post noted, "the levees that failed were already completed projects."

Let's be clear. The author of this calamity was, first and foremost, Nature (or if you prefer, Nature's God). The suffering was augmented, aided and abetted in descending order of culpability by the following:

1. The mayor of New Orleans. He knows the city. He knows the danger. He knows that during Hurricane Georges in 1998, the use of the Superdome was a disaster and fully two-thirds of residents never got out of the city. Nothing was done. He declared a mandatory evacuation only 24 hours before Hurricane Katrina hit. He did not even declare a voluntary evacuation until the day before that, at 5 p.m. At that time, he explained that he needed to study his legal authority to call a mandatory evacuation and was hesitating to do so lest the city be sued by hotels and other businesses.

2. The governor. It's her job to call up the National Guard and get it to where it has to go. Where the Guard was in the first few days is a mystery. Indeed, she issued an authorization for the National Guard to commandeer school buses to evacuate people on Wednesday afternoon -- more than two days after the hurricane hit and after much of the fleet had already drowned in its parking lots.

3. The head of FEMA. Late, slow and in way over his head. On Thursday, Sept. 2, he said on national television that he didn't even know there were people in the convention center, when anybody watching television could see them there, destitute and desperate. Maybe in his vast bureaucracy he can assign three 20-year-olds to watch cable news and give him updates every hour on what in hell is going on.

4. The president. Late, slow, and simply out of tune with the urgency and magnitude of the disaster. The second he heard that the levees had been breached in New Orleans, he should have canceled his schedule and addressed the country on national television to mobilize it both emotionally and physically to assist in the disaster. His flyover on the way to Washington was the worst possible symbolism. And his Friday visit was so tone-deaf and politically disastrous that he had to fly back three days later.

5. Congress. Now as always playing holier-than-thou. Perhaps it might ask itself who created the Department of Homeland Security in the first place. The congressional response to all crises is the same -- rearrange the bureaucratic boxes, but be sure to add one extra layer. The past four years of DHS have been spent principally on bureaucratic reorganization (and real estate) instead of, say, a workable plan for as predictable a disaster as a Gulf Coast hurricane.

6. The American people. They have made it impossible for any politician to make any responsible energy policy over the past 30 years -- but that is a column for another day. Now is not the time for constructive suggestions. Now is the time for blame, recrimination and sheer astonishment. Mayor Ray Nagin has announced that, as bodies are still being found and as a public health catastrophe descends upon the city, he is sending 60 percent of his cops on city funds for a little R&R, mostly to Vegas hotels. Asked if it was appropriate to party in these circumstances, he responded: "New Orleans is a party town. Get over it."


DU please help me cut this freeper down he has threatend to "i will have to take a short drive down to Tannersville find you and ho slap you "ho"....I know your town well and can find you."

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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:14 PM
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1. From what I can tell, he's a rightwing asshole n/t
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Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:16 PM
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2. He's just your basic right-wing asshole columnist
and if it were 70 years before, he'd be wearing a brown uniform with a crooked cross and sporting an itty-bitty square mustache.

Sorry, I can't be any more articulate than that.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:20 PM
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3. no he works for the New York Sate assembly...heck this out...
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 08:21 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
scroll all the way down on his site ...at the bottom.

isn't it illegal for him to threaten to come and do bodily harm to me?

Seth's Companies
New York State Assembly Minority Counsel's Office
Albany, New York US
Law Clerk, Counsel's Office
5/19/05 to present.

New York Senate Majority Counsel's Office
Albany, New York US
Law Clerk
Spring 2005
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:37 PM
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9. Yeah, but is he a right wing asshole columnist who's on the WH payroll?
That's a question we should ask of every so-called journalist in America.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:22 PM
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4. Krauthammer is a scared, scared little man.
He's watching his whole beloved, poisonous ideology crumble to pieces while the whole world watches. Which means, of course, he's got to spew more nonsense than ever before in a desperate effort to keep his illusions intact.

Here's the thing that people like Krusty don't want to admit:

Even if state and local did drop the ball, Bush failed in his duty to pick it up.

When the storm was over and we could all see that people were in real trouble... we needed a leader who would step up and get the job done.

Bush failed. He plainly, simply failed.

We needed a leader. But we had George Bush.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:37 PM
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10. he replied back to what you pointed out about "bush didn't pick up
the ball with:

"So you would disagree with the above article, and the listed order of culpability? What good is a strong leader, when those beneath you are broken links in the chain?"
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:49 PM
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14. I would tell your debate partner that he doesn't know jack-shit...
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 10:08 PM by Zenlitened
... about leadership.

A "leader" who quits when things go wrong is no leader at all.

A leader steps up and finds a way to make up for the broken links.

Rather than whining that the system isn't working the way he wants it to.

Your debater sounds a lot like Bush: A snivelling coward, unfit to command.

So it's not surprising he's more interested in making excuses than assuming responsibility.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:26 PM
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5. Check this link to see the virtual company he keeps, that should tell ya
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:26 PM
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6. Krauthammer is a Neo-con through and through
Go to the Post site and read some columns from the archives, this will give you a good idea of what he's all about.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:28 PM
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7. yep bush* lickin', hard right, neocon scum.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:37 AM
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22. And one of the most evil, vile, dispicable people on earth. n/t
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:35 PM
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8. The definitive neocon.
You look up warmonger in the dictionary, you'll see his picture.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:42 PM
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11. here is a pretty comprehensive list of links on the topic

who was responsible for the slow response in the aftermath of Katrina:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x22805

although I think this one link pretty much sums it up...Homeland Security National Response Plan:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2070176
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:13 PM
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12. thank you all so so much...it shut them the fuck up
:yourock:
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:26 PM
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13. He's a member of PNAC. Need I say more? n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:10 PM
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15. I know he has no lips
seems every right wing snake is the same ... small lips and beady eyes ... look at king george.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:25 PM
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16. chickenhawk squawk
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:52 PM
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17. He's a repuke right wing asshole with repuke blinders on.
Hopeless toady.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:41 AM
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18. "As for the Bush tax cuts, administration budget requests for New...
Strange, I had thought that given the numbers presented in articles such as this: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-050831corps-story,1,2364215.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true, and this: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-levee4sep04,0,3450779.story?coll=la-home-headlines, it showed that Bush had cut it well below the levels that Clinton had allocated. I could have misread the numbers in the articles, and I am not sure of what Clinton's budget was for NOLA, but that is the conclusion I have drawn so far.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:54 AM
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19. "Where the Guard was in the first few days is a mystery"
Not it's not. The Louisiana National Guard was in Iraq thanks to the Big Feds -- BushCo
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:12 AM
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20. Isn't he a signatory of PNAC?
Regardless, he is a right-wing shill.
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:30 AM
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21. I'm a dentist, but I'm not going to tell you that you need a root canal...
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 08:31 AM by drbtg1
...without a proper examination.

Charles Krauthammer, on the other hand, is a psychiatrist and a pundit, who will offer a psychiatric diagnosis on people like Howard Dean without examination. This is completely unethical.

Charles Krauthammer is an embarrassment to the medical profession as well as America
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:42 AM
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23. His bio proves how the neocons are infiltrated in every aspect of politics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer

Worked for both Carter and Mondale. (I believe as a mole).
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