Israeli's Want Bush ???

[welshTerrier2]

the picture below ran as part of an article in Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper ...

[still_one]

1. I disagree with you premise that Israel wants bush

on what basis do you make that assertion, surely NOT one article in an Israelli paper. Incidently, Haaretz has NOT been that complementary toward bush or even the likud party if you have followed articles from it. They report the good with the bad. In fact they do a much better job then the press in this country, but that is NOT saying much

[Dogmudgeon]

2. I think it was a joke Wanted poster

Right about Ha'aretz, though -- more the reason they would run the poster.

--p!

[welshTerrier2]

3. here's a link to the article ...

the reason i posted the picture was to dispel the popular myth among many on "the left" that Israeli's are "pro-bush" ...

the article that contained the "Wanted" poster can be found through this DU link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=156541&mesg_id=156541

[RaleighNCDUer]

4. I wonder why so many, even here, cannot see that the Israeli

government and Likud are no more Israel than our administration and the neocons are America.

We have both suffered RW takeovers.

[welshTerrier2]

9. this was exactly the point of the post ...

my goal was to highlight the anti-bush sentiment in Israel which many here seem unaware of ...

[still_one]

10. sorry, I am a little dense

thanks

[paineinthearse]

5. "the picture below ran as part of an article in Haaretz"

Being a part of an article in no way equates with "Israelis" (is that the Israeli government? A majority of the Israeli people?) wanting him.

[welshTerrier2]

7. read the whole article ...

here's a link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=156541&mesg_id=156541

the point i was making, or trying to make, was that those who think Israeli's strongly support bush are wrong ... the article is very critical of bush ... it included the statement: “George Bush is without doubt the most terrifying president America has ever had.”

[paineinthearse]

11. Sadly, those peace-loving Israelies are not in power

When a sane, peace-loving Israelie or Egyptian leader comes to power, they are assassinated.

[welshTerrier2]

12. Sharon is much weaker now ...

he's really scrambling and talking tough to recover his base ... today (yesterday?) he told them Jerusalem would always remain under Israel's jurisdiction and that he is done ceding territory to the PA ...

and speaking about strange bedfellows, PA leader Abu Mazen publically thanked the Israeli left for helping with "this first step in the liberation of all our lands."

if you're interested, here's an excellent website for Israeli news: http://www.israelnn.com/

[garybeck]

6. please don't generalize, even with tongue in cheek.

do all americans hate Bush? Do all Israelies like their leaders? You can't generalize about anything like this.

Here in the US, there are Jews and Israelis who support Bush and some who don't. The same is true for people who live in Israel.

there is not any single thing that all israelis agree on.

[welshTerrier2]

8. sheesh - to those critical of this post

the point of the post, which seems to have been lost on some, was exactly the point that some who have been critical are making ...

my view is that "the left" has been wrong to believe that Israeli's support bush ... I have no idea what the polls say but Israelis are definitely not monolithic in their views ... the point of the "tongue in cheek" subject line was to attract those who might believe Israelis support bush and have them see this is not the case ... because some seem to not understand my intent, i've added question marks to the subject line ...

perhaps i should have attached the article as well ... i chose to post the article in DU's editorial forum ... now, i'll post it here as well ... please add your comments ...

source: http://www.watchingamerica.com/haaretz000001.html

When the successful son of Barbara the First Lady is a first among unequals, one sometimes succumbs to feelings of panic, and wants to stop the world and get off. George Bush is without doubt the most terrifying president America has ever had. Now one can sit in the submerged streets of New Orleans and cry a river of tears over the fate of a human race that has him as its leader. After five years in office, it is possible to judge the legacy he is passing on - to the everlasting ignominy of the denizens of this world.

What is so frightening about him and his leadership? Although "where there is no vision, the people cast off restraint," when there is a messianic vision composed of faith-based pie-in-the-sky, the earth seems to be jolted off its axis and begins to spin out of control. As we know, Bush is "born again," and wherever people who have found the old-time religion take their stand, intelligent people run away, as if from fire. Instead of running the world and its inhabitants, as one may expect of the leader of the free world, Bush acts as someone who is reinventing the world on a mission from God.

As a first step in fixing the world, the president several years ago refused to sign the Kyoto treaty. If the costs of fixing it are too high, then the world can go to hell. The big avaricious corporations, the main polluters, applauded him. What do Bush and the leviathans care if the ozone layer is disintegrating, the greenhouse effect is intensifying, the oceans are warming up, the desert is expanding not only in Africa and Asia but also in Europe, and the number of hungry is growing by the hundreds of millions? The world can revert to a state of chaos - so long as the messenger does not violate his covenant with Divine Providence and the supervisors down below. It may very well be that the warming of the oceans contributed to Katrina, but who is going to tell a shepherd what is good for his flock while it is drowning in a flood?

While "the fixer" has been on the job, there has been a breakdown of the world order, which is intended to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. The U.N. summit that convened three months ago with the aim of continuing to reduce the nuclear threat was unable - for the first time ever - to reach any conclusions whatsoever; the summit broke up amid feelings of consternation and oblivion. Over 100 participating countries perceived the American hypocrisy - who is allowed to have forbidden weapons, and who is not - and a double-standard policy that is heading toward breakdown. Iran and North Korea were not the only revelers at the gala finale of the failed summit.

The world according to Bush is now more polarized than ever. A new poll that was released last week indicates that a decisive European majority - approximately 72 percent - reject his policies and doesn’t trust him. And how could it trust him, if this coming winter everyone will be paying to heat their homes twice or more what they paid before he took the reins? The global oil market has gone crazy. It goes without saying that the aforementioned homes would be heated only by those who own a home and a car, not those wallowing in life's dunghill under a blackened sky.