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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 04:59 PM
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Delta and NW BOTH file for bankruptcy
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 05:03 PM by OneTwentyoNine
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9317550/

Boy chimp,your economic plans are working great.Lets see...CEO pay remains the same,Union busting starts first thing tomorrow.....
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 05:05 PM
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1. Well that explains why Northwest wasn't giving out peanuts or
pretzels on my flights last Sunday. You could buy trail mix for a buck though-I didn't and it drove them into bankruptcy...now I feel terrible, but I HATE trail mix.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 05:20 PM
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2. The bush economical miracle rolls on.
:bounce:

good chance these were not all *'s fault but ..... I might as well hang this too
on 'em.
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Sooner75 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:18 PM
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3. fuel prices are crucial to airlines
Anytime fuel prices go up the airlines are screwed. They negotiate fuel contracts to try to lock in a favorable price, but the oil companies never let those contracts go very far out into the future. What is a big windfall for the oil companies is a big tailspin for airlines.

Most airlines were also leveraged to the hilt BEFORE 9/11. The reason American is not in bankrupcy is that they were only leveraged 65% or so prior to 9/11. Newer,leaner carriers like Southwest and Jet Blue are also better off. Even so, the airline business is an AWFUL business to be in. High costs. Highly sensitive to rising fuel costs. Lots of expensive gov't regulation.
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cpamomfromtexas Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:09 AM
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8. The AA pilots gave up almost $1 BILLION IN Pay
For most pilots that constituted about $80K a year (at least), although not many management types will admit it.

Management at AA gave up around 8% in pay.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:22 PM
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4. check out this thread ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2090087

Democrats need to show Americans how average citizens got screwed by the bankruptcy bill while big corporations use bankruptcy laws to screw workers ... the best case we have to teach Americans about the government's real priorities is putting the two SIDE BY SIDE ...
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:26 PM
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5. Airlines
I am in the transportation business

So how come the Airlines can file for bankruptcy so easy,
but individuals who are struggling, have a hard time doing
that?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:30 PM
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6. lots of answers but ...
the main answer is because corporations pay attention to what's going on in government and "work the system" around the clock ... most individuals take their government for granted ...

job one for those who see what's going on is to wake-up the American people and educate them ...
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:02 PM
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7. Getting in under the 17 October deadline I see
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 08:03 PM by miss_kitty
just like me :)
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