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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:10 PM
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China: tick, tick, tick ...
it's all just a matter of time now ... US policy "experts" continue to believe in the myth that the US can "manage" the Chinese ... everytime they've "gotten a little uppity", the US has been able to get them to back off ...

use whatever phrase for it you prefer, a "tragic flaw", an "achilles heel" or just simply an addiction, but the US will not be able to fend off the Chinese or anyone else for much longer because we are approaching a convergence of 3 crushing factors ...

first, our government is being run by and for the benefit of Big Oil companies ... and in times of high prices at the pump and desperate competition for oil, it's easy for the oil companies to market themselves as the good guys who are searching all over the world to bring home critical oil supplies for the American people ... take a hint, as we fight their war in Iraq and run up record budget deficits, Big Oil is enjoying record profits ... so that's factor number one ...

second, "peak oil" is not a "yeah, maybe someday it will happen" fear ... some believe we have already encountered peak oil ... others think five years or 10 ... it doesn't really matter ... the US has not done anything to prepare for peak oil and it will not do anything ... as stated above, Big Oil is breaking all sorts of profit records ... their motto is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ... those with the money and the power in the US are putting their selfish interests ahead of the interests of the nation and those who clog the halls of our government are little more than their dutiful puppets ...

and peak oil is being reached at a time that China, a sleeping giant, is emerging as a massive industrial economy with a virtually unlimited appetite for oil ... and to a lesser degree, the same can be said of India ...

and third, years of right-wing control in the US has literally bankrupted the US government ... we have set all kinds of record deficits ... as the US budget deficit, trade deficit and balance of payments deficit skyrocket out of control, other countries, competitor countries, have purchased the US at yard sale prices ... and hostile, oil producing nations like Iran and Venezuela have threatened to discontinue using the dollar as a currency for oil markets ... some have alleged Saddam's threat to do this was the real reason bush invaded Iraq ... the war over "petrodollars" (the currency in which oil is traded) poses a huge risk to the financial stability of the US ...

so, with these 3 factors rapidly converging against us, and a right-wing regime dedicated to further weakening the US government so that it cannot obstruct the greedy urges of Big Oil, we are truly up shit's creek ... and with all this joy, the Chinese have starting expanding their military beyond their own borders ... the Chinese have indeed backed off when requested to do so by the US, but they need only wait for good old Uncle Sam to be safely tucked away in his nursing home before they finally seize control of his estate ...


source: http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=30237

In recent days, dignitaries and senior Chinese politicians have taken turns in emphasising that China's spectacular rise on the world stage should not be regarded as an economic or military threat, but as an enormous opportunity. <skip>

Hostilities boiled over in the summer, when, after months of protests from U.S. politicians, the China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC) had to withdraw its 18.5 billion US dollar bid for Unocal, a U.S. oil major. CNOOC's decision came just two weeks after Haier, a Chinese white goods manufacturer, pulled out of the race to buy U.S. company Maytag.

The two failed acquisitions, however, failed to defuse U.S. concerns that China was attempting to 'buy up America'. Now, the influential U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission has raised the spectre that a 'stampede' of Chinese companies listing shares in the U.S. may destabilise the country's financial markets. <skip>

China sees the new U.S. initiative as conducive to both U.S. and Chinese interests as it would allow for plans to build power plants, without being inhibited by Kyoto's boundaries. <skip>

On worsening trade deficit with the U.S. (last year it reached a record 162 billion dollars), Chinese economists point to Beijing having used the surplus to buy American government bonds. This, in turn, has lessened budget deficits, kept interest rates low and contributed to a housing boom that fuelled much consumer spending in recent years.




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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:13 PM
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1. The GOP Legacy the US is no longer a superpower
they are dangerous to the country
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:50 PM
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3. by design
they never cared about "smaller" government; they only wanted "weaker" government ... the only power in the world, peak oil excluded, who could stand up to Big Oil and constrain the oil industry from harmful practices (ecoterrorism, assassination, alternative energy sources, etc) was the US government ...

the US is no longer a superpower by design ... they have drowned their only competitors in a bathtub ... well, except perhaps for the Chinese ...

one can only wonder what kind of backlash there will be when the American people are finally awakened to the truth ... and make no mistake about it, whether they are told the truth by pro-active Democrats or whether the harsh realities of their government's failures come home to roost, they will be awakened ...

the great sadness is that even with a joyous unification in the fight to regain control of our country, it will in all probability be too late to avoid the consequences of our long, sleeping neglect ...
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:47 PM
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2. bush* is the exxon pResident. he's bought and paid for, as is most
of the rethuglican party. Owned lock, stock and oil barrel by the texas white-boy petroleum mafia.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:11 AM
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4. making the case ...
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 10:12 AM by welshTerrier2
Democrats are just a little too polite making this case ... we use terms like "special interests" to describe legislation that gives billions away to Big Oil ... i prefer terms like "the corporate infestation of our government" ...

Democrats, fearful of being labeled "anti-business", whisper just a little too softly about a windfall profits tax ...

and even these things are usually only done when there is some kind of precipitating event like the recent spike in gas prices ... the problem is though, that Big Oil infestation of our government is an everyday, all-the-time situation ... it's like throwing darts at a nest of bees that's attacking you ...

what is needed is a national discussion about the conduct of these bees ... what is not needed, or at least not particularly useful, is fighting back against any individual bee ... Democrats need to take on the corporate infestation of our government ... if they too are guilty of serving corporate America ahead of the interests of the American people, they need to awaken and do the right thing ... if they lose their seats in the Congress, so be it ...

it's way past time, time we can ill afford, for the party of the people to do the right thing ...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:21 AM
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5. From the 321 Energy:
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 11:22 AM by Totally Committed
China and the Final War for Resources
Bill Ridley
February 9th, 2005

"What's coming will be more devastating to the U.S. economy than any nuclear strike..." - The Asia Times

I. Unrestricted War

Unrestricted War: China’s Master Plan to Destroy America is a treatise for world domination written in 1999 by People’s Liberation Army Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui. In order for China to become a dominant global power over the United States, the PLA emphasizes “The Final War over Resources”, must be won.

The Colonels state that the aggressor nation “must adjust its own financial strategy, use currency revaluation or devaluation as primary weapons, and combine means such as getting the upper hand in public opinion and changing the rules sufficiently to make financial turbulence and economic crisis appear in the targeted country or area, weakening its overall power, including its military strength. Whether it be the intrusions of hackers, a major explosion at the World Trade Center, or a bombing attack by bin Laden, all of these greatly exceed the frequency bandwidths understood by the American military..."

Can you imagine if U.S. military leaders or politicians made such threatening comments? People would be up in arms and demanding resignations and Congressional inquiries!

However, in another case where truth is stranger than fiction – for the most part the U.S. media and government officials are keeping a lid on this volatile story. As you are about to read, the Chinese have already positioned themselves to inflict major damage to the U.S. economy. For those few brave souls in Washington and the media who are talking, their words are ominous.

Writing in the Los Angeles Times, Gal Luft, executive director of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security, said: "Without a comprehensive strategy designed to prevent China from becoming an oil consumer on par with the U.S., a superpower collision is in the cards." The New York Times has also weighed in stating that China’s actions threaten “the very stability of the global economy.”

The final war for the planet’s resources has already started. You name the commodity and China’s buying it and consuming it in HUGE quantities. Last year they consumed nearly half of the world’s cement, twice the world’s consumption of copper, and nearly a third of the world’s coal, 90% of the world’s steel plus nearly every other commodity you can think of has been in greater demand by China.

However in order to propel such furious economic growth, there is one key commodity you need above all the others. And if you can’t get enough of it, having all the other resources won’t matter. The most prized and sought after commodity which makes the world tick is oil. With out it, you have nothing. Your economy would be frozen and your military would be left inept.

As China’s Master Plan to Destroy America manifesto outlines, the multifaceted battle plan recommended by the Chinese military has taken shape..…

Financially: Using Currency as the Primary Weapon

I hate to admit it, but the Chinese have done a masterful job. While America’s media is hypnotizing us with frivolous entertainment such as American Idol or The Amazing Race, they are totally ignoring the perilous economic time bomb the Chinese have placed against us. The Government of China is holding U.S. currency and Treasury notes in a $1.9 trillion Treasury bond trap. When they pull the trigger on their “primary weapon,” the dollar will crash and gold will break $600 in a heart beat and just keep going.

Political and Military Alliances

China has made several deals with OPEC countries whose ideology is very much anti-American. Headlining the list is Iran who President Bush recently singled out as "the world's primary state sponsor of terror pursuing nuclear weapons while depriving its people of the freedom they seek and deserve."

Also alliances have been made with Venezuela who are threatening to cut off oil exports to the U.S. entirely while giving China as much as it wants. These new deals China is making with these and other hostile OPEC countries also involve trading oil in euros not U.S. dollars. The dumping of U.S. dollars for euros would be devastating to an already weakening dollar.

China’s plan is both brilliant and deviously well planned. New alliances with radical groups, arms for oil deals with Iran, a new military build up, major acquisitions of large western resource companies such as Noranda are just a few of the multifaceted maneuvers now taking place.

In my last issue I reviewed the fact the U.S. oil demand is soaring while domestic supplies are dwindling forcing imports to increase to 60%. However many of America’s foreign suppliers are hostile countries whose ideology and hatred have been forged over the decades and now have reached a boiling point in the Mid East.

Before we get into how the final war for resources is building momentum let’s recap the supply and demand scenarios of the U.S. and China.

II. The Growing Demand from a Dwindling Supply

According to the International Energy Agency (IEA), global demand for oil grew last year at its fastest pace since 1980, now averaging 88.1 million barrels a day. Out of that, about 20 million barrels of oil demand comes from the United States.

THAT'S A LOT OF OIL! And remember, once it's burned, it's gone for good!

Over the next twenty years the global demand for oil will increase sharply, hitting 120 million barrels by 2025. Asia is expected to consume 80% of that output – that is if there is that much extra supply capacity. Today production is barely keeping pace with the world’s consumption needs as it is.

What is even more concerning is that peak oil production has already hit all the world’s oil producing nations with the exception of Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

Colin Campbell, one of the world’s leading oil geologists, estimates global production will hit its peak this year. Campbell has stated that the world started using more oil then it found since 1981 and consuming from reserves of past discoveries ever since.


Oil Supply Shortages Likely After 2007, New Report Shows

Global oil suppliers could start to have difficulty meeting growing demand after 2007, according to a study of existing and planned major oil-recovery projects published this month in Petroleum Review.

While a flood of new production is set to hit the market over the next three years, the volumes expected from anticipated new projects thereafter are likely to fall well below requirements, the report says.

"There are not enough large-scale projects in the development pipeline right now to offset declining production in mature areas and meet global demand growth beyond 2007," said Chris Skrebowski, author of the report, editor of Petroleum Review and a recently appointed Board member of the Oil Depletion Analysis Centre (ODAC) in London.


Major Oil Firms Actions Reflect a Peak Oil Market

Credit Suisse First Boston reported that major oil companies are replacing dwindling reserves by acquiring other oil companies instead of exploring for new fields, a strategic shift with implications for global oil supplies, according to a recent report.


“If the actions - rather than the words - of the oil business' major players provide the best gauge of how they see the future, then ponder the following.. Crude oil prices have doubled since 2001, but oil companies have increased their budgets for exploring new oil fields by only a small fraction. Likewise, U.S. refineries are working close to capacity, yet no new refinery has been constructed since 1976. And oil tankers are fully booked, but outdated ships are being decommissioned faster than new ones are being built.”



- Mark Williams, Technology Review, February 2005


The rate of major new oil field discoveries has fallen dramatically in recent years.

There were 13 discoveries of over 500 million barrels in 2000, 6 in 2001 and just 2 in 2002, according to the industry analysts IHS Energy. For 2003, not a single new discovery over 500 million barrels has been reported.


It appears likely that from 2007, the volumes of new production will fall short of the need to replace lost capacity from depleting older fields.


Look at this imbalance: The average American consumes 25 barrels of oil a year. In China, the average is about 1.3 barrels per year; in India, less than one…

The challenge is huge. For China and India to reach just one-quarter of the level of US oil consumption, world output would have to rise by 44 percent. To get to half the US level, world production would need to nearly double. That's impossible. The world's oil reserves are finite. And the view is spreading that global oil output will soon peak.


-- The Christian Science Monitor, January 20, 2005

There’s a historic oil market squeeze coming and it’s clear, not everyone on the planet will have their oil needs met. The San Francisco Chronicle predicts that a “social and economic upheaval across the globe” is coming.

Consumption Statistics

We are living in an age where oil demand is escalating at an unprecedented rate while global production is on the decrease. Today one barrel of oil is found for every 6 consumed. The day of reasonably priced $35 barrel oil has come to an end.

With about 5% of the world’s population, the U.S. consumes about 25% of the world’s total oil supply. It’s hard to believe that just 50 years ago, America was producing half the world’s oil and today we can’t produce even half of our own needs.

From 1970 to date, our demand has increased from 17.7 million barrels of oil per day to nearly 21 million barrels. At the same time domestic oil production is decreasing, having dropped from 10 million barrels per day in 1970 to a projected 5.58 million barrels in 2005.

As a nation, the United States depends on foreign oil for 60% of its needs and that amount will only get bigger over time.

The Department of Energy forecasts consumption demand will be 26 million barrels a day or greater by 2020, imports representing two-thirds of the supply needed.


Rest of the blog at:

http://www.321energy.com/editorials/winston/winston020905.html

TC
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:36 AM
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6. great companion piece to the BP
fantastic find, TC ...

why do i feel like a canary in the mine who's come down with laryngitis ???
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:43 AM
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7. I thought of you when I found this blog...
You made me want to know more about this.

Thanks, I think..... :scared:

Soon, there will be nowhere to hide...

:hide:

TC
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:25 PM
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8. one thing to keep in mind -
China has it's own problems.

The "one child policy" goes back to 1979 - this has created two problems - too many males, (the ratio in China is 118-100, normal rates are 105-100 - multiply that by a couple hundred million), and an aging population without a younger generation to support them when they retire. A lot like our "baby boom" SS problem, only much bigger.

Not disagreeing with the basic premise of the article, but these things need to be added into the equation of China as next world superpower. It's not a given that China will be able to solve these problems without some kind of massive social upheaval.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:17 PM
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9. excellent point ...
China will indeed be suffering from growing pains on a very great scale ... it's culture will undoubtedly become more and more infested with materialism and greed ... the demographics you cited will also stress their ability to care for their citizens during the period of rapid change ... and China's ability to sustain its emerging industrialization in an era of peak oil will be an almost insurmountable challenge ...

so, i agree with your observation that China faces serious challenges if it is to become a superpower ... but each challenge may make China that much more dangerous and that much less internationally compliant ...

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:30 PM
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10. I agree.....
and with their type of government, Managing their own wows will not be as difficult as if they were a democracy....unfortunately for the world (although America is proving to not be much of a democracy either).

But I say that not only will China manage their own affairs relatively easily, I think that they will be managing our affairs as well soon, if we don't get American "Greed" under control.

They Own us....and soon we will see what that truly means.
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