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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:09 PM
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If Roberts is confirmed
What do we do if Bush sends up a Roberts-clone for the O'Connor seat? How do we logically argue that the next "Roberts" isn't qualified if we let this guy in now? Even worse, how do we stop the next "Roberts" if the candidate is a minority or a female?

I guess what I'm getting at is that we need to stop this bastard at all costs, filibuster if necessary, yet I don't see much stomach for a fight from our Senate "leaders".
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category5 Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:14 PM
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1. My guess is the O'Connor replacement will be extreme right winger
I heard Sean Insanity rattle of a list of potential nominees today,
and they all have extreme right wing positions. We shall see.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:16 PM
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2. I agree -- he's set a terrible precedent for non-responses
The next time, they'll feel like the nominee won't even have to be as "forthcoming" (NOT!) as Roberts was, since the confirmation is only for an Associate Justice. I don't see him being defeated, though so the best I can hope for is a vigorous Senate floor debate and plenty of righteous indignation from Byrd, Boxer and others not on Judiciary.
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:56 AM
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3. A vigorous floor debate gets us nothing
Letting this guy get on this Court is a monumental defeat and sets a horrific precedent. He needs to be filibustered. The gang of 14 Dems are killing us on this one.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:22 AM
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4. Dem's are keeping their powder dry...
Look, the Republicans threatened to eliminate judicial filibusters via the "nuclear option". We came to an agreement that they wouldn't eliminate judicial filibusters IF we didn't filibuster every single time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option
"The nuclear option would allow a simple majority (50 out of 100 senators, plus the Vice President) to end a judicial filibuster."

Until we get the Senate and House back (PLEASE GOD!) we have to play POLITICS...
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:38 AM
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7. What good is a filibuster
If we are afraid to use it because the repukes threaten to take it away from us if we do? Why are we afraid of these toothless pricks?
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:19 AM
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10. The "toothless pricks" squashed Hillary's NOLA investigation this week. nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:26 AM
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5. There is NO CHOICE but to
filibuster the next one. If confirmed, the next one will radically alter America into something people today have not lived.
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:36 AM
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6. My point is that filibustering the next one is DRASTICALLY more difficult
If we let this guy slide in now. There is a public opinion component to a filibuster, and WE WILL LOSE that if we let Roberts get away with "looking reasonable" now but say the next Roberts-clone is not.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 10:47 AM
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8. True, but
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 11:16 AM by mmonk
maybe * will further lose popularity and/or indictments are brought. Then it will be politically easier. Anyway, there is no choice.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 10:51 AM
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9. What you mean if, kemosabe?
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