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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:47 PM
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Atta documents destroyed.
WASHINGTON - A Pentagon employee was ordered to destroy documents that identified Mohamed Atta as a terrorist two years before the 2001 attacks, a congressman said Thursday.

The employee is prepared to testify next week before the Senate Judiciary Committee and was expected to identify the person who ordered him to destroy the large volume of documents, said Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa.

Weldon declined to identify the employee, citing confidentiality matters. Weldon described the documents as “2.5 terabytes” — as much as one-fourth of all the printed materials in the Library of Congress, he added.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9342936/

These aren't the droids you're looking for...move along.

Olaf

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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:57 PM
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1. Nobody thinks this is news? N/T
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:02 PM
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2. I keep throwing away my tin-foil hat...
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 03:12 PM by Julius Civitatus
...but these f*ckers keep pulling me back in!!!!

:tinfoilhat:
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:11 PM
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3. I laughed at that, and then realized it really shouldn't be funny. NT
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:12 PM
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5. I know! n/t
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:12 PM
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4. This is important
It should be on the front page.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:13 PM
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6. Yes -- please nominate this thread
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 03:14 PM by Julius Civitatus
Click on the "recommend" button above.
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:12 PM
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11. Done. n/t
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:20 PM
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7. Keeping it kicked. Want people to see this. N/T
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:15 PM
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8. Indeed
This is OUTRAGEOUS!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:29 PM
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9. I don't believe Curt Weldon - he's as nutty as Zell Miller
I've heard various experts debunk this including Roger Cressey on Countdown.

DU'ers maybe this is true, or maybe this is a bunch of hooey. Just be very wary of info coming from Weldon.

From the article:

On Wednesday, former members of the Sept. 11 commission dismissed the “Able Danger” assertions. One commissioner, ex-Sen. Slade Gorton, R-Wash., said, “Bluntly, it just didn’t happen and that’s the conclusion of all 10 of us.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9342936
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:13 PM
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12. I don't believe the Warren Commission, either n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:48 PM
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10. check out the greatest from yesterday.
That's why nobody's responding.
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wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:51 PM
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13. Something is wrong
w/this guy's story. He is essentially saying someone, during Clinton's presidency, ordered the destruction of a HUGE amount of data....and no one noticed. I don't buy it.

However, it this event occurred under the Bush reign, well, I might just think it was true.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:54 PM
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15. Clinton and Clark were not told about about it.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:42 AM
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20. Data mining produces a HUGE amount of data....
I can imagine they wouldn't want people knowing they were doing this sort of thing. Some years ago I read about a Clinton era data mining operation on some tinfoil site....project???? something or other. At the time it seemed a bit too sinister...but who knows. Clinton and Reno were really just repubs-lite in terms of law enforcement.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:56 AM
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22. no the docs came into existence in lat 1999. They were not
destroyed until late september 2001.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:53 PM
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14. 2.5 terabytes???
How is that even possible? doesn't ring true.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:55 PM
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16. able danger is essentially a monsterous database
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:01 PM
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17. Weldon is crazy in my view.
And whatever Able Danger knew about Atta it's irrelevant. Because two other hijackers whom them supposedly also identified, Nawaq Al-Hazmi and Khalid al -Midhar, were already known by some in the CIA and the FBI before 9/11.

Bush's biggest blunder was not to ask questions about potentional al Qaeda operatives inside the US in Aug 2001. He did not ask a fucking question from the FBI Counterterrorism Division. Nada.
Clinton would have. Gore would have. Bush didn't.
And once you have Midhar and Hazmi you have all the other hijackers because of common address and phone information -- for which you don't need any kind of tricky Able Danger or data minding operation just a damn phone book in San Diego. Wow. Rocket science.
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:19 PM
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18. In other words, this was another 'exercise' in data mining? eom
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:33 AM
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19. ORDERED destroyed is not the same as ACTUALLY destroyed.
And, when was the order given ... to destroy the ?two-year-old information? I get the impression that there are careful ommissions in every article about this issue.

And, when, was it done, if it was done?

And, I wonder what the Pentagon official about to be fingered is thinking and most especially doing for these couple of days.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:55 AM
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21. I posted about this yesterday and it did not get much attention.
I heard on one of the cable channels, that the docs were destroyed late summer of 2001.

hmmmm....I wonder who told him to destroy them.

Just so you know summer ended on September 21st, in 2001.
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 10:53 AM
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23. Convenient timing I say eom
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