Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

"Those of Us Who Know" - by RFK Jr.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 06:51 PM
Original message
"Those of Us Who Know" - by RFK Jr.
i'll just say this ... if RFK Jr. ever decided to run for President, the Democratic Party would come back to life ...

this one's really long ... and it's also not long enough for those who just can't get enough of hearing the truth ...


source: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0916-27.htm

Title: Those of Us Who Know That America’s Worth Fighting for Have to Take It Back Now from Those Who Don’t

The White House has used all kinds of ingenious machinations to try to conceal its radical agenda from the American people including Orwellian rhetoric. When they want to destroy the forests, they call it the Healthy Forest Act. When they wanted to destroy the air, they called it the Clear Skies Bill. But most insidiously, they have put polluters in charge of virtually all the agencies that are supposed to protect Americans from pollution. <skip>

There is nothing wrong with having business people in government. It’s a good thing if you’re objective is to recruit competence and expertise but in all of these cases these individuals as I show in my book, have entered government service not to benefit the public interest but rather to subvert the very laws they’re now charged with enforcing in order to enrich the president’s corporate pay masters. They have imposed enormous diminution in quality of life in this country. <skip>

Today as a result of the abolishment of that doctrine (i.e. the Fairness Doctrine), six giant multi-national corporations now control all 14,000 radio stations in our country, almost all 6,000 TV stations and 80 percent of our newspapers, all of our billboards and now most of the Internet information services, so you have six guys who are dictating what Americans have as information and what we see as news. The news departments have become corporate profit centers, they no longer have any obligation to benefit the public interests, their only obligation is to their shareholders and they fulfill that obligation by increasing viewer ship. <skip>

And 80 percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don’t know what’s going on .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:00 PM
Response to Original message
1. Nominating even before reading, because I know it'll be great.
Now I am off to read. :) Thanks for posting!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. i'm off to meet some NO families
i actually made a lasagna ... god help them ...

back in a few hours ...

good call on recommending ... RFK is something there's only one of ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. me too...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:11 PM
Response to Original message
4. Kick!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:13 PM
Response to Original message
5. The man has been trying to sound
the alarm for years now.....

he's nothing more than remarkable.

(actually, I've had a crush on him since I was 14 - back oh MANY years ago!)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. he's smart as hell and dammit - he's hot!
this is a great essay - just great. Recommended and thx for posting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. Hehe
I've actually had a crush on JFK junior but when I started getting into politics and got to know RFK junior some more and started liking him. :loveya: I'm sure he's wayyyy older than me. Haha.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
7. Who says we don't have dems who speak out?
RFK, Jr. does all the time.

:patriot:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:48 PM
Response to Original message
8. Great article!
I just love him too. Him and Teddy are great. I don't know if he'd ever run though. :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:51 PM
Response to Original message
10. I would vote for RFK in a heartbeat. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Me, too!
:hi: Will he ever run?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dcfirefighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. I would work 80h a week for him, for free
Hands down, he's my favorite.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
carpediem Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:00 PM
Response to Original message
12. love this line:
And 80 percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don’t know what’s going on.

would be a great bumper sticker
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:17 PM
Response to Original message
14. I was thinking this very same thought the other evening.
RFK Jr. for Prez!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Coliniere Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:34 PM
Response to Original message
15. RFK Jr. is only one of a few
Democrats who have a regular public forum that I truly admire and wouldn't have to think twice about voting for. Yes indeed, JFK Jr. for POTUS.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #15
24. Might be nice to have a Kennedy back in the White House.
And it would take a REALLY lovely edge off the "dynasty" thing that the bushies are hoping for.

World's biggest entitlement program: The "ownership" the bush family feels it has - on the White House.

I've liked this guy for awhile. Seems as though he'd be a good one to inherit the mantle. And Dear God we need him!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 10:34 PM
Response to Original message
16. I thoroughly enjoyed that and will print it out.
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 10:35 PM by Lifelong Protester
As you can see by my avatar, I have always thought that RFK,Sr. was a great person and oh, my heart broke the night he was assassinated (I was 13, and can still remember the chill that went down my spine as I listened to my little transistor radio).

I think RFK, Jr. has ever the same potential, and I would, as someone here said, work 80 hours a week to get him elected should he run for president ever.

His description of God and nature was truly a wonderful piece of writing, and so sadly lost on the fundamentalists who claim to be so damn holy.

I'd also like to point out, and I am sure on some thread someone has also done this, that Jesus spent his time with the poorest of the poor and the prostitutes, the true outcasts of society. And the Hurricane that brought so much havoc and devastation to the poor and downtrodden of the Gulf? Where, there was the chance for those fundies to show how damn holy they are, how like their personal savior they are.

Hmm, hope there is an entrance exam at the pearly gates, because those folks who ignored the suffering of the poor have FAILED.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:26 PM
Response to Original message
17. big kick for rfk jr - always admired him for his environmentalism
and intellect
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:47 AM
Response to Original message
18. "if RFK, Jr. ever decided to run for President . . .
the Democratic Party would come back to life"

realistically, the nomination is his if he wants it . . . even Hillary would have to step aside if he decided to run . . . and he is the ONLY potential candidate who could bring back a lot of voters who currently fancy themselves "conservative," but who strongly supported his father . . .

from what I've read, RFK Jr. doesn't want to run for anything because he needs to devote his time and energy to his family . . . the other reality that is inescapable is that, as a candidate for president, he would be extremely vulnerable . . . and he can't take the chance that his children could be left fatherless . . .

the only way he might possibly run would be if a massive "Draft Bobby" movement were mounted, probably beginning on the net . . . the only argument that might actually bring this about is that we are ALL his family, and we are NOW leaderless . . .

RFK Jr. knows whats happening to this country, and he's one of the few who is willing to stand up and tell the truth . . . since people like this who are actually electable are EXTREMELLY rare, maybe our time and energy should be devoted to covincing him to run, and run hard . . . every other "viable" candidate is currently in office and, therefore, beholden to one corporation or another (and most to more than one) . . .

and to raising enough money to provide him with 24-hour security -- and, with Paul Wellstone in mind, his own plane and pilot . . .

kicked and STRONGLY recommended . . .

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:40 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. It would be great to see him run,
but I think maybe it's in poor taste to ask him to do it. I think a Draft Bobby movement would be a really bad idea. The guy has lost his father and his uncle (and possibly his cousin) to the forces of evil in this country. I'd say he's given enough although if he really wants it for himself, I'd be 100% behind him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. yeah, you're right . . . has to be his decision . . .
but we could ask . . . politely . . . :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. We certainly could...
Draft Bobby!!!

I, too, would put in one of those unpaid 80-hour work weeks to help get him elected.

It'd be time well spent.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:56 AM
Response to Original message
21. Apparently those who control the news are fed up with Bush by coverage
being allowed out...woudn't you say?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:02 PM
Response to Original message
22. WOW ! ! Send this to everyone you know...
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 01:28 PM by YvonneCa
...who reads:-) , and read it to the rest. This explains the Democratic moral values disconnect better than anything I've seen yet. Thank you, Robert Kennedy. Jr.:patriot:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:12 PM
Response to Original message
23. I love Bobby Jr
But if he ran for President he'd be signing his own death warrant. :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RJRoss Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:19 PM
Response to Original message
25. Excellent speech!
My favorite parts:

"There is nothing wrong with corporations. Corporations are a good thing. They encourage us to take risks, they maximize wealth, they create jobs. I own a corporation.

They’re a great thing but they should not be running our government."

"Where my children and the children of most Americans can now no longer safely engage in the seminal primal activity of American youth which is to go fishing with their father and mother and to come home and eat the fish because somebody gave money to a politician."


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. Welcome to DU!
Glad you're here. Hope you'll help us get RID OF THESE BASTARDS, and put somebody like RFK Jr in power, in their place.

IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!!!

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:23 PM
Response to Original message
27. Kick!
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC