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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:58 PM
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I'm really depressed
Bush's solution to the Katrina disaster is to continue with more disastrous policies.

Cuts in spending (isn't that what happened to the levee in the first place?), more tax cuts for the rich (again, isn't that what happened to the levee funds in the first place?), and refusing to raise taxes (how the fuck can we pay for all of this with billions going to Iraq?).

It's so depressing.

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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:00 PM
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1. I'm concerned about the military possibly taking over the law
enforcement, too. Is this the beginning of a very bad trend?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:38 PM
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24. I doubt that will happen...
Most, even in the highest offices of the military despise what the Bushies, under Donald Rumsfeld, has done to the military. Privately most don't even agree with the war in Iraq, or at least, the way it is being fought (ne exit strategy, fewer troops than needed, poor equipment...)

The MORE distrurbing thing, to me, is the fact that Cheney has brought in the Blackwater Mercenaries to "patrol" New Orleans during the rebuilding. These are highly-paid mercnaries on American soil, armed to the teeth, and gawdonlyknows what sort of orders they have been given in regard to shooting "looters" on sight, etc. THESE PEOPLE, I believe could and would follow an order to take over the government, say, if Martial Law was to be declared.

Life under Bush in this country is like living a George Orwell book for real. These are strange and frightening times.

:hide:

TC
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 06:17 PM
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26. Yes, I agree, Blackwater in America is the very worst thing.
Very scary.

However, even if the military hates the order, they will follow it, just like they are doing in Iraq. They despise him and the way this war is being handled, but they are there doing their best to follow orders. I believe that if the order is to lock down an American city, it will be done.

:scared:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:00 PM
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2. yep-- the boosh admin's response will ALWAYS be...
...to fuck things up worse than they fucked them up before. It's the boosh "Fuck-up Doctrine" in action. They are relentlessly singleminded in pursuing it.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:03 PM
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3. just don't go saying farewell too...
look at the weekend toons..although I hate to say I'm still following some of the MSM reports, more and more newspapers are little by little influencing the independents...there are many of those and hopefully there is a big movement awakening...

I read this by Thomas Jefferson when I think I can't take it anymore...There are many quotes from founding fathers that remind me this is a cycle and all cycles have an end (although I still get down at times):


A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to it's true principles. It is true that in the mean time we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war & long oppressions of enormous public debt.

http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/P/tj3/writings/brf/jefl122.htm
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:08 PM
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6. I DO believe this, but . . .
I'm concerned that black box voting keep these goniffs in power long enough to steal or wreck everything.

It's hard to keep your spirits up.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:03 PM
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4. Illegitimae Non Carborundum, Catwoman!
Everyone here keeps me going, it reminds me that I am not alone.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:05 PM
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5. And he can't even hold his piss
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:14 PM
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9. yeah and he doesn't know how to button his shirt for God's sake!
I saw this yesterday posted here - the button on his shirt is in the wrong hole! Maybe Laura normally dresses him?



He is obviously incapable of doing many things. If he can't even button his shirt right and has to write notes in order to use the toilet um yeah, we got problems alright!

I think he is gone in the head!

IMPEACH NOW before we ALL DIE! :argh: (I'm depressed too ...) :(

:kick:

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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:41 PM
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17. Someone got in trouble for that.
No doubt...at all.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:10 PM
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7. And the Democratic Governor of LA PRAISES him in her radio Address
today. :cry:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:13 PM
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8. BBV really did it to we the people! My guess is, she is getting paid by
right wing nut jobs!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:17 PM
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10. So take a break, take a deep breath, and do something productive.
I know that sometimes this is easier said than done -- but it works ...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:18 PM
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11. depressing? yes... don`t mourn-organize
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 03:20 PM by madrchsod
actually we need to talk to as many people in our daily lives about what is going on. there`s alot of people who are finally realizing we are all screwed by this guy if something doesn`t change. we have a grand opening to discuss problems and solutions even to those who dismissed us in the past.
nothing could be more depressing than to lose what little that you had
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:20 PM
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12. One bright light:
Although, admittedly through the fog, I get the feeling that this giant bill may get bush to back out of Iraq. Of course considering how these turkey-butts will screw-up the pullout that probably means a regional war, but the MSM will shield us from that. They'll just tell us that the price of oil is a result of Katrina.

What is bringing me down is watching bush getting away with this. How the fuck big is that damn rug?
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:26 PM
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13. So am I, Catwoman, but this whole thing obviously is going to have
to play out like a slow-motion train wreck. Most of us can't even convince our relatives and acquaintances that the Bush gang is evil, even with the evidence staring them in the face. I cannot fathom the reason why this is, so I have to chalk it up to Fate, or History, or total corruption, none of which we can prevent all by ourselves. The people in this country are NOT WITH US on this yet. By the time they are, it will be too late in many ways.

Some solutions are individual ones -- make sure your health is the best it can be (exercise, eat right, see the doc when you have insurance); save some cash up if possible; pay off bills and mortgages if possible; develop and keep a grand circle of friends you can depend on; build an emergency stash of food, medicine, and important papers.

There is a point at which there is nothing more one can do. I feel we are rapidly reaching that point.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:29 PM
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14. It is, but tonight's the Full Moon
Make a wish. ;)
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:37 PM
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15. Don't forget dropping environmental regulations
ANOTHER problem from the beginning; BushCo allowed builders onto wetlands that regulated flooding so they no longer function "as God intended". The area is already an environmental catastrophe (and the Gulf was close to being one BEFORE the hurricane). Dropping safeguards and allowing big polluters to go wild will add another disaster to the mix.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:41 PM
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16. Hi from a bipolar
who went into a tailspin over Katrina and all the other horrible news of the past three weeks. My therapist told me last week she had seen patients for the first time in a couple of years who had become deeply depressed in the aftermath of the storm.

I don't know if you are clinically depressed, if you have a history of it, or if it's that the news is just so goddam awful. But I know you're sad and probably feel powerless—so you have a lot of company.

You have every reason to be depressed, but the folks who say to immerse yourself in something else totally unrelated to the news, have a point. It does help, although the magnitude of a crisis such as this is hard to get away from even in your dreams.

At any rate, you are among friends and like-minded souls here. Somehow, we will manage to get through this. Our people are better, more resourceful, and more decent that our government.

I will be thinking of you… Godspeed.

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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 04:27 PM
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18. I'm right there with you, Catwoman.
Even when he's taking a beating for leaving New Orleans hanging for days, the second response (after a big PR push) is to exploit the city's tragedy to advance his ideological goals. They really will stop at nothing.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 04:39 PM
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19. It comes and goes for me...
So maybe I should be talking to the bipolar guy.

I waver between being depressed by how much of a complete shithead Bush is to being hopeful that he will be SUCH a shithead that even his supporters will have to notice. And that, in turn, the next Republican to run will be tainted with the brush of his incompetence.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:00 PM
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20. "how the fuck can we pay for all of this with billions going to Iraq?"
One word: China


We're fucked. They have successfully looted the treasury, shredded the Constitution, & destroyed Democracy, all with the approval of 50% of Americans.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:10 PM
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21. I feel your pain...
I'm resigning myself more and more to what people must have felt like after Reconstruction was betrayed...it took about 100 years for that travesty to be rectified, and a lot of people who struggled for civil rights between the 1870s and the 1950s didn't live to see the fruits of their labor.

I think that's where we are now, those of us who are liberal, progressive. Corporate fascism is reigning and will for some time, I'm afraid. But we've still got to fight the good fight.

As MLK said, I may not get there with you, but I believe we'll reach the promised land again some day. We just have to keep on movin'.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:12 PM
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22. my 5 cats send their regards to yours -perk up
The winds of change will blow we just need to unite and be very smart about this. get the right words, message and messengers.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:28 PM
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23. Take heart, it may finally cause a SPLIT in the republican party,
remember..they want to get re-elected in 2006.

I have a feeling this is the last straw for them.

I'm hoping something good comes out of this. Bernie Ward thinks Bush has finally gone over the edge and I think he may be right.

I have no doubt Bush is heavily medicated and is having a very hard time coping. Think of what his legacy will be. A complete and utter failure in all areas.

You watch...in 20 years if Iraq becomes a democracy...Bush will claim credit for it!

When I feel down, I think about Bush after he is out of office and has no power....he is soooo hated the world over...he will need to live in a bubble the rest of his life.
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bandy Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 06:06 PM
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25. Please, CatWoman,
shake it off. You have been a strength for a lot of us, you are one of those we have depended on. We must carry on and fight the good fight. We can't give up now. You seem to be tougher then anything the *Co can dish out. You give in to depression and you will take a lot of us with you! We can't afford that at this critical time.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 06:19 PM
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27. Remember politics goes in cycles. Today's hero is
tomorow's turd blossom.

Think of the cats, I have one who plays fetch with me. I throw a toy mouse and he returns it like a pup.

Wonderful creatures. Cheerio.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 06:32 PM
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28. Oh no!
When I'm depressed I look to your posts to cheer me up!

Don't get too depressed. If Democrats don't gain Congressional seats in 2006 (or God forbid lose seats), depression may be called for in which case, I'll buy the first 5 rounds (assuming I'm still employed).

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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 06:34 PM
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29. I'm past depressed - I'm MAD at these F**kers
Madder than I've ever been politically.

There's bad times ahead CW, real bad times coming in this country, understandable to be depressed at how powerless we seem.

But the pendulum is starting to swing, and we WILL get our country back, stripped down, violated, broke and reviled throughout the world.

And when we get it back we will build for everyone in this beautiful diverse country, a nation based on equality, justice and responsible government.

Take heart and believe in the goodness of the human spirit. It will triumph.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 06:39 PM
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30. Cheer up! Only three more years
then another stolen election!

Wait, that doesn't help..
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 06:51 PM
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31. Catwoman, you ain't the only one....
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 06:52 PM by Gloria
It's like banging your head against the wall over and over, isn't it?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2097103&mesg_id=2097103

See my own cry for help....
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:02 PM
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32. Turning the gulf into a Right Wing Wet Dream
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 07:10 PM by Julius Civitatus
They are using the disaster in NOLA as an opportunity to shove their extreme right-wing policies, just like they did in Iraq. Just the fact that Karl F*cking Rove has been placed in charge of the reconstruction tells you everything you need to know:

  • All kookoo crazy rightwing policies imagined by the Cato Institute and the American Enterprise Institute will be enforced, in detriment of the poor and to benefit the 1% rich elites.

  • No bid contracts will be awarded to reconstruct the area to companies managed by Repug donors (Halliburton and Bechtel are already in the deal). Did I mention they are already calling for tax cuts for the rich?

  • All 20th Century policies that made America a more fair place to live will be abolished in the region. Bush has already eliminated wage regulations that warranty a minimum wage to workers in reconstruction contracts in the region. This DOES NOT MEAN the reconstruction of NOLA will be cheaper. Beware: it will cost the same, but Halliburton and Bechtel will pocket the difference.

  • All social programs and safety nets will be removed, everything will be privatized, and NOLA will be reconstructed as a white, rich people resort. The wealthy elite in Louisiana is already lobbying to keep the poor black that lived there from coming back to the region.
NOLA will be used, like Bagdad, as a excuse to transfer an obscene amount of the American wealth fro mthe poor to the rich. At the same time, it's another excuse to eliminate any vestiges of social justice from the region.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:13 PM
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33. Well, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 07:15 PM by MissMarple
For what it's worth, Pete Peterson in "Running On Empty" says we need leadership and voting Americans to ask for the truth, however much that hurts. He says (paraphrased) that the party that lies the most will lose in the next realigning election, and offers a quote from John Arbuthnot an early observer of political parties in modern Europe. "All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies".


:bounce: :crazy: :bounce: :crazy: :bounce: :crazy: :bounce: :crazy: :bounce:

It's time for chardonnay and a good hearted, but not sappy movie, one with good visuals. Wedding Crashers was great, but I don't have that at home, yet, so, mm....maybe Legally Blond. And tomorrow, shopping, most definitely shopping. I need some new jeans. Honest!
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:27 PM
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34. I'm depressed too. My Bush haiku of this morning...
Bush

we call out once more
unheard, we must have lost the
password to your heart

Ok, so a great poet, I'm not. But for me to be writing poetry means I'm REALLY depressed. Why can't he see?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:55 PM
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35. Do we all have"too much information?"
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 08:58 PM by KoKo01
from an earlier post by DU'er "Kentuck" today. Asking if "too much information" might be not such a good thing. (I'm paraphasing the post)

Here's the link. There were some interesting replies there..might help with the depression.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4803499
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