Bush Wants To Bankrupt America-There is Method To His Madness

[Carla in Ca]

This is an article written by Sam Hamod on July 1, 2003. Not only is it accurate, what has occurred in the two years since writing it is chilling, to say the least. The question is why? The answer that comes to my mind is, of course, the PNAC. Will the top 2% of the country have complete control of the country? Is this why he had to 'win' in 2000 and 2004, whatever the cost?
I have sent the author an email asking him for his opinion. I will post the reply if I get one.
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07/01/03: Some have wondered if GW Bush knows what he's doing with his tax cut that benefits the corporations and the very rich, and cuts away the remaining money of the poor and the middle class. I say yes, he does know what he'd up to, as do his corporate advisors and his neo-con economist friends and theorists, chief among them Grover Norquist. Norquist has been the chief architect behind the dismantling of the American federal financial structure in terms of benefits for the common citizen, but has helped to create the superstructure of tax breaks for the very rich and the corporatocracy that now has a choke-hold on America.

The plan is very simple, but not obvious on first blush. Make sure that all the money is gone from the U.S. treasury, make sure the deficits are so great that all social and educational programs are cut, increase the military and security budgets to "protect our nation" with all these monies going to corporations and security firms who are extra-national (not tied to any country, but actually more than multi-national in that they are outside the purview of any nation at any single moment) and stave in the social security fund by allowing it to go to private corporations for "investment"-and you have the perfect scenario for saying, "only the private sector can save us-we're broke and they have the money to run every program, fund every program, but of course, at huge costs and profits for the private corporations." Our only resource will be the corporate lenders, especially the large extra-national corporations who will have loyalty to no one except their corporate coffers and large share owners throughout the world.

This plan is so obvious at this point that it is hard to believe because it is happening so fast and the Democrats and even conservative non- neo-con Republicans don't realize what Bush and his neo-con buddies are up to.

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[enid602]

1. or . . . .

Or, they might just want to drain the treasury and amass debt so that when our creditors force us to tighten our belt, all social (non-military) expenditures will be eliminated, and citizens will be forced to go to churches for services the feds provided in the past.

[Rocinante]

2. This has been the pipe dream

of many republicans for decades. Now they have control of the three branches of federal government and are going full tilt to implement their plan.

The damage is being done as we speak, and I fear some of it will be irreversible.

[shance]

3. Bush/Cheney/PNAC are trying to bankrupt so they can install a military

fascist state. It certainly looks like the plan even comes from Hitlers playbook. They are doing it as I write. it seems Cheney and Rumsfeld have hired Mexican and Dutch military to patrol on our soil down in New Orleans, Mississippi, and Texas which is of course illegal.

I believe the only way to counter this is for Americans to turn off the Republican media networks, and we must become fearless in confronting all areas of the truth, no matter how difficult and/or painful.

Its going to be much more painful, similar to what the Germans endured, if we dont.

[Carla in Ca]

6. Then why has he spread the military

so thin,with so many dead and wounded? Getting Iraq's oil was important for their cause? And I assume they didn't intend for it to turn out so badly so is that why Venezuela may be their new target?

[shance]

9. Dont believe everything you see Carla. None of us can trust all or even

part of what is being told to us by mainstream media. We have to be discerning these days.

I don't have many answers at this point, but I do have many questions and I think we all should. There is a lot we are not being told.

That's a VERY good question you ask regarding spreadking the military so thin. Think about it Carla.

WHY would someone want to do that? Wouldn't logic tell you that for whatever reason they are weakening our military which would make us MORE vulnerable here.


This Administration would logically want us more vulnerable here, economically and militarily so it is then easier to take full control. In addition a weakened American military would not be capable to confront a mobilized army, or armies coming from other countries.

[...of J.Temperance]

13. Is Jean your little dog? She's gorgeous n/t

[Carla in Ca]

27. Thanks, yes that is our 4 year old.

n/t

[Auntie Bush]

29. Can you imagine having to leave that precious dog if you were

evacuated? What an awful heartbreaking decision all those poor people had to make!

[Carla in Ca]

31. Oh, I can only imagine the anguish

I hope we have done some good here at DU with our petitions and emails to get the laws changed. ALL members of the family must be rescued.
And, no, Jean would never be left behind. The three of us are a family and we will all leave together. Period.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. ok lets clarified

the Meixcan and Duth Personnel are there as AIDE in time of crisis helping rebuild schools and clean up. Usually this is a job for the NG which happen to be in Iraq. Instaed of concering yourself about the help willingly given to this country in time of crisis, think what is Blackwater doing patrolling NOLA? Them budy ARE civilians, who have been authorized by DoD to carry weapons that at times not even our AD component carries.

Ah the racism is thick here as well as the lack of knowledge of what is going on... so we should also send the DART team home? How about the German unit helping clear NOLA?

Sheesh, peoole confuse international help from over 90 countries with hiring them.

[shance]

34. Nadin, are you aware it's ILLEGAL to have foreign troops on our soil?

Are you also aware how many other countries offered what we REALLY need as in aid, not by military forces and conditioning citizens to become accustomed to seeing foreign troops in their cities, but REAL aid that would actually help the survivors get back on their feet?

[Clark2008]

35. I don't think that post meant any racism.

I think it meant to point out that there are foreign armies patrolling our land - which is not only illegal, but frightening. They don't take oaths to protect our citizenry.

In any case, how is it racist to say something against the Dutch?

Not fussing at you - just wondering why you thought that statement was racist.

[RoyGBiv]

4. Starve the Beast

This is not old and certainly not one of Shrub's ideas. He and his his ideological allies are doing a damn fine job of implementing it, but it doesn't start, or more importantly end, with him. We would do well to remember that.

[texpatriot2004]

5. We have a choice in the matter. That's what you mean, right? n/t

[Dogmudgeon]

7. I personally don't understand it

Ruining the country in order to better control it makes no sense, even from the point of view of a rich person and/or a plutocrat. It's like trashing your car in order to get a better trade-in price for it -- only with a whole country and a vast economic / military / technical infrastructure. The end result of the agendas they're following will not be a continent-wide power that can take control of the world, but a wasteland that will belong to a million absentee landlords with no incentive to rehabilitate the property, let alone to relieve the suffering of the tenants.

Sure, hard times give our beloved leaders more excuses to shorten the leash, but what good comes from degrading that which one wants to posess more closely?

I can only come to one conclusion -- the neo-Con agenda has been shaped, and is being executed, by severely mentally ill and destructive people. And not only are they sick in the head, but they are so deluded that they are unable to see this as anything other than progress.

I stopped trying to make sense of it long ago. There is no real method to the madness -- only the madness of an irrational political movement in a frenzied rush to meet its own death.

My big fear is that it will take the rest of us with it, but I am also confident that, like the last Soviet "palace coup", the principals will fall apart as they lift the sword to administer the killing blow.

May that day come sooner, rather than later.

--p!

[Carla in Ca]

8. That is my fear as well

"It will take the rest of us with it".
I suppose the next example will be which programs have their budgets cut to help pay for Katrina. I think we all know which ones.

[verdalaven]

10. I agree, except

I believe that at least some of the principles are probably intelligent, they simply did not figure that Iraq would be as devastatingly difficult or costly to work through. I really believe they thought that Iraqis would be more welcoming of regime change and that oil would pay for the war.

As for their wishing to take over the country: they are trying. But not in the way one poster suggested, militarily or coups style where we lose all our rights at once. I do believe if that happened on a large scale (if it could happen on a large scale) they'd find themselves dealing with an unpleasant uprising.

I made this observation lightly in another thread a while back on almost the same subject and I will pose it again. Why would this administration allow the automatic weapon ban to fall by the waste side, allowing Americans to arm themselves military style, if their goal was to eventually impose martial law and take over the country? Are they going to do house to house searches and disarm us all? Talk about a major undertaking. I'd be more worried if they silenced the NRA and started touting gun control to the extreme.

I've no doubt they are greedy bastards. I do think they are out to fleece this country and grab as much power as possible. In the end, greed can be a form of insanity.

[Dogmudgeon]

11. It's part of the madness

They're narcissists, as are many crazy people and movements. The world revolves around them and their "fixations", one of which is firearms (concerning the automatic weapons ban). They don't notice that the Left has largely turned away from its longstanding gun-control stance for fear they will have to defend themselves in turn from right-wing gun nuts.

Insanity makes people inefficient, to say the least. They have as much desire to bankrupt people who are not in their tribe as to enrich themselves and their own. They are proceeding willy-nilly in their rapine, and usually appear to have their heads up their own asses.

A sleek, efficient system of personal enrichment can be quite beneficial for society, which is why Capitalism has produced improvements as well as damages in the last two centuries -- as Marx presciently described. But this isn't the same thing. It's a small tribe of wacky ideologues who are driven by (metaphorical) demons, and they won't stop until they are dead and reduced to the elements from which they came. We can't expect them to behave all that predictably -- and we must be ready for behavior that is neither predictable, rational, nor even sane.

--p!

[Peggy Day]

25. Narcissists that's what they are! At least some of them n/t

[leesa]

14. They didn't believe that for a moment. They knew what would happen in

Iraq. They starved Iraq as long as they could to make them weak for the taking. The US and Israel were the two countries that held the sanctions on Iraq when the rest of the world was begging for them to be lifted.

They knew exactly what they were walking in to. They knew the country did not have WMD, or much of anything conventional, so they could invade easily. They also knew the people would react violently to an unprovoked invasion and provide the chaos they would need to steal the billions being sent by us.

[bluedawg12]

20. They believed their own propaganda

"I believe that at least some of the principles are probably intelligent, they simply did not figure that Iraq would be as devastatingly difficult or costly to work through. I really believe they thought that Iraqis would be more welcoming of regime change and that oil would pay for the war."

Yes, they wanted to succeed. they did believe we would be met with flowers and not guns.

But, their flaw was in believing that with little real intelligence on the ground, that we could understand the mind set of three divided factions in Iraq and the arrogance to think that what we lacked in understanding about the Iraqi response to our invasion could be made up for by our military might. This last assessment from so called chicken-hawks think tankers, arms dealers, in short neoconnies.

[nvliberal]

15. It's a cult, pure and simple.

There's no rationality to it, certainly nothing supports it historically, and it's doomed to failure because we KNOW such nonsense doesn't work.

It didn't work in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and that's why all of the regulations and programs were instituted. In fact, all of those laws and institutions PRESERVED capitalism from certain ruination, and now these morons want to endanger it again under the banner of "free enterprise."

These fascists are signing their political death warrants. The Republican Party will not long survive because it has allowed itself to be boxed in by these delusional people. The only question is how much damage they do to the country before they end up in the trashbin of history.

[izzie]

12. I do think they wish to take out all the new deal stuff.

I can not get it out of my mind that Bush told one of his college teachers that you were lazy if you were poor. Teacher's quote not mine. I also think it is some what in the Bible that you will do as your leaders tell you to do and he thinks he was born to rule.His base do think they get the power from God where as our founders thought you got the power from the people if I recall right. For those people who think God gave them and Bush the power to rule you have a big problem with thinking like an American.

[nvliberal]

16. It's not just the New Deal.

They want to abolish public education, for example, which goes clear back to before the founding of the republic.

It's a cult, and none of what they propose would EVER work without creating chaos, civil war, and a violent overthrow of the government in power.

[The Sleeper]

17. Exactly.

The only question is how much are they going to fuck everything up before we the people put a stop to it. To serve their idelogy, they would turn the entire country into a labor camp....and congradulate themselves all the while.

first order of business, be prepared for anything.....

[Wordie]

18. ...and the plan has FAILED. We need money for Katrina response/rebuilding

and WHERE is it? We are going to have to BORROW from China in order to run our country. The public MUST be made aware of this, because once this is generally known, and the riskiness of the Bush ideological dismantling of our government is realized, it will be the end of Bush et al and we can go about the job of trying to repair our country.

You are right. Much of what has been done by Bush is part of this ideological plan. It has been shown by the disaster to be a failure. The budget surplus was like a savings account, to be saved for a "rainy day." Katrina was a rainy day, but Bush had already SPENT our country's savings account to pursue his ideological goals. We MUST wake up from this and do something about it!

EDITED TO ADD:
I really hope that those in MSM and those being interviewed by MSM will drive home this point repeatedly. The failure of these policies has been completely exposed by the Katrina disaster. I have not heard it enough and it NEEDS to be said.

EDITED A SECOND TIME TO ADD ONE MORE THING:
It really doesn't matter what the intent behind the ideology may be. Whether the intent is well-meaning but foolish, or whether it is a greedy power grab, none of that really matters, because the RESULTS of the ideology have been a dismal failure, as all of us, whether republican or democrat, right or left, must CLEARLY see in light of the economic mess we are in now. Start telling the conservative RW that as a result of these ideologically motivated policies, we are now forced into a position of borrowing from China. THAT will get the results we want, no matter what the original intent of the policies may be.

[bluedawg12]

19. Anarcho capitalism and Grovler Nosetwist

You know how far right wingers fear a “new world order, and a one world governement? Well, they have now embraced it with the Repug rulers they voted in.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

>Anarcho-capitalism is a philosophy based on the idea of individual sovereignty (or "self-ownership"), an unlimited right to private property and a prohibition against initiatory coercion and fraud, with contracts between sovereign individuals being the basis of law. From this is derived a rejection of the state (an entity claiming a territorial monopoly on the use of force) and the embrace of absolute laissez-faire capitalism. Anarcho-capitalists would aim to protect individual liberty and property by replacing a government monopoly, which is involuntarily funded through taxation, with private, competing businesses.

The philosophy embraces stateless capitalism as one of its foundational principles. <

and

>One particular ramification is that transfer of property and services must be voluntary on the part of both parties. No external entities can force an individual to accept or deny a particular transaction. An employer might offer insurance and death benefits to same-sex couples; another might refuse to recognize any union outside his or her own faith. Individuals would be free to enter into contractual agreements as they saw fit, allowing discrimination or favoritism based on language, race, gender, sexual orientation, or any other categorization. Anarcho-capitalists maintain that the social structure would be self-regulating, since any disenfranchised group can avail themselves of boycott or protest, and other entrepreneurs will see their own interests (i.e., profit) in servicing the group.<

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist

>Grover Glenn Norquist (born October 19, 1956), the president of the noted anti-tax lobbying group Americans for Tax Reform, is a well-connected conservative activist with close ties to business and the media. His close business and political ties to recently-indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff are the subject of a current federal investigation<

>Norquist was one of the so-called "Gang of Five" identified in Nina Easton's 2000 book by that name, which gives a history of leaders of the modern conservative movement. He has been described as "a thumb-in-the-eye radical rightist" (The Nation), and "Tom Paine crossed with Lee Atwater plus just a soupçon of Madame Defarge" (P.J. O'Rourke). Norquist has been noted for his widely quoted quip: "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub." The pledge of "no new taxes" that many Republican legislators have signed was his project.<

and later...

>Even within conservative circles, he has made some enemies, possibly due to what some describe as a combative personality. Columnist Tucker Carlson criticized him as a "mean-spirited, humorless, dishonest little creep ... an embarrassing anomaly, the leering, drunken uncle everyone else wishes would stay home... is repulsive, granted, but there aren't nearly enough of him to start a purge trial" *. In his book Blinded by the Right, former conservative David Brock revealed that even fellow right-wingers privately refer to him as "Grosser Nosetwist" and try to avoid being trapped in conversation with him at social gatherings because he never talks about anything other than politics.<

[Robertwf]

21. A simple case of the new Rovenomics

Bankrupt the country and you will have the two class system they have always wanted. What do you think they are outsourcing like mad for--i.e. Microserfs have their own offices in India, etc. Wealthy money is carefully invested elsewhere--in younger countries. The money of the wealthy will be offshore--they will follow, and the unfit for survival--the rest of us--will be left behind. It will make the Kaos of Katrina look like heaven.

[bluedawg12]

22. Can't wait and the dumb f*cks who put him there will

be "left behind."

[Carla in Ca]

26. That is one of the pieces of this puzzle

that doesn't fit in the neocon plans. We are not divided as a country when it comes to education, caring for our elderly, gas prices or social security, etc. Won't millions of republicans soon realize they have been lied to?

[cassiepriam]

24. where will the wealthy go once they have ruined our country? nt

[Wizard777]

30. Cheney already has a lot of it in his Halliburton holding company.

[bluedawg12]

32. EXACTLY what I was thinking a bottomless quest for money

is an empty goal. After a certain obscene amount, life becomes more, not less, complex, less time to enjoy, more to worry and manage.

So money alone cannot be the reason for this insane rush on power, and greed, to the point of ruining it all. All places will be ovcercrowded,polluted, and circled by pockets of poverty and crime. Not even the wealthy will have peace, isolation, or security.

[Fire Walk With Me]

23. Watch for anything in flames; then they move in.

Or create the flames, then move in. Think they learned anything from their friends at Enron? Think gas prices are going to go down?

Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

[zann725]

33. Shrub's comment re: the space program funding today...'cut Social programs

...and my first thought was 'There goes Social Security.' No discussion. And quickly over the weekend, it was announced that Medicare was going up 13%? Right before Medicare recipients were ALLEGEDLY to begin receiving increased drug benefits...which Shrub has been crowing about for months. So essentially the poorest, weakest among us are paying for their own benefits.

Wow. And with WHOSE taxes are all these things being done?

[earth mom]

36. KICK!