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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:45 PM
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WTF? FEMA Detainment camp, residents not allowed to leave
for 5 months or wont be allowed to come back, not allowed to look for a job, nothing. Check out this story:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html

I just got back from a FEMA Detainment Camp

I'm extremely depressed to report that things seem to only be getting sadder concerning the people so devastatingly affected by Katrina last week. Two car loads of us headed over to Falls Creek, a youth camp for Southern Baptist churches in Oklahoma that agreed to have its facilities used to house Louisiana refugees. I'm afraid the camp is not going to be used as the kind people of the churches who own the cabins believe it was going to be used.
-SNIP-

From the moment I heard about Falls Creek being scheduled to receive refugees I had two thoughts run through my mind:

1. What a beautiful place to be able to stay while trying to get your life back in order.

2. What a terrible location to be when you're trying to get your life back in order.

The first thought is because Falls Creek is nestled in the Arbuckle Mountains of south central Oklahoma. One of the more beautiful regions of the state. It would be a peaceful and beautiful place to try to start mending emotionally, and begin to figure what you're going to do next.

The second thought comes because Falls Creek is very secluded and absolutely no where near a population center. The closest route from Falls Creek to a connecting road is three miles on a winding narrow road called "High Road" (It gets that name for two reasons - it's goes over the mountain instead of around it like "Low Road" does, and it's where the teenagers of the area go to party). The road has not a single home on it for over 3 miles. After battling that 3 miles over mountains, you'll find yourself about 5 miles from the nearest town, Davis, Oklahoma, population ca. 2000. This is no place to start a new life.

-snip-

It gets worse.

He then precedes to tell us that some churches had already enquired into whether they could send a van or bus on Sundays to pick up any occupants of their cabins who might be interested in attending church. FEMA will not allow this. The occupants of the camp cannot leave the camp for any reason. If they leave the camp they may never return. They will be issued FEMA identification cards and "a sum of money" and they will remain within the camp for the next 5 months.

My son looks at me and mumbles "Welcome to Krakow."

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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:48 PM
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1. What good is an ID card and cash
if you can't leave...MSM needs to cover this story...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:48 PM
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2. The Red Cross evacuee place by us isn't like that
Each person has a tag (like an employee type tag) and as long as they have that to show on their way back in, they can always come and go as needed. Some have tried to find work already. My friend volunteers, and she says they have debit cards that have no limit on them, with which to buy stuff. She helped one guy go get shoes.

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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:55 PM
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5. that tells me the difrence in how the AMR and the Fed govt are handleing
These things. Gov. Blanco was saying the other day that the Feds wanted her to file under the Insurrection statute instead of the disaster statute, allowing the feds to use more (deadly) force... its starting to come to gether (or apart?)
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:50 PM
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3. If this is true, it explains the Republican obsession with looting.
How could you justify this bullshit unless you've convinced America these people are bad.

This is how the British treated colonial Americans.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:53 PM
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4. Ill bet the Army recruits heavily out of these places
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:02 PM
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6. Holy Cow - a goverment emp. respone on the website
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:11 PM
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7. Interesting, very interesting.
I hope a human rights group compliles a list of all these camps and monitors them to insure that peoples rights are not violated, this situation with these camps offers lots of room for the govt to roll right over the citizens.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:18 PM
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8. the mayor of New Orleans said today...
....that the people who will be allowed back into the city will be the ones who are "mobile" and with some resources. This means that poor folk will be kept out. Also, the elderly and children will be kept out.

Somethin's happenin' here. What it is ain't exactly clear. Stop children, what's that sound? Everybody look what's goin' down....
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:42 PM
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9. the last time this was posted, it was pointed out that the site you cite
is not exactly reliable.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:54 PM
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10. this has been discussed frequently at DU......the whole thing is cancelled
http://www.bgco.org/?p={4743AE70-68B3-4162-9754-BED007E6043A}&nh={E1629723-F035-4581-A141-40FF038D528B}&sc=25&ni=524&fr=news

September 13, 2005 4:42 PM
by Ray Sanders

Falls Creek Relief Efforts Called Off

Oklahoma City, OK -- September 12, 2005 – After having anticipated the arrival of survivors from Hurricane Katrina for nearly two weeks, Governor Henry announced Tuesday that at the request of FEMA, relief efforts at Falls Creek are no longer needed.

In a letter to the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma, the Governor offered heartfelt thanks to the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma and its member churches for their recent mobilization to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina....

more....
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:56 AM
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11. I think we must thank those caring individuals who brought this to light.
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 12:56 AM by shance
It does make me wonder what, if any, other 'detainment camps' we may in fact not know about.

We must keep shining the light on those situations that warrant investigation.
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