If Clark comes in third, here is what the pundits will say.

[bhunt70]

"General Clark had a poor showing in New Hampshire coming in a distant third behind John Kerry and Howard Dean tonight in New Hampshire. General Clark barely beat North Carolina Senator John Edwards, even with Wesley Clark skipping the Iowa Caucuses last week he could not capitalize on Howard Dean faltering. His neck and neck race with John Edwards a possible implication that his viability as a candidate is going down while John Edwards is still on the rise from his amazing second place finish in Iowa."

[bigwillq]

1. Sad to say I kind of agree with that

But next Tuesday is a new day

[Turkw]

24. At the same time, they are saying that Edward's Fourth place keeps him in

the race and he did well, while Clark, with more votes, is dead! Nice unbiased logic from the pundits, no agenda there. Clark has been in the race for less than half a year, to the other candidates- who are career politicians- have been in for over a year and a half.

What spin, I get angrier every day.

[lancdem]

2. I actually think Clark and Edwards

have a very good chance of doing well in the next round of states.

[arewethereyet]

3. that pretty much sums it up

except that his rapid decline post Iowa will be addressed.

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. The corporate media succeeded

in promoting Rove's choice for the democratic nomination. Despite the media's attempts to ignore Clark or write him off, he came in a respectable 3rd place. Clark is expected to gain momentum in the upcoming southern state primaries.

[blm]

8. Clark can pull through. Kerry was declared dead for months and it really

hurt his fundraising which dried up because of all the bad press. They ignored Edwards for months, too. Both came through DESPITE the media, and Clark can, too.

[Baclava]

5. Just say no...

That cat scares me. I would rather have Sharpton as president than Clark. There's just something about him that's creepy.

[magatte]

7. yeah...

Just something... :eyes:

Keep informed. You had the curiosity to find DU, keep reading, keep listening! Making an informed decision is your duty as a voter.

:hi:

[Jack_Dawson]

9. What scares you? Please elabourate.

[Baclava]

12. Well...

Didn't he almost start WWIII in the Kosovo/Serbia conflict with the Russians? If Clinton fired this guy because he couldn't be trusted with the military, he's got to be a real piece of work, now doesn't he? I just think he's spooky.

[The Magistrate]

18. Well, Mr. Baclava

No, he did no such thing. An insubordinate and hysterical Englishman made an over the top statement that has entertained a number of thoughtless persons, but that is about the size of it. The idea that Russia would have begun nuclear hostilities over precedence at Pristina airport is arrant and utter nonsense. The Russians were breaking their word by being there, and ought to have been evicted.

Gen. Clark's removal, actually an early retirement, was engineered not by President Clinton, but by the Republican Sec. Cohen and vaious reactionary officers on the Joint Chiefs.

If you are going to peddle swill like this, fellow, do try and come up with something new....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Baclava]

20. Well, well...

Its...
a landslide...

We won, we won, we won ,we won, we won.....

[PatGund]

19. To answer your questions....

Short form, no and no.

Long form:

Regarding Kosovo, take a look at http://www.clarkmyths.com/myth4.html

Regarding Clinton, Clinton didn't fire Clark. The Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, wanted his boy in a four-star position, and had a beef against Clark. So he "retired" Clark early, and then leaked the retirement to the press so Clinton couldn't reverse the decision. Clinton later gave Clark the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian award.

It's interesting to note that one of the people who have made that claim, Hugh Shelton, is a consultant for the Edwards campaign.

http://www.clarkmyths.com/myth10.html

[mikehiggins]

22. Uh, for those of us who can read

the history of that situation is posted a lot of different places.

For those of us who are over the age of twelve, we know that a confrontation between british troops and soviet troops over a runway at the Pristina airport is not going to start WWIII. That storyline might play in Marvel Comics or on the SF channel but in real life it was bullshit then, and the Brit who made the comment even said so himself.

As to CLinton firing him, that is bullshit as well. Clark made some enemies in the pentagon and they used some bureaucratic rigamarole to ease Clark out and another general in. Clinton was told, according to him at least, that it was just a normal reassignment. Since there was no other 4-star position open to Clark he was compelled to retire by Army rules. Just office politics.

And, before you ask, Shelton admitted to the Hague warcrimes judges that his crack about why Clark was removed was just politics.

Since the media and the GOP want Clark to just go away, those parts of the story rarely make it into the accounts.

What's creepy, and scary, is why the GOP doesn't have to worry about the press and tv and radio "news" operations ever questioning any crap they put out.

[arewethereyet]

15. I don't know why I'm scared of him thats the problem

its not possible to know whare he really is on anything with no record and conflicting statements or worse all the time.

And his platform is impossibly un-doable in a right wing Congress.

A guy with no track record has no business running for leader of the free world.

And there are bombs waiting to be dropped from the Pentagon, you know there are.

[arewethereyet]

10. at least you know what you're geting with Rev Al

its the eyes. if he were born 60 years earlier he would have been a great Bela Lugosi competetor.

[teevee99]

11. that's really very disrespectful of you

to act like that against a man who

a) has the courage to stand up and try to make a difference in this country against the scare/smear tactics of B* & co. and the media

and
b) took four bullets and dedicated 30 years of his life to protecting you and the rest of your fellow americans.

please, he does deserve your respect, even if you don't wish to give him your vote.

[tabasco]

16. That's how conservatives operate.

They will uphold a lying criminal like Ollie North while degrading national heroes like Clark.

[LiberalBushFan]

13. Keep saying that during the draft in 2005

Yeah, we could've nominated someone who could beat Bush and stop this disaster, but y'know, there was just something about him that was creepy.

[SaintLouisBlues]

6. Fox has him back on ignore

They only spoke of Dean and Kerry on the wrap-up just now.

Now I need a shower.

[democratreformed]

14. Unfortunately, I agree.

In fact, it has already begun.

[spooky3]

17. Guys, "tomorrow" (Feb. 3) is another day.

The landscape could be entirely different then.

This book has not been written.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. Wolf just said it.

Clark in 3rd place, BUT ONLY by 1000 votes ahead of Edwards. :grr:

Go Wes!

[mikehiggins]

23. Oh, that must have hurt him like a pine cone up the butt to say that eom

[deminflorida]

25. Stop HIM at all costs.....

that's what they will be spinning tomorrow!