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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:49 PM
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Hillary to vote NO on Roberts
For Immediate Release: September 22, 2005

Contact: Clinton Press Office 202.224.2243



STATEMENT OF SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ON THE NOMINATION OF JUDGE JOHN G. ROBERTS TO BE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UNITED STATES



The nomination of Judge John Roberts to be Chief Justice of the United States is a matter of tremendous consequence for future generations of Americans. It requires thoughtful inquiry and debate, and I commend my colleagues on the Senate Judiciary Committee for their dedication to making sure that all questions were presented and that those outside of the Senate had the opportunity to make their voices heard. After serious and careful consideration of the Committee proceedings and Judge Roberts’s writings, I believe I must vote against his confirmation. I do not believe that the Judge has presented his views with enough clarity and specificity for me to in good conscience cast a vote on his behalf.



The Constitution commands that the Senate provide meaningful advice and consent to the President on judicial nominations, and I have an obligation to my constituents to make sure that I cast my vote for Chief Justice of the United States for someone I am convinced will be steadfast in protecting fundamental women’s rights, civil rights, privacy rights, and who will respect the appropriate separation of powers among the three branches. After the Judiciary Hearings, I believe the record on these matters has been left unclear. That uncertainly means as a matter of conscience, I cannot vote to confirm despite Judge Roberts’s long history of public service.



In one memo, for example, Judge Roberts argued that Congress has the power to deny the Supreme Court the right to hear appeals from lower courts of constitutional claims involving flag burning, abortion, and other matters. He wrote that the United States would be far better off with fifty different interpretations on the right to choose than with what he called the “judicial excesses embodied in Roe v. Wade.” The idea that the Supreme Court could be denied the right to rule on constitutional claims had been so long decided that even the most conservative of Judge Roberts’s Justice Department colleagues strongly disagreed with him.



When questioned about his legal memoranda, Judge Roberts claimed they did not necessarily reflect his views and that he was merely making the best possible case for his clients or responding to a superior’s request that he make a particular argument. But he did not clearly disavow the strong and clear views he expressed, but only shrouded them in further mystery. Was he just being an advocate for a client or was he using his position to advocate for positions he believed in? The record is unclear.



It is hard to believe he has no opinion on so many critical issues after years as a Justice Department and White House lawyer, appellate advocate and judge. His supporters remind us that Chief Justice Rehnquist supported the constitutionality of legal segregation before his elevation to the high court, but never sought to bring it back while serving the court system as its Chief Justice. But I would also remind them of Justice Thomas’s assertion in his confirmation hearing that he had never even discussed Roe v. Wade, much less formed an opinion on it. Shortly after he ascended to the Court, Justice Thomas made it clear that he wanted to repeal Roe.



Adding to testimony that clouded more than clarified is that we in the Senate have been denied the full record of Judge Roberts’s writings despite our repeated requests. Combined, these two events have left a question mark on what Judge Roberts’s views are and how he might rule on critical questions of the day. It is telling that President Bush has said the Justices he most admires are the two most conservative justices, Justices Thomas and Scalia. It is not unreasonable to believe that the President has picked someone in Judge Roberts whom he believes holds a similarly conservative philosophy, and that voting as a bloc they could further limit the power of the Congress, expand the purview of the Executive, and overturn key rulings like Roe v. Wade.



Since I expect Judge Roberts to be confirmed, I hope that my concerns are unfounded and that he will be the kind of judge he said he would be during his confirmation hearing. If so, I will be the first to acknowledge it. However, because I think he is far more likely to vote the views he expressed in his legal writings, I cannot give my consent to his confirmation and will, therefore, vote against his confirmation. My desire to maintain the already fragile Supreme Court majority for civil rights, voting rights and women’s rights outweigh the respect I have for Judge Roberts’s intellect, character, and legal skills.



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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:50 PM
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1. VOTE
So why is Leahy voting yes??????
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:52 PM
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2. But but she's a DINO
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 05:52 PM by Ignacio Upton
She's a Bush-ass-kissing, politically opportunistic DINO.:sarcasm:
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:54 PM
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3. Haha..
:P
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:58 PM
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5. Agree
No politician is ever going to vote the way every Dem wants him/her to every time. Hillary got this one right and I am very appreciative.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:20 PM
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10. I have been tracking her votes
And I would safely say that she is definitely a Democrat. She voted with progressive issues 65% of the time, which is good enough for me (and probably a lot of those that criticize the more egregious Democrats). She is a good one, so she gets no barbs. It seems she talks moderate and votes predominantly left; fine by me.

In Roberts' case, she is taking the right tack (or the left, whatever).

The last paragraph of the OP pretty much summed up exactly what needs to be said by every Democrat. It is reasonable, it is right, and it runs in opposition to the Bush agenda. Bravo for Hillary!!

And beware, Republicans...continuing the support of this man that no one trusts WILL have political consequences. Bank on it, you freepazoid lurkers!!

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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:17 PM
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15. Yes she is
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 07:17 PM by drummo
Be she realizes that the closer she gets to the primaries the less
Bush friendly she has to be because the Dem primaries are dominated by liberals. Also, Bush is around 40%. It's no longer politically dangerous to turn on him. But where was Hillary when Bush had 80%? She was where she thought she could benefit the most politically. On Bush's side.
She is a trim and I don't have a short memory. I remember vividly what she said back in 2002,2003.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:52 AM
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26. She was with the other Senate Democrats.
Giving Bush the benefit of the doubt because they had no choice. The immediate post-9/11 period was not the time for this. What was Hillary supposed to do? Organize a coup de etat and take over the government? Get real.

I, for one, remain strongly in favor of going to Afghanistan, getting rid of the Taliban, and capturing Osama bin Laden, dead or alive. I think you'll find a large majority of DU'ers agree with me on this.

I probably wouldn't have been as trusting of Bush when it came to Iraq, but if we opposed every Democrat who voted in favor of giving Bush authority to go to war (which he subsequently abused), we wouldn't have a party. Now, would I rather run somebody in 2008 who knew the deal about Iraq from the get-go, like Howard Dean did? You betcha, but I doubt Hillary Clinton would go wind-surfing while the right-wing yahoos smeared her; she'd hit back, claws bared.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:54 PM
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4. Thank you Hillary.
I am so happy she came through on this one.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:58 PM
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6. I appreciate her leadership on this- thanx Hill!!!
!!!!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 08:04 PM
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22. Oh yeah. Whatsamatter with me. Violating my own code, I am.
Indeed, THANKS HILLARY!!
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:58 PM
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7. Good to have you come visit, Hil. Pull up a chair and stay awhile.
The grass is just as green over here. :thumbsup:
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:04 PM
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8. As opposed to attacking other Dems over Roberts as I have been
I must say that I am really surprised with the way these votes are going down--the "DINOs" are voting no on Roberts, and the Progressive Dems are voting yes. I can't really understand it.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:10 PM
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9. good cop, bad cop?
.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:28 PM
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11. I can't think of a downside..
... of a Dem voting against this nomination. He'll be confirmed anyway, no harm, no foul.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:37 PM
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12. Wow, that is a model political statement.
Basically calling him a right wingnut while at the same time complimenting him and leaving enough wiggle room so that she can still be on his side if she likes the way he turns out.

She's good.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:20 PM
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17. She's good at political calculation
If Kerry or Gore did this double-talk they would be called
flip-flopper not good politicians. But Hillary? Oh she is different.
She can afford a lot of things that other Dems can't because she has "star-power" or what the heck.
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:38 PM
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13. Now watch....
...as the corporate media whores publish a montage of columns and editorials on how Clinton's opposition to Roberts will "secure" her position with the progressive base for 2008. :eyes:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:50 PM
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14. That must've been one hell of a focus group!
Even Senator/Candidates that don't trim their nails unless the polling says they won't lose ground and a focus group comes back to say when would be okay are all voting NO. Kerry, Feinstein, now Clinton... Can't you just hear it? -- Let's find our spines together! It'll be safer that way!

Well, at least there will be some NO's to this creep. I'm glad some of them decided to do the right thing.

TC
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:19 PM
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16. What is this, the IWR in reverse?
Considering some folk believe that some Dems voted for the IWR for political expediency, what are the chances that some Dems have sensed a wind of change, to the left?
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:23 PM
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18. That wind of change
can be found in Bush's poll numbers. Come on. It's so transparent it's painful.
Can you imagine that Kerry, Hillary etc. would oppose Roberts if it was 2002 not 2005? No way.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:46 PM
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21. Kerry, yes. Hillary, no.
He's generally liberal. She's generally conservative. It's not such a shift for him. It is for her.

Kerry's been doing a Gore routine lately. Losing seems to have liberated him and a vote against Roberts fits right in with his vote against Condi and Gonzalez, back when Bush's numbers were just fine.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:44 AM
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29. That's a happy thought but....
no. Hillary knows Roberts will be confirmed no matter how she votes. Might as well toss a few crumbs to the base.

Julie
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:39 PM
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19. Careful, it could be dangerous...
to post something positive about Hillary. Hope you're wearing your asbestos collar.

Hillary rocks!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:45 PM
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20. Wow!!!!! This is all about woman's rights.
Thank you Hillary!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 08:08 PM
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23. Thank you, Hillary, for standing up to this clown,
even if the opposition is only symbolic.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 03:04 AM
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24. good for her
i have my differences on many votes but she is right on thhs,
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:24 AM
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25. It's the moderate thing to do;
voting for Roberts would be extremist - extreme RW that is.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:00 AM
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27. Let the Shape-Shifting Begin!
"I'm a Liberal", no, wait... "I'm a DLC Leader", no wait, "I'm a Liberal again."

"I'm voting for the war,", no... "We need more troops to finish the job", no wait, "I'll meet with Cindy Sheehan."

She's giving Jello a bad name, fercripessake.

I want REAL. I want AUTHENTIC. Someone who says what they mean, and means what they say... no matter what the latest focus groups or Polls tell them to say.

Is that too much to ask?

TC
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:42 AM
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28. It onoy means one thing:
She's running for President. However, as a candidate for Pres you would have thought she'd have shown leadership on this issue.
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