Is it just me, the back on the booze story..

[back2basics909]

Could be my tin-foil hat moment, but i have a bad feeling about it. The sources, two of them, must be close to the president. They have to be. The potential for a plant is high. Maybe not, but you have to admit we WANT to beleive it.

If they could get the story to run and show it to be wrong, they could frame a picture of an anti-Bush Media. We know from experiance that frame works with his base, and it would seem to confirm their belief.

[applegrove]

1. You have to take all the sudden "leaks" with a grain of salt.

[pitohui]

2. it's just you

anyone who has any experience of alcoholics or drug addicts knows that he's been using for a long time now, the man falls down more than gerald ford or boris yeltsin

any "plant" is to minimize the severity of his addiction, since we are supposed to believe he only started drinking after katrina, which is patently untrue to anyone w. two eyes in their head

the story is wrong only in that * is clearly using much much more than described in the story

[Cosmocat]

7. Drinking is a given ...

Frankly, I think he is back on the coke ...

I saw the press conference on "terrorism" (justifying the military occupation of Iraq) today, and while he is pretty much always a disaster when he goes off script, he was VERY shaky today ... Once he started taking questions, that "coke jaw" thing the AAR people talk about was full blown ...

I just don't see how this guy is going to make another three years without totally losing it ... The dam has broken, he doesn't have complete immunity from the media, congress is going to start breaking on him, the masses are waking up ...

I mean it, I think we are going to see things from this guy that people never could imagine that they would see from a president ... That clip Maher showed of him "taking responsibility" for Katrina, they slowed it down just a bit, and you could just see that he was ready to blow, that it just went against every grain of his being ...

On a side note ... They showed the crew pouring in for the press conference ... Rove slunk in and went into the back, then Cheney, Rummy, Condi and some general lined up behind Bushco ... This reminded me of one of the press conferences down in Crawford where Rummy, Cheney and Condi lined up on the road behing Bushco while he was talking ...

Looking at these people ... They just REAK of swarminess (like that is a word) ... It almost is the visual cue for Franken's Operation Chickenhawk ... These people just are vermin ...

[IntravenousDemilo]

13. I don't think it's coke jaw

He has the look of someone who is chronically constipated. And why wouldn't he be, considering what he's full of? In fact, the blockage is so extensive that it's actually backed up into his head.

He probably just needs a good poke to loosen him up.

[Rabrrrrrr]

3. Though being the Enquirer, it's likely that the two sources mentioned

were completely fabricated, and that the author of the article more than likely spoke to no one.

But yes, I DO admit, that I want - really, really want to believe it. In fact, I do believe that Fuckstick is drinking heavily, because I've never believed what I feel are his lies about stopping.

I would bet money the SOB war criminal is sloshed half the time.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he had violent outbursts like the article says.

That would be totally in character for an alcoholic, especially a spoiled rotten, miserable, ignorant one.

But I hold little stock in the Enquirer.

[No Blood for Hubris]

4. If it's Rove spin, which it well might be, Rove must be out of his

kidney-stone-pain-addled mind. Is he really trying to suggest that Bush started drinking because of his feelings of unbearable compassion that suddenly arose four days after Katrina hit?

I mean, cripes. Plus, BWA HA HA.

Duh. Karl needs some med advice from chubby druggie Rush.

Lamest spin I ever heard. Did Karl forget many people observed Bush's initial vacation landing in TX and how no ordinary people were allowed to view him? This well before Katrina?

Bwa ha ha indeed.

[QC]

5. The fact that the Enquirer would think it safe to print such an article...

is far more significant than whether or not the article is true. They would never have run such a thing back when Bush was Caesar, but now, it's safe to call him a boozer.

My, how things have changed.

[msanthrope]

25. Exactly--you got it, 100%---

Doesn't matter if it's true, it's that the Enquirer felt "emboldened" to print it.

Blood in the water...

[renie408]

6. He doesn't have to play to his real base

they would stick with him if he ate babies in the Rose Garden. Just as long as they were not aborted fetuses, that is.

How would you prove the story wrong? You would have to out the sources and prove they were lying. How would you do that? Make him submit to a breathalizer? Or they could say "I never said that." But then its the ENQUIRER. So,even if they prove it wrong, Bush's base may just think "Hey, maybe that two headed alien really DIDN'T give birth to quintuplets last week!!"

[karynnj]

22. He doesn't have to "prove" it wrong

Others will act with the same outrage that they did on the basically true Rather story. They will yell liberal media (ignoring al the Clinton stories) and defend the honor of the President - explaining that his appearance is simply a reflect of his genuine concern and anguish. This accusation is important as nothing else that has been written would be seen as totally unfair.

Oh, and they will criticize this and throw in all the other liberal media who are politicizing a natural disaster. They will then go after the Democrats who spoke up - starting with Kerry. (I'm not sure what they will do with the Clintons - she called for an investigation, he criticized Bush - but he's been their friend.)

Remember, he gets the benefit of the doubt. (Look at last year - 5 people were fired including one of the most esteemed broadcasters over the basically true National Guard story. Notice no one was even repremanded for all the SBVT stories of the TOTALLY MADE UP STORY on Fox with fake Kerry quotes saying he was a metrosexual and got manicures. The Kerry campaign couldn't even get the guy off covering their campaign.)

[caligirl]

8. recent reports by WH insiders wanting to be anonymous of his

outbursts anf tantrums, such as aides not wanting to deliver any bad news including Katrina news, seem to match up with the boozing story.

[John Q. Citizen]

12. Yep and that was in Newsweek. Oh, yeah, I just remembered, they

are as untrustworthy as the Enquirer.

Naw seriously, the Enquierer is probably spot on and they probably have some sources who gave them this information.

[postulater]

9. I don't get it

So what if he drinks, lots of people do. I thought drinking was mandatory if you were a politician.

I don't know why this would be such a big story. Certainly no bigger than the Clenis.

[KitchenWitch]

11. It is a big deal, since when he ran in 2000, he took great pains

to paint the picture that he had sobered up, and that he was an alcoholic.

[philarq]

10. The real story --may be that the Enquirer

and Page six papers like the Enquirer are abandoning the Red-State bias that they have shown to this point--While the "Space Alien" endorsing Clinton stories were interesting 12 or so years back, the Enqirer and itrs ilk turned upon Clinton when there was "blood in the water" so to say---perhaps next we get the Gennifer type press conference where the informants are trotted out.

[elfin]

14. Bet the "family source"

is Sharon - Neil's ex. who has heard it second or third hand from someone else - maybe one of her kids eavesdropping on dear old Dad.

Can't think of anyone else who would risk Bush retalilation over this.

[bklyncowgirl]

21. Maybe some Inquirer stringer got one of the Bush twins drunk.

Or maybe Laura is really serious about keeping her Bushie off the sauce.

[peacetalksforall]

15. Crap crap crap -

crap - since Katrina? ha! - he has been under something for a long time

crap - the Natl Enquirer didn't have a scoop - they are only being used - it's all a pretend scandal by design - all the big paper media ceo's got together with Cheney and the think tanks and they all figured out that the Natl Enquirer was the best to break it to the public using NA. No, no scoop, they agreed to be used.

crap - it was such a soft piece and another insult to our intelligences.

crap - that they would think that they could make us believe that this just started - they must be trying to break it to the followers and swallowers.

BUT - I'm glad it's out and let's hope for the nation that it isn't a cocaine habit also (or worse).

[TaleWgnDg]

16. "Bad feeling?" "Bad feeling?" . . .

"Bad feeling?" "Bad feeling?"

The "bad feeling" is that George Walker Bush, an alcoholic and drug addict, never got professional help. Never admitted to his addictive behavior. Instead, he "Jesus-freaked" his way to "recovery," exchanging one addiction of substance abuse with another addiction of over-zealous religious practice.

And, on top of that, any psychiatrist, psychologist, or well-qualified therapist can tell you that alcohol and/or drug addiction is self-medication for a deeper underlying mental disorder.

And, America voted-in this disordered individual! "Bad feeling," you say? That's putting it rather mildly.

.

[Bucky]

17. This doesn't track at all. Rove wouldn't start a whisper campaign on Bush

You don't start damning rumors about yourself just so you can shoot them down. Whisper campaigns always do damage to the topic of the rumors--even when they're later proven to be false. Just ask Richard Jewel, the security guard who was the hero of the Atlanta terror bombing that ultimately failed to disrupt the Olympics. Mostly what people remember about him is that he had little porno habit, but many others still wonder if he wasn't involved in planting the bomb.

[Cassandra]

18. With Rove, it's not a matter of what you plant...

but of where and how you plant.

[I_Will]

19. I jut had an awful thought...

...maybe it will all be correographed so that he has a tearful "Jimmy Swaggert" <http://badattitudes.com/MT/archives/002791.html>
moment of repenentence during a national TV interview, "reaffirming" his fundie underpinnings and re-igniting the base. All's forgiven, and like the backdraft in a burning building, they'll surge to vicious dominion over the rest of us, taking by whatever means that which isn't given to them willingly.

Man, I have to buy a better brand of tin foil (grin).

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. It could be the people who control Rove think Bush should be pushed out

Hence the sympathy strings they are pulling. That would be to get him out on better terms than if he is impeached or if he flubs 2006. I wonder if Cheney will resign first (health reasons, just had blood vessel surgery)?

[cassiepriam]

24. Yes this is possible...

the repugs are worried about themselves right now. Will this be the strategy to save their necks?

"Not our fault. Our dear wonderful leader has a problem. We have to get him help. "

The Sheeple will buy this hook, line and sinker.

[sendero]

23. Naw...

... I don't believe for a second this is a "Rove plant". Why? Because until it hits the mainstream media anyone who wishes to will ignore it as "bullshit gossip".

If it shows up on CBS news, then I have to wonder. But even then, I've just never quite bought into the idea that Rove controls the media with an iron fist. Or anything else.

I think we are already seeing the limits of what propaganda can do. It does have limits you know. Even in Soviet Russia, the people knew they were hearing nothing but lies. The US is not far behind.