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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:39 AM
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Legend - Death curse threatens U.S. presidents elected in years
evenly divisible by twenty.

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Those who look to make sense of eerie coincidences have come up with an explanation to account for this string of deaths: an ancient Indian curse, supposedly administered by Tecumseh himself after suffering defeat at the hands in William Henry Harrison at the Battle of Tippecanoe in 1811. (Tecumseh died in the 1813 Battle of the Thames, again fighting troops led by Harrison.) According to lore, the famed Indian chief cursed the Great White Fathers. No explanation is given for why the chief's curse would only affect one presidency in five, but one cannot, after all, expect the fanciful to cover everything.

Another version attributes the curse to Tenskwatawa (also known as "The Prophet"), a Shawnee medicine man who was half-brother to Tecumseh. The hex was supposedly his revenge for the death of his half-sibling.

"Harrison will die I tell you," the Prophet reportedly said. "And after him, every Great Chief chosen every 20 years thereafter will die. And when each one dies, let everyone remember the death of my people."

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http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.asp
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:41 AM
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1. George sends the rest of us as substitutes.
Because Georgie is so crooked he will even cheat Death.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:43 AM
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2. George wasn't elected is why he's skating on this
prophecy. LOL
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:44 AM
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6. That doesn't bode well for Al Gore, does it?
:wow:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:59 AM
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12. Actually the supposed curse just says the President won't serve
President Gore wasn't allowed to serve.

The curse is a myth anyway.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:43 AM
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Old theory. Something like "they have to be elected in an even year "
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 01:45 AM by applegrove
Did you have to blow dust of the book that came up with that?
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:43 AM
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3. I've always wondered when Tecumseh's curse was "discovered."
When William Henry Harrison died in office, did people say, "Woooo.... Must be Tecumseh's curse"? Or did the "curse" suddenly come to light in, say the mid-1960's?
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:43 AM
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4. Er, our Great Chief wasn't exactly chosen...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:44 AM
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5. He was, just not by us.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:47 AM
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7. Tecumseh is being more creative this time
and I live near where Tecumseh was supposedly killed.

He was actually only wounded, and was buried after living a long life, also near here.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:47 AM
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8. And it would have to be Reagan to break the curse.
I remember being in high school when he was shot. One kid kept saying that Reagan would have to die in office because of the curse, and when Reagan was shot, the kid walked around gloating for a couple of days. "Oh, he's dead, I tell you. He has to die. It's the curse!"

You wonder, though, if Tecumseh had the power to curse future generations of leaders, why he couldn't have just cursed the army and kept them from killing him...
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:49 AM
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9. Oh, stop being so damn rational!
:hi:

You know how that upsets the Woo-Woos!

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:51 AM
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10. And those who use the
'Bwahaha method' of investigating anything.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:52 AM
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11. I can't. I'm a Democrat.
:shrug:
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:24 AM
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16. In a way, that classmate was almost right...
... after Reagan was shot, he was the closest we've had to a Terri Schiavo in office. :)

If it weren't for 3x5 cards, the whole world might have known just how gone he actually was....
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:21 PM
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30. Well, we would have had 12 years of Bush I
if we knew that Reagan was a vegetable.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:57 AM
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20. That wasn't me, but I did something similar
and nobody took me up on it.

I wanted to start a pool with my classmates . . . what month would Reagan die?

Came close, March 1981.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 03:33 PM
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28. Gore is the one who should be worried. n/t
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:16 AM
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13. reagan was so evil he broke the curse, now w is even eviler.
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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:21 AM
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14. .
How is this, if true, any more or less valid a theory than something Pat Robertson or the Pope says?

It's not.

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:34 AM
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17. It's worked, that's why
and over a long period of time.
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aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:42 AM
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25. So did the geocentric earth model
It simply made unusual claims about retrograde motion, etc.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:24 AM
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15. Hmmm.Interesting.We should pay a little more attention to these so
called Native American myths and legends.I am starting to see a pattern.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:34 AM
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18. We need a new one
Every manipulating,sadistic bully bigot,every war criminal,every domninionist theocrat, every abuser of public trust,every sadistic abuser,every lobbyist stealing and purchasing our country from we the people for they the corporate elites,every CEO and Scam artist,every tyrant,every greedy scheming politician shredding the social safety net in the name of self gain and cronyism ,every corporation causing untold environmental damage and pain to people,and manipulating unfairly in the name of profit will die!!
Howz that?
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:35 AM
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19. I forgot
Every rapist,pedophile ,child abuser,and torturer will die too.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:57 AM
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21. If Reagan hadn't beat the curse,
Cheney would be very, very nervous right about now . . .
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:13 AM
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22. So, if this is true... why did Bush survive?
Puh-leeeeeze......

I really gave this theory credence until he escaped alive.

TC
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:35 AM
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23. And the curse claims yet another prez*, moron* is brain dead.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:35 AM
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24. And the curse claims yet another prez*, moron* is brain dead.
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:05 PM
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26. Perhaps the curse is still in effect...
Or is it just a coincidence that the Abramoff/Indian Casino scam may be the death knell for Bush. Maybe he won't literally die in office, just that his term will "die" in an impeachment? :shrug:

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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 03:31 PM
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27. I suggest that the curse still holds...
The curse wasn't on "the great white fathers" but on us.

Roosevelt died - sucks to be us.
Kennedy died - sucks to be us.
Reagan lived - gee thanks.

Bush? We were never even given the few-week reprieve we were granted by Reagan's hospitalization.

Tecumseh. That rat bastard.

;)
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:47 PM
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31. Interesting. nt
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 03:43 PM
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29. I hope Bush lives many years following his term
so he can find out how history will judge him. (Of course that would mean he'd be paying attention, so maybe it wouldn't work out.)
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