Why do Republicans hate giving money to poor people?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

Yet giving money to huge corporations is fine?

I never could understand that about conservatives.

Please somebody explain this?

[aion]

1. Is it unethical to knowingly multiply misery?

Throwing food at a bunch of starving people can certainly multiply misery in a very short amount of time. You'll soon have to contend with many more starving mouths.

Giving/selling them skills and tools is an ethical approach, but one which the far-righties seem to hate. They seem to hate any notion of a 'commonwealth of ideas.'

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. omg...thank you so much...LOL

[Child_Of_Isis]

3. Huge corporations are wealthy,

and wealthy people deserve free money. This is how they think. It is not okay to give free health care to poor babies, but it is okay for the rich folks on the hill (think Cheney) to get it. See how it goes?

[aion]

9. Remember the story of the woman who added coins to expired parking meters?

In many areas, police pension plans are funded by things such as parking violations. There are more examples of this than I care to list. Suffice it to say that Governments take in much more money than many (most?) would presume when looking at their budgets.

So when you pay your traffic violations, remember -- you may be subsidising someone's retirement, and even sending some child to college. These 'hidden' expenditures are hurting us, in my opinion.

[BrklynLiberal]

4. Social DarwinIsm + Puritanism = Eat the poor.

They think that material success in this world is a sign of spiritual goodness, ergo:if you are poor or need help, it means that you are not spritually pure. How ironic that they use Christianity as a keyword since the teachings of Jesus were the exact opposite of this.

The Neocons,of course have no real religious tenets, they just use religion as a tool to get others to follow them. Their goal is merely power and money. If they have to allow a few poor, sick and powerless adults and children die along the way...can you spell collateral damage?
They all feel that they are morally and socially superior so they deserve to survive and those "others" do not.

I personally see no difference whatsoever between them and the Nazis in Germany under Hitler.

[Child_Of_Isis]

10. Like OBL....

"The Neocons,of course have no real religious tenets, they just use religion as a tool to get others to follow them"

[Wordie]

11. I thought the leading neo-cons were primarily Jewish, & highly pro-Israel.

So aren't they also acting from a religious basis? Meaning in both cases religion has intertwined with social darwinism (at least in terms of foreign policy).

[AntiCoup2K4]

12. Much of the PNAC leadership is Jewish, some are dual citizens of US/Israel

I don't know how "religious" any of them are. They obviously don't keep the 10 commandments very well. If these bastards have a religion, it's Leo Strauss and Michael Ledeen, not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

And of course, you also have Chimp, Condi, Cheney, and Rummie who claim to be "Christians", but are only seen entering a church when cameras are rolling.

But neocons over all, in other words, those who support these fascists, range from the religious reich types to materialistic atheists who only worship the Bush tax cut.

[Wordie]

15. ...and yet, to express concerns about this, even in progressive circles

is all too frequently interpreted as "anti-semitism." Not long ago, I made the comment that Israel was a beneficiary of the Iraq war, and that was the response. There are many ISRAELIs who are pro-peace. It is very frustrating to comment on our government's policies, for which we are all responsible, only to get this sort of response.

[BrklynLiberal]

17. The Dominionists, who are very big in these circles, have few Jews among

them. If I recall correctly, the end-times people are also very pro-Israel as they believe that Israel must exist for the end of times to be realized.

I do not think that this disease of self-centered greed at the expense of anyone in the way is limited to one group. It's appeal is non-sectarian.

I believe that the reasons individuals are drawn to this type of political bullying rest more in reasons of personal inadequacy and pathology than philosphical or religious theories and/or beliefs.

[bvar22]

5. When Republicans give money to Corporations,

they are giving it to THEMSELVES.
They also are giving the tax money of the Middle Class and POOR to themselves.
It is a major front of Republican War on the Working Class.
The other major front in this WAR is FREE TRADE.
The 3rd Front is shifting the Tax Burden to the Middle Class.
The Republicans (and Demo Traitors) are WINNING!


The Republican Ownership Society

The FACE of Compassionate Conservatism

[Davis_X_Machina]

6. It's not the 'poor'...

...it's the 'black'.

The poor whites are collateral damage.

You've got IMF/World Bank/OECD studies up the yin-yang on social provision in general, and transfer payments -- giving money to poor people -- in particular, and the universal conclusion is that the more diverse the society, the more likelihood that your money will go to someone of a different color or ethnic group, the less support there is for social provision and transfer payments.

The long and the short of it is that many white people will live in a cardboard box under a bridge and eat sparrows toasted on an old curtain rod if they can be sure that the negro in the next box over doesn't even have a sparrow.

[GeorgeGist]

7. Because the love taking money ...

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[Don1]

8. Blind Patriotism.

They refuse to believe that they are giving to the corporations. For example, if you ask them about gas price hikes, they will tell you that it is the fault of local owners of each little gas station. Plus, it is because of damaged oil refineries, etc...You only get apologies from them in regard to corporations and there is no admittance of corporate complicity. If you show them that Exxon-Mobil had some ridiculous jump in profits this quarter (like 30% or 60%), then they will get angry and start fighting, going on the offensive. They are in denial.

So, I would repose this question. Instead, I think the question should be, how do we bring these people out of denial?

[pitohui]

13. because some of them might be black

i sincerely believe race is at the heart of it

look at the destruction of the public schools, they don't want schools funded because, after all, some black child might get educated & rise out of his "place"

cynical much, yes i am

[Totally Committed]

14. You're kidding, right?

The Republicans are the Party that...

**** Works agains the rights of minorities to vote.

**** Is against women's rights of sovereignty over their own bodies.

**** Is totally against giving two adults the rights and privileges of marriage, just because they are the same sex.

**** Busts up Unions so people can't organize to make a decent wage, and get protection from the corporations sending their jobs overseas, gutting their pension funds, and giving them no benefits.

And you wonder why Republicans hate giving money to poor people?

To them, money = power. And, power = being able to continue thier assault on the rights of those less fortunate (less male, less Christian, less straight, less white, or just "less") than they are.

It's about CONTROL.

It's about GREED.

And, it's about making sure it's THEIR BOOT on the backs of our necks, instead of the other way around.

TC

[aion]

16. Higher Ground

[win_in_06]

18. They give through the Church.

(to the poor) Want some money? Love Jesus.

[barb162]

19. They hate giving their money to anybody. They want to take

their money to the grave

[bluedawg12]

20. They want everyone else to come up the hard way, too

with family connections, and legacy admissions to Ivy league schools, and summers in New England.

Is that so hard to understand? The Repugs only want the money passed around with in their "club." hanh hanh hanh:sarcasm:

[leesa]

21. Because they are greedy. They also have been conned into believing that

when they give welfare to the rich, the get a return on their "investment". So, they aren't real bright either.

[baldguy]

22. People are poor because they've done something wrong.

Either they're stupid or lazy. Or they're sinners. Or they listen to the wrong music or vote for the wrong candidates.

23. They don't have an internal code that tells them

that you should help and have compassion for fellow man. They follow what the ruling society dictates. If you can get away with it, then do it (big business).

It is amazing what humans will do when they close off their hearts and conscience. You should take a look at H20 man's recent blogs on conscience and morality.

[raccoon]

24. I think that they don't have an internal code that tells them

"there but for fortune go I." Or else they've managed to shut it up because they don't want to hear it.

[Czolgosz]

25. To use Pat Robertson as an example, he calls government programs that

benefit poor people (who the Bible commands us to provide for) "forced" charity and he pretends that he doesn't like forced charity because it is a disincentive for "real" charity. That's horseshit, of course.

In truth, that particular type of neo-Christian Republican really doesn't like government programs benefitting the poor because he doesn't want his charity dollars wasted on Jews or atheists or -- God forbid -- Moslems. He wants to use his "charity" dollars as his primary marketing tool to promote his spiteful agenda on how you should lead your life.

Why does Robertson like his "charity" dribbled out like that? Because that way only the people who come begging to his creepy church get any of his "charity" and people who have a lifestyle he disapproves of or a God he doesn't understand are screwed. Why does Robertson ridicule government spending for the poor, the sick, the children, the disabled, and the imprisoned (who are all Jesus' people)? It's obvious: he doesn't want to lose his carrot and stick to whip the poor people into his church. He wants them desperate. He wants them hopeless. He wants to be the one who "saves" them. And he wants their cryptoloyalty to his neo-Christian view on the world in exchange for "saving" them.

That's not "charity" -- it's bribery.

And it's not Christian -- it's totalitarian.

[Julius Civitatus]

26. Social Darwinism

Social Darwinism is the true religion of modern day Republicans. It actually mixes very well with some of the most extreme Calvinist theories adopted so fervently by Xtian fundamentalists in recent years. It's the collusion of the radical anti-tax Chicago school of economics (Grover Norquist, Gingrich) and the ultra-conservative Xtian fundies (Robertson, Falwell, Dobson)

What it basically proclaims is that some people (those who are better, smarter, or superior) deserve the riches they get. God smiles on them, and deserve all that they can get and then some. According to these ideas, the poor are lazy and deserve to be punished for their laziness. NO help or social program should be created; "those people" should learn to pull themselves by the bootstraps and work themselves into riches.

What they don't mention is that their very logic system keeps favoring the rich and their families just because they are rich, and punishing the poor ad infinitum, thus condemning them to eternal poverty no matter how hard they try to work their way into a decent life. It's a modern day form of aristocratic classicism that is turning America into a virtual third-world country, one where a small minority holds immense wealth, while the rest are left to fend for themselves on minimum-wage MacJobs and miserable slums, without social services, health, education, safety net, or even the most basic needs covered.

This is the triumph of the heartless "trickle down" hogwash theories adopted by Republicans since the early 1980s.

[belle]

28. Of course, whenever THEY lose they scream and whine how "unfair" it is.

It's really brilliant to watch how the hardass social darwinists suddenly turn into mewling toddlers when the fickle finger of fate points at them.

"But, but I'm not like other people! I can't stand pain, it HURTS me!"

[butterfly77]

27. Because...

They are some evil,lying thieving,digusting, dirty ,dirty,dirty hateful bastards.

[HughBeaumont]

29. "Bootstraps."

"Horatio Alger."

"No such thing as luck."

"The whole 'Connections' argument is simply a libtard class warfare cop-out."

"Most of the wealthy, and I mean 98% of them, EARNED their money through hard work and sacrifice."

"You want money bad enough, you will do whatever it takes to get it."

"If you're poor, it's because you're lazy, stupid or disabled."

"Bottom line, if you're poor - IT'S YOUR OWN DAMNED FAULT!"

"Not giving corporations what they want seventy googolplex-fold is the same thing as comm'nism!"

Seriously, do freeptards acutally believe the same asshole bullshit they flatulate out of their mouths on this issue? Do they think they're rich, or will be that way one day?

[fencesitter]

30. No return on investment.

[JohnWxy]

31. THE REPUBLICAN PRAYER: SHOW ME THE MONEY!

Poor people don't give millions in campaign contributions and can't offer seven figure sinecures for the politicians retirement years.
Remember the Republican Prayer: "Show me the Money!"

[Catchawave]

32. ...and God Created Off Shore banking too.....

otherwise rich conservatives wouldn't be hiding their tax breaks, which are "designed" to stimulate the economy :shrug:

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

33. Because poor people will "squander" it on food, shelter, and

other such frivolous items.

Corporations will be sure to give back a whole BUNCH in campaign donations to the GOP.