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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:45 PM
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What do the Freepers think of Ike and Teddy?
Following up on this FDR thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2112316

I want to know how the Freepers view the only decent figures in their party. I know with Lincoln the hard-core Neo-Confederates despise him, but what about Teddy Roosevelt or Eisenhower? They angered their party's right flank often (with TR it was Henry Cabot Lodge, who believe it or not hailed from Massachusetts!) and with Eisenhower it was his refusal to overturn the New Deal and to turn the clock back to 1932. People like Senator Robert Taft were not pleased with his concept of "Modern Republicanism." Considering the fact that Moderate and Progressive Republican Presidents favored National Parks, trust-busting, fair trade, friendlier relations with labor, and preservation of Social Security (in Ike's case) why aren't more Freepers outspoken about these two "Socialists" The only two good Republican Presidents besides Lincoln would never identify with Bush today.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:27 PM
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1. We can't really care what the freepers think....
far as I'm concerned they should love Hoover and Nixon...neither who were as horrible and lame as Bush, but are most similar to our current piece of shit of a President.

Eisenhower also didn't like another hero of the freepers; Joe McCarthy, a Republican asshole. In fact, Eisenhower didn't even like Nixon, his Vice President, enough to campaign for him during the 1960 election against Kennedy. If Eisenhower would have politicked for Nixon, Kennedy might have lost that very close election.

Hell, I even Like Ike!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:33 PM
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2. Ike even ruined a big plank in Nixon's campaign
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 11:33 PM by tritsofme
Since Nixon was running on his experience, and having made big decisions as VPOTUS over the last 8 years.

The press asked Ike what big decisions Nixon was involved in, and he couldn't name any.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:34 PM
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3. now, that's
Funny! :rofl:
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:37 PM
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5. His quote was:
"If you give me a week I might think of one."

Ike never really got along with Nixon all that well.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:21 AM
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6. Ike never liked Nixon
http://www.historywise.com/KoTrain/Courses/DE/DE_Campaigns_and_Elections.htm

....(

the 1952 race)

Nixon's secret slush fund infuriated Eisenhower, who had never liked Nixon from the start. The scandal involved charges that as a senator, Nixon had accepted $18,000 from his supporters for personal expenses. These revelations hurt Ike's promise to have a Republican administration that would "be as clean as a hound's tooth." He was ready to dump Nixon but refused to be rushed. Ike's hesitancy gave Nixon the opportunity to go on national television to appeal to the American people. In a masterful televised performance, Nixon denied that he had done anything wrong, and vowed not to give up his daughter's little dog, Checkers, also a gift to the family, no matter what the consequence. The public responded to the "Checkers Speech" with at outpouring of emotional support, and Ike reluctantly kept his "boy" (as he now referred to Nixon) on the ticket.

....

The Campaign and Election of 1956

The election in 1956 turned on the question of Eisenhower's health and his foreign policy over the last four years. One year before the election, it seemed that it would be an easy victory for Eisenhower no matter who the Democrats ran. Ike was an enormously popular president. He had kept his promise to end the fighting in Korea (by means of a cease-fire rather than an armistice), and the economy was booming. Then, on September 23, 1955, after playing eighteen holes of golf, Eisenhower suffered a severe heart attack. His recovery lasted for three months, during which time his chief of staff, Sherman Adams, ran executive affairs, and Richard Nixon acted correctly and circumspectly to assist him. Fully recovered by January of 1956, Eisenhower announced that he would run again. Although Ike's popularity polls were high (77 percent), his health and Richard Nixon (who was next in line for the presidency should Ike die in office) became political hot potatoes.

Although Ike supported Nixon publicly, he privately disliked him. When asked if Nixon would be on the ticket, Ike refused to endorse him, saying that the nominating convention would have to decide. He told Nixon that he should consider stepping down for a cabinet post. Nixon campaigned vigorously, however, to convince the party regulars to keep him on the ticket. As a result, Nixon survived as Ike's running mate when the nominating convention ballots were tallied.

....
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:35 PM
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4. Freepers think???
:shrug:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:27 AM
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7. Stop it now!
we were having fun pretending. Doh! :eyes:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 05:42 AM
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8. They think "Ike and Teddy? I really liked their version of Proud Mary"
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 05:42 AM by ET Awful
:evilgrin: Freepers aren't too bright :)
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